MrObsessive Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 Thanks for the heads up! I'm really looking forward to this model! At $260 though------I better start saving my pennies!
MrObsessive Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 Looking further at the specs of the kit.............this will be one of the most detailed 1/12 kits I've seen with this much detail!! At the rate I build, it'll take me two years to finish! I had to laugh at this one line................."Locking steel clips on real steel cable ensure that front bodywork stays closed at high speed." Is this thing gonna run too?? I better go on a crash diet so I can give 'er a whirl!
purplehornies Posted March 24, 2009 Author Posted March 24, 2009 $260 .. !! PE is extra I expect The sheet does say thet there is some photo etch in the kit for fuel tank straps and grille.
MrObsessive Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 For those of you interested, here is a link to a bunch of pics showing the GT40 test shot at a Japanese (I think) show. These were DIFFICULT to get for some reason off that site some time back...................but I struggled with it and got all of them downloaded for all to see on Photobucket if you'd like. I wanted to put them on Fotki, but they're having a SEVERE case of indigestion lately and pics aren't uploading for some reason there-----at least on my end. Enjoy!
Zoom Zoom Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 I applaud Trumpeter for taking the risk. We'll get to see some nice models from this kit. I know I'll get flamed for the following critique, but the car looks like a lowrider on the boxcover I can't say I'd never buy one at the price, but it would have to be the '68 or '69 LeMans winner in Gulf livery before I'm even mildly interested in a project like this. Wonder if other variants are possible, if this kit is a commercial success?
MrObsessive Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 You're reading my mind Bob, as that '68-9 car is the one I really want! I may spring for this one as who knows with the world economy how much longer companies like this will be able to produce models of this caliber. 260 bucks though is some serious dough for a kit-------------but considering Model Factory Hiro kits go for as much and in 1/24 scale, this is looking like a bargain!
CAL Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) Yeah, I am all in. Looks like such a cool kit. Not my most favorite subject. They should have done a Porsche, but i'll take it. Edited March 24, 2009 by CAL
crispy Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 I wanted one. The price makes me not want one though. I was expecting at least $175 or so for the kit, not nearly $260. A great piece of subject matter for sure and the sheer size of it will make it a kit worthy of details. I'd really love to support this kit, but with three kids and college looming I'll have to save my play money for quite sometime. Chris
crispy Posted March 24, 2009 Posted March 24, 2009 For those of you interested, here is a link to a bunch of pics showing the GT40 test shot at a Japanese (I think) show. These were DIFFICULT to get for some reason off that site some time back...................but I struggled with it and got all of them downloaded for all to see on Photobucket if you'd like. I wanted to put them on Fotki, but they're having a SEVERE case of indigestion lately and pics aren't uploading for some reason there-----at least on my end. Enjoy! Bill, tried to view your photo's but was told it was a private album. Any way you can free that up?? Here is the first box cover I saved. Looks like one of the images is mirrored.
MrObsessive Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) Sorry about that Chris! I've had the account for awhile now and never knew that it was private viewing only! Unlike Fotki, I guess the private viewing is by default. You should be able to see them now with no problem. Click here for the link.............. Edited March 25, 2009 by MrObsessive
RJWood Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Modelexpress dot net has them on a special pre-order price (for a limited time) of $189.00 due out July
Pete J. Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Sorry about that Chris! I've had the account for awhile now and never knew that it was private viewing only! Unlike Fotki, I guess the private viewing is by default. You should be able to see them now with no problem. Click here for the link.............. Thanks for the photos. Be interesting to see what they have besides the plastic. The plastic looks pretty good, but there is a lot that can be corrected. Getting a good model looks to be in the cards. Getting a great model looks like a lot of work at this point. Still going to give it a go though. Might need to buy two or three of them.
