Car Crazy 81 Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I'd came across this idea from the Spruebender forum i'd figure i share this with everybody, I'd found some Nail Polish Thinner from my local beauty supply its cost 4 bucks a bottle its a 4oz bottle.
george 53 Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Uhhhh could ya maybe kinda tell us a little more about it,maybe???? Does it work like regular liquid glue?
Car Crazy 81 Posted December 29, 2012 Author Posted December 29, 2012 Uhhhh could ya maybe kinda tell us a little more about it,maybe???? Does it work like regular liquid glue? Its not much to tell it has the same indgredients and bond strength as Tenax the difference is the name and size of the bottle which goes a long way.
Pro Wrench Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 The stuff that Flex-I- File sells to use with their touch and flow applicator is the exact same stuff as Tenax.
george 53 Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 THANKS guys! I exclusiely use Ambroid liquid glue and I've gotten quite comfortable with it after all these years! There's a beauty supply store near here where my wife an daughter buy their needs, so I'll look there. THANKS AGAIN,guys!!!
Danno Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 OR, Here's what I use. Works great! MUCH cheaper! Methyl Ethyl Ketone . . . AKA: MEK Available in gallons or quarts. Trust me ... a little goes a long way. I can't imagine needing a gallon. A quart will last half of forever. I just put a little in a small glass jar for the workbench (in fact, I use my last Tenax container so I have the built-in brush). Check your local paint or hardware store for pricing.
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) Is the nail-polish solvent actually Dichloromethane (DCM)—or methylene chloride ? Edited February 12, 2013 by Ace-Garageguy
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 Just for clarity, dicloromethane (DCM) and methylene chloride are the same thing (TENAX, Ambroid Pro-Weld) .Also sold as solvent for acrylic plastic fabrication as WeldOn #3. MEK is methyl ethyl ketone, a different chemical (Plastruct Plastic Weld) with different bond characteristics, also widely used as an industrial solvent and paint stripper. So, which chemical is the nail-polish solvent posted above ??
TooOld Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 I also use MEK . I bought a quart at Ace Hardware for about 10 bucks more than a year ago . Bill , does DCM work better or about the same ? I've never tried Tenax .
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 I also use MEK . I bought a quart at Ace Hardware for about 10 bucks more than a year ago . Bill , does DCM work better or about the same ? I've never tried Tenax . I've been testing them side-by-side for a couple of weeks off and on. So far it seems to me that DCM is hotter, evaporates quicker and makes a deeper bond. That opinion is subject to change as the testing progresses.
george 53 Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 That's good to know. Is it hot enough to warp 10 thous,. plastic sheet? Or 20 or 40 thous.? I use alot of sheetstock for various things, and Ambroid glued 'em all without bein so hot it warped the plastic. Thanks.
Kit Basher Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 Ambroid is also methylene chloride (DCM). I have some Testors Liquid Cement which is MEK. My personal opinion is that the Ambroid works much better. Faster and a stronger bond.
george 53 Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 THANK YOU Hugh. Now I know what to get. I was told the MEK was bad stuff to be breathein. Since I never sniff the stff I'd rather use something I'm familiar with!!! I DRINK the Amdrose, my stuff goes together GREAT!!!!
crazyjim Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 I don't understand all these chemicals, how hot they are, and so forth. I guess these things aren't all the same and I've been told to stay away from MEK because of nasty fumes. Big deal - I smoke and have cancer a couple of times already.
von Zipper Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 I've been using this for awhile now, It works as well as the old M.E.K. but is a healthier substitute and smells like finger nail polish remover-not the strong smell of M.E.K
Danno Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 Von Zip: I've wondered about that stuff. Thanks for the info! I'll give it a try.
Kit Basher Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 I was told the MEK was bad stuff to be breathein. I DRINK the Amdrose, my stuff goes together GREAT!!!! George, I strongly advise against drinking Ambroid! Seriously, it's not too great to breathe in either. It does work great, tho, and I'm having more and more trouble finding it these days.
george 53 Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 Yeah, Me too, Hugh. I usually buy a bottle or 3 at the toyshows My regular Vendor freind Mr.B, always brings me a bottle or two, but thuis last time, in Oct. be told me they were discontinueing it due to health regs, si I'm GLAD to hear about the fingernail polish thinner. It's NOT MEK or a substitute, so I THINK the thinner stuff may be the way to go. My wife goes to "Sallies" a beauty supply store near here an I'll be goin with her to check it out! Oh an thanks for the warning! I don't drink anyways.
MikeyB08 Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 So... if I gathered all of the information correctly, the chemicals mentioned above are forms of glue?! Newbie like me really lost the convo on this one.
Pro Wrench Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 So... if I gathered all of the information correctly, the chemicals mentioned above are forms of glue?! Newbie like me really lost the convo on this one. Well, not exactly. Tenax, Ambroids, Plastruct Plastic Weld, Flex-I-File, MEK, etc. are all chemicals that actually melt the plastic at the joint and litteraly "weld" the two pieces together. Epoxy, CA glue (as in Super Glue, Zap, Etc.) are actual glues that not only melt the plastic but actually also become a part of the bond. The nice thing about using the chemical welding type of stuff is that if you get it on you it doesn't glue your skin to whatever else you are touching.
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 Well, not exactly. Tenax, Ambroids, Plastruct Plastic Weld, Flex-I-File, MEK, etc. are all chemicals that actually melt the plastic at the joint and litteraly "weld" the two pieces together. Epoxy, CA glue (as in Super Glue, Zap, Etc.) are actual glues that not only melt the plastic but actually also become a part of the bond. The nice thing about using the chemical welding type of stuff is that if you get it on you it doesn't glue your skin to whatever else you are touching. Ecactly !! Well said !!
MikeyB08 Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 Well Alrighty Then!! So you can pick this up at your local Hardware store? Will def. be getting some of this stuff. Thanks for clearing that up guys.
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 Well Alrighty Then!! So you can pick this up at your local Hardware store? Will def. be getting some of this stuff. Thanks for clearing that up guys. You CAN get MEK, (which is Plastruct Plastic Weld) which works okay for a lot of folks, at the hardware store. You CANNOT get DCM (which is Tenax, Ambriod, etc.) at the hardware store. Different chemicals. Read post #8.
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