Agent G Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Oh Danno I feel your pain. Her house is two miles west of I 25, and as such not threatened, yet. Her hubby, the Lt Col., got sent out of the country and is losing his mind right now. She's packed and ready to skip on a moments notice. No work for her today due to smoke and debris. If she bolts, she will probably head to St Louis to be with her mom and dad. I want her to head here and stay until hubby gets back. She'll need the diversion for sure. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Here in the Phoenix area we used to get "Dust Storms" now the PC weather people like to refer to them as "Haboobs" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent G Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Your "Haboobs" scare the stink out of me. I experienced one when I lived in Yuma. CHP cars out of Indio were sand blasted to bare metal. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moparmagiclives Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Here in the Phoenix area we used to get "Dust Storms" now the PC weather people like to refer to them as "Haboobs" I remember those, it's really something to be in. Don't those cause "desert feaver" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maindrian Pace Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 You get the hell inside when one of those things come through. They make the eeriest wail you've ever heard. -MJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Last year there were a number of haboobs that happened here in the evening when I was at home...kept the dog door shut and stayed inside...though I've been caught out on the road in the void a couple of times during them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six-Fo Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 ###### you guys over there get some rough treatment. Here in Estonia and actually most of the Europe we have nothing to worry about, maybe some thunderstorms that rip couple of trees out from ground and nothing more. And maybe little bit this or that. But we dont have anything that puts lots of people and their properties in such a danger. I feel sorry for you guys and I hope things will be alright. Its always sad to see things like tornadoes and other stuff on news. You americans have big and powerful country but there is nothing to do for stopping mother nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent G Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 You got that right Siim! G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Haboob? What's the origin of that term? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Haboob? What's the origin of that term? http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/22/us/22haboob.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 http://www.nytimes.c...s/22haboob.html Interesting. But why the need to come up with a new term for "dust storm," which is about as straightforward and self-explanatory as it gets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Interesting. But why the need to come up with a new term for "dust storm," which is about as straightforward and self-explanatory as it gets? Big mystery here as well, typical press shenanigans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Interesting. But why the need to come up with a new term for "dust storm," which is about as straightforward and self-explanatory as it gets? Given that the Arabic language predates English by thousands of years, isn't "dust storm" just a new term for haboob? Should we also avoid the use of the term "tsunami"? Besides, "haboob" is fun to say; I use the term any chance I get. David G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Given that the Arabic language predates English by thousands of years, isn't "dust storm" just a new term for haboob? Should we also avoid the use of the term "tsunami"? Besides, "haboob" is fun to say; I use the term any chance I get. David G. In this country they have always been called dust storms. Why the sudden shift to calling them something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathgoblin Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 We just had some wild storms here last night. Big chunks of Columbus and several other states are without power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 In this country they have always been called dust storms. Why the sudden shift to calling them something else? In the New York Times article cited above, there was one woman who was offended by the term "haboob" just because of its Arabic origin. I find that kind of thinking offensive. She expressed a concern that our returning military service personnel may become distressed and upset if they hear an Arabic word uttered in public. I'd like to think that the men and women who serve in our military are a bit tougher than that. In fact, it's quite possible that some of them brought the term back with them and helped to introduce it into common usage. Isn't that how foreign phrases like "Banzai!" and "Gung-Ho" came into common usage in English? "Toilet paper" is now called "bathroom tissue", "stewardesses" are now "flight attendants", "shell-shock" has become "PTSD", "plain" M&Ms are now labeled as "milk chocolate" and "prunes" are now "dried plums". All languages continue to grow and evolve, the changes occur whether we want them to, or not. So I guess the question should be, "Why not?". David G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 For Dano : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 (edited) In the New York Times article cited above, there was one woman who was offended by the term "haboob" just because of its Arabic origin. I find that kind of thinking offensive. She expressed a concern that our returning military service personnel may become distressed and upset if they hear an Arabic word uttered in public. I'd like to think that the men and women who serve in our military are a bit tougher than that. In fact, it's quite possible that some of them brought the term back with them and helped to introduce it into common usage. Isn't that how foreign phrases like "Banzai!" and "Gung-Ho" came into common usage in English? "Toilet paper" is now called "bathroom tissue", "stewardesses" are now "flight attendants", "shell-shock" has become "PTSD", "plain" M&Ms are now labeled as "milk chocolate" and "prunes" are now "dried plums". All languages continue to grow and evolve, the changes occur whether we want them to, or not. So I guess the question should be, "Why not?". David G. Because they're "Dust Storms" always have been, always will be. Why not a native American term ? I'm sure our Ak Chin, Apache, Hopi, Navajo, Pima, Tohono- O'odham neighbors have an equally colorful term for dust storms we could use. "Banzai" ? Really ? Edited June 30, 2012 by Greg Myers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Because they're "Dust Storms" always have been, always will be. Why not a native American term ? I'm sure our Ak Chin, Apache, Hopi, Navajo, Pima, Tohono- O'odham neighbors have an equally colorful term for dust storms we could use. "Banzai" ? Really ? You're right, but my point is, what can we do to stop it from happening? Things change, there's not always a lot we can do about it. And yes, "Banzai". It was brought into common usage in English by our GI's who served in WW II. The Japanese soldiers typically used it as a battle cry during desperate infantry charges or suicide attacks. David G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Ok, Gung Ho works. I've heard that used before, Now tell me how most Americans would use "Banzai" in our every day language . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Because they're "Dust Storms" always have been, always will be. Nobody can control how English changes, and that's the beauty if it, and, well, most languages. There's a good reason words come and go when dictionaries are updated and published each year. English is made up a many bits, pieces, and words taken from other languages, so there's no hard and fast rule as to which words are accepted and which are shunned. I have a friend in Phoenix, and he's referred to them as hoboobs for as long as I can remember- it has nothing to do with being "PC". You could say "twenty-three skidoo", too, if you please, but I'm sure you'd get some funny looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Ok, Gung Ho works. I've heard that used before, Now tell me how most Americans would use "Banzai" in our every day language . More to the point, almost everybody in this country knows the word "banzai" and has an idea of what it means. Even if they don't use it every day, its usage and meaning are understood and accepted by most English speaking Americans. Nobody can control how English changes, and that's the beauty if it, and, well, most languages. There's a good reason words come and go when dictionaries are updated and published each year. English is made up a many bits, pieces, and words taken from other languages, so there's no hard and fast rule as to which words are accepted and which are shunned. I have a friend in Phoenix, and he's referred to them as hoboobs for as long as I can remember- it has nothing to do with being "PC". You could say "twenty-three skidoo", too, if you please, but I'm sure you'd get some funny looks. Exactly my point! Thank you. David G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 You say haboob, I'll say dust storm, we'll see who gets the laughs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Notarangelo Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 we got fires here in southern idaho that took 66 house so far and its 50% contained,and were not even in fire season year here. to top it off we only got 500Th of a inch of rain.for the last month so were under the gun for some serious fires this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 ever wonder how they determine what % under control ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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