Greg Myers Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 So many kits have such great detail inside engines that gets covered up during final assembly. Other areas like the details inside brake drums also gets covered up.Does anyone use this detail in their builds? Do you ever add details knowing full well that no one will ever see it once the model is finished?
2lapsdown Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 I know what you're talking about. A good example is the blower rotors in the Garlits Swamp Rat kit. I have detail painted parts that will never be seen. I guess it helps me to know how the real car looked even though I've never seen it in person. I guess it's also a skill building exercise. I'd rather kits have to much detail than not enough. John
Foxer Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 The engine parts I just save ... never know when I'll need some parts scattered around. It does make me wonder when seeing these why they would do this when it will be buried. I'm building a van using the A-Team one, but all the old AMT Chevy vans are the same ... there lots of engine bay detail in there and it's all under the interior engine cover, not to mention the molded closed hood. This really surprised as it a quite nice engine for it's old age. I'm just leaving off the top engine details that won't be seen from underneath. No sense wasting them!
Chuck Most Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 I love how some kits have beautifully detailed, molded in valvetrain detail on the heads... and you're not going to see it when the engine is done. Or the old AMT engine packs, with the cool cranks and cams that just get buried in the block. Stuff like that I usually save for an application where the extra detail can be seen instead of hidden.
slantasaurus Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 A recient example is the rear seat brace on the Revell 68/69 Charger and 69 Daytona kits. Unless you leave out the rear seat you'll never know it's there. I just kinda scratched my head when I saw that the first time.
Guest Johnny Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 I love how some kits have beautifully detailed, molded in valvetrain detail on the heads... and you're not going to see it when the engine is done. Or the old AMT engine packs, with the cool cranks and cams that just get buried in the block. Stuff like that I usually save for an application where the extra detail can be seen instead of hidden. Makes for some great shelf or work bench material in a diorama though!
ra7c7er Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 In defense of the manufactures if they don't put that detail in we hammer them for lack of detail in their kits. If you don't want to use the parts you won't see save them for a dio. I don't know how many cams and crank shafts I have waiting for my shop dio.
Greg Myers Posted February 15, 2011 Author Posted February 15, 2011 In defense of the manufactures if they don't put that detail in we hammer them for lack of detail in their kits. If you don't want to use the parts you won't see save them for a dio. I don't know how many cams and crank shafts I have waiting for my shop dio. I don't think anyone has mentioned anything against the manufactures.I thought this was just a discussion about the details, there uses and what kits have these great details.
samdiego Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 (edited) It's a way of life if you do model airplanes. Tons of detail throughout, but in the end, only fractions of it can be seen through the windows. If I know that's what the end result will be, I'll save the stuff for future projects. Case in point. This thing is chock full of detail, from the cockpit, which is very hard to see, to the bombardier and gunner's stations in the rear that I probably will never see again. And I really didn't realize it until it was all put together. Edited February 15, 2011 by samdiego
ra7c7er Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 I don't think anyone has mentioned anything against the manufactures.I thought this was just a discussion about the details, there uses and what kits have these great details. Nobody did say anything against them. Motives for over detailing were questioned that is where my comment came from. I like the extra bits. I wish more kits had more extra parts or were over detailed.
oldscool Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 It's a way of life if you do model airplanes. Tons of detail throughout, but in the end, only fractions of it can be seen through the windows. If I know that's what the end result will be, I'll save the stuff for future projects. Case in point. This thing is chock full of detail, from the cockpit, which is very hard to see, to the bombardier and gunner's stations in the rear that I probably will never see again. And I really didn't realize it until it was all put together. I built that kit years ago and it does have some great interior detail. All of the Monogram bombers were that way. Nice job. grumpy gus
samdiego Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 (edited) I built that kit years ago and it does have some great interior detail. All of the Monogram bombers were that way. Nice job. grumpy gus Thanks, that's an Accurate Miniatures 1/48 that I modified to resemble one of the Doolittle Raiders. I think the Air and Armor guys just demand that kind of detail even if it is hidden forever. Of course, they are about double the cost of the standard 1/24 car kit. Edited February 15, 2011 by samdiego
highway Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 I built that kit years ago and it does have some great interior detail. All of the Monogram bombers were that way. Nice job. grumpy gus Thanks, that's an Accurate Miniatures 1/48 that I modified to resemble one of the Doolittle Raiders. I think the Air and Armor guys just demand that kind of detail even if it is hidden forever. Of course, they are about double the cost of the standard 1/24 car kit. No matter the manufacturer of the kit, I have to agree about the Monogram bombers. I recently bought the B-17 and was going to try my hand at super detailing a plane, and found the detailing was already nicely done to start with, but most is buried after assembly. As for the auto world, I've sometimes wondered about all the hidden detail and scratched my head, especially with AMT and the previously mentioned molded in valve train and such. Of course, most of the head scratching was in my younger years and before I started using my imagination for building! One case in point where I'm thankful AMT added that usually hidden valve train detail is the 1/16 scale 57 Corvette. It's missing a couple small engine parts and is a built up to restore, and the imagination started running wild and since it does have the nicely molded valve train, the choice was simple, built it as if it is in the process of getting the top end freshened up. That way, the small parts I'm missing would be noticed or needed, and I can still put the kit to good use.
diymirage Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 when i get a kit that has the extra detail (for instance the aforementioned heads with the rockers detail) i like to replace that parts with a more generic version and save (hoard is more like it) it for dio or in process build where i can actually show the detail
jbwelda Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 those engines with detailed valve train, crankshafts with connecting rods and pistons you sometimes find are made to be used in dioramas, with motors up on work stands, usually issued in some random kit (seems to me like 50 ford pickup?) and all that. or maybe halfway taken apart motors within engine compartments. i always thought i pretty neat that manufacturers did that occasionally, even though typically it was covered up in my builds.
samdiego Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 When I was a kid all that hidden detail also taught me a bit about what went on inside the motor and such.
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