Patrick2005 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 well just as the title implies, what kit has the best quality SOHC?
David Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) http://www.modelcars...es&fromsearch=1 Try mr68gts answer about halfway down the first page. David Edited January 3, 2012 by David
fumi Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) I think Ross Gibson's 427 SOHC is quite nice, but the valve covers are missing the "427 SOHC" scripts on the ones I have. Of all kit Cammer valve covers I have seen only the Johan ones are accurate. Those from AMT are way off. Edited January 3, 2012 by fumi
Rob Hall Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 I've used the one in the AMT '66 Galaxie a couple times. Never saw one in a Johan kit.
MikeMc Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 I've used the one in the AMT '66 Galaxie a couple times. Never saw one in a Johan kit. I gotta agree........lotsa good parts in the 66
Guest Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 The cammer in the AMT '33 Willys is one of ,if not the best looking cammers around IMO.
Erik Smith Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 I have looked at the RG 427 but didn't think it looked any better than the AMT Willys - I am no expert though. Out of curiosity - and never having built the particular kit - does the Model King Kenz and Leslie Cougar have a 427 sohc? Couldn't quite tell from the box I was looking at today at the LHS.
RancheroSteve Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 If you're looking for a drag racing, blown SOHC, the one in the '33 Willys isn't half bad.
fumi Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 The shape of the AMT Cammer's valve covers doesn't look right; it is either too tall or not wide enough. It could have been the ribbings that make it looks off, as compared to this public domain photo of the Cammer found in Wikipedia: Dray City Casting used to make a recast of the Johan Cammer valve covers, which looks right. The Ross Gibson ones appear to have the correct dimension and the right ribbing width, but the blue oval on my examples is very faint and the "427 SOHC" script is missing. However, with the blue oval removed and the ribbings rescribed it represents an early version pretty well.
Rob Hall Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 The valve covers on the engine in the Willys look narrow..the ones in the '66 Galaxie cammer are wider IIRC. Which Johan kit had a 427 SOHC? The drag version of the Comet and Maverick and the Torino stock car had Boss 429s IIRC.
Guest Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 The valve covers on the engine in the Willys look narrow..the ones in the '66 Galaxie cammer are wider IIRC. Which Johan kit had a 427 SOHC? The drag version of the Comet and Maverick and the Torino stock car had Boss 429s IIRC. I'm wondering that too Rob. I know for a fact that the Comet and Maverick had 429 Boss engines. I don't think the Torino stock car would have a cammer since the cammer wasn't allowed in stock car racing.
fumi Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Johan Maverick Pro Stock Grabber has the Cammer valve covers.
george 53 Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 I have Eddie Schartmann's Maverick Pro stock, it has a Boss 429. Could you show us what the 427 covers look like? I've never seen any either.
larrygre Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Right on the Jo-Han Maverick. The original kit with Dyno Don's markings had the cammer only, not the 429 option. The later "generic" kit had both engine options.
larrygre Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 The SOHaCk motor in the AMT '33 WIllys is likely the best example of the engine yet kitted, except for the cam covers - and I have yet to see a set of 1/25 scale cam covers for that engine that get it right.
Erik Smith Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Looking at pictures of the RG 427 - it looks like the distributor is located a little to far to the driver's side of the block? Also, the Ford emblem on the cover looks small and, as stated above, no "427 SOHC"? It also appears the AMT valve covers have the Ford emblem too large and they do appear to be on the small side. My 66 Fairlane had the SOHC robbed before i bought it, so... Anybody have pictures of the Johan valve covers?
Chuck Most Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Larry's right- there really aren't any 100% dead-on Cammer cam covers, though the '33 Willys ones are about the best avaiable in an easily-found form. The big issue with those is the 'ribs' along the bottom of the cam covers are a bit too pronounced, more closely resembling a surfacing Loch Ness Monster than the actual cam cover's bumps.
fumi Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) Johan's Cammer valve covers, as casted by Drag City Casting: Edited January 4, 2012 by fumi
Chuck Most Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Those are a LOT closer to the 1:1 than most- http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/172/8/f/Ford_427_SOHC___Cammer___by_DetroitDemigod.jpg
dodgefever Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 All the AMT cam covers I've got are hopeless, being too long, too narrow and too tall. The Johan ones also look wrong to me. They appear to be symmetrical, where the 1:1 covers are a left and a right, with the plug holes offset. I hacked up the ones from the '33 Willys, making them shorter and wider. They look 100% better proportion wise, but I lost some of the engraving and haven't got around to finessing them yet. I'll dig them out and post a photo if anyone's interested.
Cato Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Sounds like a GOLDEN opp for the resin casters-where are you guys??
Patrick2005 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Posted January 5, 2012 I just got an amt 68 gt500 cause I read it had an option for a sohc. if I was wrong oh well I can always look for a willys
dodgefever Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Couldn't find the covers, but I came across a work in progress photo in my Photobucket album. I hadn't done the plug holes yet, but they had been reshaped. Shown with a stock AMT cover, which is from either the '66 Galaxie or the '68 Shelby Mustang.
raisin27 Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 The Johan CAMMER from the pro stock Maverick kits is one of my favorites, though it too has a few issues. The oil pan doesnt extend forward enough as it stops before the front timing chain cover is probably the biggest. The most accrate cam covers are found in the old Monogram Tarantula kit. The JoHan CAMMER............
dodgefever Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Nice job on that. The Jo-Han one looks much better than any of AMT's efforts, but I see they still got the plugs in the wrong place on the passenger side. The covers are not symmetrical on the 1:1
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