Plasticfanatic Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) Well for over $200(plus shipping) I think I will pass on this one, I was to looking forward for this kit, even if it was to convert to the 1969 Gulf version as other fellow modelers have stated, BUT after knowing what the "sugested" retail price would be I just said NO THANKS!! Is a shame, Trumpeter was having a very good line of kits when they started in the plastic kit scene, I have about 12 of their military kits in 1/35 and airplane kits from 1/32 to 1/24, they offer great details on great subjects,I know they are not perfect and some times dificult to build but again you had a LOT of detail at a very good price. I remember how I was dreaming in having the 1/35 scale Leupold railway gun that a company was manufacturing at the time, it was a resin,metal,photoecht kit....cost about $450-$500 it was just to much for me!!! Then Trumpeter lauched it magnificent plastic kit of this WWII gun for the incredible price of $135, the same with big scale airplane kits. Then something began to happen to their price range, every time they made a new model it came with a hefty price tag, like their fire truck kit...$95.00, King tiger tank $400-$500 and now the GT40 in about $260, I think they are losing scope of the economic times,tastes(a lot of us would have like the 1969 GT40 version) and actual range of "hobby money" in most of us average collectors. If this kit was offered at about $150-$160 I could considered for my workbench, but at the actual price they could have included the 1969 engine cover,tires and wheels,decals and other minor details to be able to do two types of GT40.....THEY HAVE DONE IT BEFORE!!!! Oh, well...I will comtempt my desire with my Fujimi GT40 1969....in Gulf colors of course!!! Fred Edited March 25, 2009 by Plasticfanatic
crispy Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 As I mentioned earlier and at other sites I think the on-line dealers will have some more or better affordable pricing. Quite honestly I just want one. I may not build it, but I'll certainly enjoy groking it every month. Bill, thanks for the pictures. I like what I see but will save my dribble until we can get a view of everything. The positive thing is that at least there is a test shot so we know the tooling is there. I don't suspect it will be this year though. I could be wrong. Chris
MrObsessive Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 If this kit was offered at about $150-$160 I could considered for my workbench, but at the actual price they could have included the 1969 engine cover,tires and wheels,decals and other minor details to be able to do two types of GT40.....THEY HAVE DONE IT BEFORE!!!! Oh, well...I will comtempt my desire with my Fujimi GT40 1969....in Gulf colors of course!!! Fred Actually, the front clip is a bit different also on the '68-'69 car. The front and rear fenders on those seem to be "swoopier" on the sides than the Mark II. That's one of the things that held me back from buiding the Fujimi car. The fenders aren't bulky enough for the Fujimi Gulf cars to my view. I've got a Le Mans Miniature resin though which looks like it has the correct fender shapes but the resin is/was a real pain to deal with when I tried building it years ago. The resin has a "memory" which made me give up on it until I found a way to get around it. ..................but finishing it is for another time!
torinobradley Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 I think there is a different motor in the 66 and the 69 also. By 68, the cars were limited to 5.0L displacement. Earlier cars had a 427. But then again, this would only be a factor if you were doing a full detail GT40. HRM has both the full rear end detail conversion for the Fujimi as well as a webber Ford 289. To make a long story short, lots of research is your best friend.
Plasticfanatic Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) Actually, the front clip is a bit different also on the '68-'69 car. The front and rear fenders on those seem to be "swoopier" on the sides than the Mark II. That's one of the things that held me back from buiding the Fujimi car. The fenders aren't bulky enough for the Fujimi Gulf cars to my view. I've got a Le Mans Miniature resin though which looks like it has the correct fender shapes but the resin is/was a real pain to deal with when I tried building it years ago. The resin has a "memory" which made me give up on it until I found a way to get around it. ..................but finishing it is for another time! Yes I know about you mean!! Fujimi did an "revision" of their first offering GT40 and practicaly did a reissue with a new engine cover(boot) that in my personal opinion is quite good in shape and size to acomodate the wider tires, for me are the front fenders flares that need a little work/modifications but again is a good base to make corrections to the body and not that dificult or extensive modification...minimal I should say. For resin models I don't even try to fix the resin, as you well said is a real pain in most of the cases, if I have to make body modifiactions I usualy do "putty lamination' using styrene and putty for the work, is easier to sand,shape,file and give scale apperance for the body/panels of the car......for this I only use two type of brands...Tamiya A+B putty(yellow one) and Miliputty "fine". Fred Edited March 25, 2009 by Plasticfanatic
Plasticfanatic Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 I think there is a different motor in the 66 and the 69 also. By 68, the cars were limited to 5.0L displacement. Earlier cars had a 427. But then again, this would only be a factor if you were doing a full detail GT40. HRM has both the full rear end detail conversion for the Fujimi as well as a webber Ford 289. To make a long story short, lots of research is your best friend. Yes even the set-up of the motor is diferent, one notable detail are the Webbers as you well said, but this is what I mean, a couple of parts more and you would have a 2 in one kit(even if you have to modified the front fenders a little) and then I won't mind to pay the asking price of over $200 since I will have two options to build. I am pretty sure they made parts and molds for the 1969 conversion GT40, if the first issue sell well we will be seeing an 1969 GT40 with minimal cost to Trumpeter since they already made the extra parts!!!....my humble opinion of course!!
