Mobius Models' new 1965 Dodge Coronet Two Door Sedan A990 and "Street Sleeper" - first look inside these boxes...

[Brutalform]

Started my A990 today. I already have a set of Fireball Modelworks steel rims all set up with resin wheel backs, to replace those ugly, supplied rims. Kinda disappointed that the rear, I suppose it’s a tiny 8 3/4, carried over from the Plymouth cars. That thing would break with a slant six engine in front of it. I took the rear from the Hemi Dart kit, and grafted it onto the Moebius set up. Other than that, it should be a nice build. 

[Scott Eriksen]

32 minutes ago, Brutalform said:

Started my A990 today. I already have a set of Fireball Modelworks steel rims all set up with resin wheel backs, to replace those ugly, supplied rims. Kinda disappointed that the rear, I suppose it’s a tiny 8 3/4, carried over from the Plymouth cars. That thing would break with a slant six engine in front of it. I took the rear from the Hemi Dart kit, and grafted it onto the Moebius set up. Other than that, it should be a nice build. 

Will you guys quit whining about those Mopar rims,,they're not that bad jesssus! .The 8-3/4 is a pretty stout rear,,especially with a 489 case 10 spline pinion ,,, ask me how I know

Edited October 1, 2024 by Scott Eriksen

[Brutalform]

10 minutes ago, Scott Eriksen said:

Will you guys quit whining about those Mopar rims,,they're not that bad jesssus! .The 8-3/4 is a pretty stout rear,,especially with a 489 case 10 spline pinion ,,, ask me how I know

The rims are horrible in my opinion. And the “real” 8 3/4 rear is one of the strongest, just as a Ford 9” or 12 bolt is, but the kit rear is tiny. Kit rear on right, and the rear I stole from the Dart Hemi kit grafted onto the Mobius is on the left. 

[Scott Eriksen]

2 minutes ago, Brutalform said:

The rims are horrible in my opinion. And the “real” 8 3/4 rear is one of the strongest, just as a Ford 9” or 12 bolt is, but the kit rear is tiny. Kit rear on right, and the rear I stole from the Dart Hemi kit grafted onto the Mobius is on the left. 

Really not that bad compared to a pic of the actual 

[Scott Eriksen]

The Dana 60 wasn't available in B bodies in 1965

[Brutalform]

On my build it is available. 

[Scott Eriksen]

I don't like the "open" mold of the kit rear myself,,,I filled mine in with filler and bulked up the center a bit ,,same with the leaf springs ,,,,I compared the rear to an AMT 8-3/4 ,,,not much difference

[Scott Eriksen]

1 minute ago, Brutalform said:

On my build it is available. 

You can build it anyway you want I'm just saying it wasn't an option in B bodies in 65

[Brutalform]

1 minute ago, Scott Eriksen said:

You can build it anyway you want I'm just saying it wasn't an option in B bodies in 65

Not sure if it was available, but people were definitely upgrading them then. I’ve seen many at shows, and in auction sites, all used in Hemi cars. 

[Scott Eriksen]

4 minutes ago, Brutalform said:

Not sure if it was available, but people were definitely upgrading them then. I’ve seen many at shows, and in auction sites, all used in Hemi cars. 

It wasn't available,,,100% positive on that . They were not upgrading in 65 ......... when the Dana starting becoming available in 66 I'm sure some were swapped out

Edited October 1, 2024 by Scott Eriksen

[Scott Eriksen]

And the Hurst built 68 Hemi L023 and B029 automatics had 8-3/4's

[Brutalform]

Thanks for the lesson. 

[1972coronet]

2 hours ago, Brutalform said:

That thing would break with a slant six engine in front of it.

You're thinking of the 7.25" rear (hahaha) . 

But, I do agree that the kit's 8.75 rear is undersized. 

[tim boyd]

The conversion to a Dana rear end was one of the first steps when I built my kitbashed circa 1969 Indy Nats Belvedere A990 a few years ago...btw the AWB Coronet kit does include the Dana rear end....TB .

Edited October 2, 2024 by tim boyd

[Brutalform]

I’ve been working on my kit, and a word of the wise to everyone building this one. CHECK THE GLASS, before doing any priming or painting. The front windshield is a nice fit, but not so much for the rear. It seems the rear glass has a slight bulge in the top center, almost like a point in the middle. I hope I can get this to fit in the roof frame better than this. I can’t see how any sanding on the frame or the glass can correct this?

[Brutalform]

7 hours ago, tim boyd said:

The conversion to a Dana rear end was one of the first steps when I built my kitbashed circa 1969 Indy Nats Belvedere A990 a few years ago...btw the AWB Coronet kit does include the Dana rear end....TB .

I remember when you first built this car, IIRC, you demonstrated how you did the rear end change before you even cut the kit supplied rear from the tree. I followed your advice, and I thank you. I used the 8.75 rear from the Hemi Dart, and I had the Dana left over. Gotta love extra parts in the kits!

[Brutalform]

I think the only way to remedy this rear glass, is to get some clear plastic and make a template, and install it from the inside. Got it seated all the way around except for the top part.

Edited October 2, 2024 by Brutalform

[slusher]

What I don’t understand is why all sleepers and bare bone cars except the engines have bucket seats. I would love to see more bench seats or the option with both seats!

[maxwell48098]

The use of bucket seats for these vehicles was meant to lower the vehicle weight for drag racing.  Cars that didn't have bucket seats as an option used the bucket seats out of the manufacturers' compact truck line, which are smaller and lighter than comparable car bucket seats.  Most also used aluminum brackets to attach them to the floor pans instead of traditional steel seat adjusters, again as a way to cut weight.  Keep in mind that each race car usually had the same driver, so having the seat mounting bracket bolted directly to the floor in the correct driving position for that specific driver.

 

A.J.

[Mark C.]

That’s fine for race cars, but my impression of the kit with the blue car on the box is that it is supposed to represent a street car that the average Joe could order from the dealer without some agreement that it would be used in competition… i.e. not a car that only high profile racers could get.  That car would have a standard bench seat mounted on an adjustable steel seat track (and standard door panels, seat upholstery, etc.).

I suspect the only reason that Moebius didn’t include this detail is budgetary in nature.  IMHO, they figured that they got it close enough while staying within their budget, and that most people either wouldn’t notice, wouldn’t care, or would still buy the kit despite the shortcomings.  Smart business, IMHO, though I still wish they had tooled up a correct baseline interior for it.  The difference for me is small, like the difference between buying 1 kit or 2, but I think most won’t care.

[TonyK]

Odd that I don't see these kits listed on the Moebius website.

[drodg]

On 10/5/2024 at 11:52 AM, TonyK said:

Odd that I don't see these kits listed on the Moebius website.

I agree

[Brutalform]

On 10/1/2024 at 8:57 PM, 1972coronet said:

You're thinking of the 7.25" rear (hahaha) . 

But, I do agree that the kit's 8.75 rear is undersized. 

A 7.25 rear in 1:25 scale would probably be larger than the kit supplied rear. 

[Ragtop Man]

Bought a huge bag of Lindy '64 Sedan scraps at a show probably 15-20 years ago. - have several front bench seats and plenty of interior bits. 

Kinda like the idea of the bench and pushbutton granny T-Flite. 

Random idea for 1:1 consideration - a F.A.S.T. 'exhibition' class for the cars ruled out by the somewhat arbitrary designations of 'factory' (vs. aftermarket) build that rules out things like Shelby GTs, A990s, etc. 

J/S