Jon Cole Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 This model puzzles me. It has been mentioned on some message boards in the last few years that Trumpeter didn't do as well as they hoped for with the sales of their 1/25 scale car offerings, in part due to their complexity (in spite of many modelers asking for just that), but also for some inaccuracies in those offerings, plus the price of those kits. So the general concensus was, they (Trumpeter) must have thrown in the towel on ever pleasing (and therefore sales to) the adult model car market. Now, instead of making more "typical" and less complex model cars, they seem to go in the opposite direction, with this "Mega-Kit". I love Ford GT40's (in fact, I have one on my bench now), but like many other posts here, I just cannot justify the price of the 1/12 kit. I am NOT saying it's not worth it, I am saying it's out of my price league. And I think the price will hurt sales. So, if... that's the case, won't that just lead Trumpeter back to the same conclusion as they (apparently) had with their 1/25 scale line of kits? -Jon-
Pete J. Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Yes even the set-up of the motor is diferent, one notable detail are the Webbers as you well said, but this is what I mean, a couple of parts more and you would have a 2 in one kit(even if you have to modified the front fenders a little) and then I won't mind to pay the asking price of over $200 since I will have two options to build. I am pretty sure they made parts and molds for the 1969 conversion GT40, if the first issue sell well we will be seeing an 1969 GT40 with minimal cost to Trumpeter since they already made the extra parts!!!....my humble opinion of course!! Research is definitely called for when doing this car. The Mk Is were all smaller engines, mostly 289's with six 2 barrels. There is also the Mark IIA and B. The A's all ran a 427 with a single four barrel and didn't have a roll cage visible. They also didn't have a "cover" over the top of the door to keep the top of the door from lifting at speed. After Sebring(the B model), they also had the dog ear of the passenger side door cut off and bolted in place. That was to give the driver and exit if the car was inverted. Tons of other details depending on the team.
crispy Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Jon, Bob(zoom-zoom) touched on this subject over on another site. I agree with his statement about this being a much broader appeal globally. I think the 25 scale stuff was aimed more at the American market than the global market. Le Mans is a huge race with lots of rich history and everyone watches it. This is certainly a significant car of the era and I can see it being accepted globally. I would think that the prices will be all over the board on this kit depending on where you purchase it. As someone already mentioned the kit is on pre-sale with a lower price. Maybe Hobby Lobby will get them in too, and we can see 40% off coupons, doubtful though. Anyway, I like the appeal of the kit. I'm skeptical of the price but I would certainly pick one up for under $200. Chris
Plasticfanatic Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) Research is definitely called for when doing this car. The Mk Is were all smaller engines, mostly 289's with six 2 barrels. There is also the Mark IIA and B. The A's all ran a 427 with a single four barrel and didn't have a roll cage visible. They also didn't have a "cover" over the top of the door to keep the top of the door from lifting at speed. After Sebring(the B model), they also had the dog ear of the passenger side door cut off and bolted in place. That was to give the driver and exit if the car was inverted. Tons of other details depending on the team. Yes research is everything when doing a replica of a specific car and I also know that no race car is the same in every detail, there are diferent versions for diferent drivers needs,race tracks,countrys where the race is made (the yellow lights in the cars at Le manns come to mind) engines,markings, race numbers,interior colors,engine set up,etc,etc. The details you mention can be duplicated very easy or scrachtbuilt by the modeler, I have been building scale models for more than 26 years and still haven't come by a perfectly accurate model of any subject, theres always room for improvement and detailing, that's what fun about this hobby. But we usualy need a base model to start, and that is my point, as other fellow modelers have stated, Trumpeter track record in automotive subjects is not that great or cheap, now we have this new mega detailed big model, let see when it comes out how good and accurate it realy is, by the photos of the model test shot posted by our fellow member, there are a LOT of things that can be improved or remade, again my humble opinion!! Anyway I wish the best for this new offering in the big scale historic race car modeling area, I know that no matter what is the final quality of the GT40, magnificent replica models would be created by the master craftsmans of the model car modeling community, some of them right here at the forum. Fred Edited March 25, 2009 by Plasticfanatic
RodBurNeR Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 I wonder if there will be 100 of these in "under glass" section like every other new release?
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