AMT vs MPC '32 Chevrolet kits

[keyser]

The 28 Sedan had a Chrysler “413” in it. It was parted out into the Ramchargers Dune Buggy, and it doesn’t share much with the Roadster pickup/Woody tool. 
The box art for the pickup is a closed cab not roadster. I’ve never seen a closed cab A pickup kit, or I’d own it. 
Horrors,  two threads discussing 2 contemporary kits cross fades. Wait 18mos and restart both. 

[Mark]

The fender unit/chassis, stock parts, and stock engine from the '28 sedan were carried over to the woody/pickup.  MPC management didn't really want to reissue the AMT boxed kits in the same form, hence the alterations.  MPC also had a habit of reusing parts from one kit in another, so the A fenders/chassis and woody/pickup chrome flathead engine got used in the Barris Mail Truck kit also.  Back to the '32 Chevy (which never appeared in AMT packaging), the initial issue with both bodies was later issued as two individual kits before the panel truck got butchered into the Vampire Van.  The Vampire Van body does still fit the stock Chevy fender unit, which makes for some interesting possibilities.

[keyser]

Mark, I have the Tudor and woody/pickup. I found a great resin Tudor with interior and doors molded in, so I planned to drop it on common woody kit, as I thought they were shared. They were different around tank and area below interior, didn’t look retooled.

Neither original Tudor and interior nor resin body with interior fit. Back in their boxes. 

The 28 Grille is in the weird Ramchargers rail/dune MPC kit. Which I bought for completeness sake ??‍♂️?

As always, I defer to you, but it was weird it didn’t fit  

 

[Mark]

Resin parts may or may not fit (maybe you have a copy of a copy, which affects fit).  For some reason, over the years I have had little trouble finding original Tudor sedan bodies, parts, and kits.  I sold half a dozen of them a few years ago at NNL East (all had the unique sedan parts, enough to complete a car) and I've still got a few of them.  Since the fender/chassis units aren't always in good shape, I have picked up several of the Woody/roadster pickup kits for parts.  The original sedan bodies do fit the later fenders.

[tim boyd]

Also wanted to add some clarification to the timeline here.   The following is based on my best recollection, but I did not go back into my library to verify the exact timing, so consider this directionally correct but subject to further clarity if anyone wants to do further detailed research. 

The original "AMT" 1928 Model A Tudor, as designed and manufactured by MPC, debuted sometime in 1964 (without going back and looking at AMT ads in the model mags back then, I'm guessing later that earlier in the year) as a one-time only production run.   

The follow-on "Wild Ones" Woody/Roadster Model A pickup, this time under MPC branding, followed sometime in 1965. 

Then for 1966, the tool was re-run for two separate, stand alone kits, a Roadster pickup and a Woody.  These shared the new box art merchandising theme that was also found on MPC's 1966 annual kits. 

Finally, just want to concur with Mark's comment above that the original issue AMT '28A Tudor body fits the MPC 1929 Pickup/Woody fender/frame units just fine.  In fact, I built one this way  (as illustrated below) for an old Street Rodder Modeler's Corner column (c. 1983 or 84) using the 1978 Roadster Pickup kit underbody including the Corvette IRS.  

Hope that helps a bit...TIM 

 

 

[Tom Geiger]

Per the Scalemates references.. note that it’s crowd sourced, so anyone can add / change the information there.

I went in there and updated some of the Jeepster info based on data provided to me from the brain trust here.

So why don’t you guys go there and straighten it out?  

[stavanzer]

Scalemates! Bah!  Since editing is crowd sourced, every time somebody knowledgeable corrects a post, some body, who doesn't "Know the real history" goes back to 'correct it' back the original "wrong' history. I've watched it happen.  Thus bad info is perpetuated while the real story gets lost.   Very much like "Real History" in that way...........

 

Edited to add. "That's why I don't bother correcting things at Scalemates, Tom"

Edited February 14, 2021 by alexis

[Dave Darby]

11 hours ago, tim boyd said:

...Finally, just want to concur with Mark's comment above that the original issue AMT '28A Tudor body fits the MPC 1929 Pickup/Woody fender/frame units just fine.  In fact, I built one this way  (as illustrated below) for an old Street Rodder Modeler's Corner column (c. 1983 or 84) using the 1978 Roadster Pickup kit underbody including the Corvette IRS.  

Hope that helps a bit...TIM 

 

 

I love that little sedan. Regarding body and fender fit, conversly, if you trim away the rumble seat floor, the Woody body also fits quite well on the AMT roadster fenders as showm below. Unfortunately the rear fenders lack the taper on the inside that would allow the sedan interior to fit as well. (Of course, that can be overcome also.)  This Hugger Orange Woody is getting a flathead Ford. Back on track. I second that a retool of the Chevy SD body would be nice.

Edited February 15, 2021 by Dave Darby

[Force]

2 hours ago, alexis said:

Scalemates! Bah!  Since editing is crowd sourced, every time somebody knowledgeable corrects a post, some body, who doesn't "Know the real history" goes back to 'correct it' back the original "wrong' history. I've watched it happen.  Thus bad info is perpetuated while the real story gets lost.   Very much like "Real History" in that way...........

 

Edited to add. "That's why I don't bother correcting things at Scalemates, Tom"

Well it's sad because it's nothing wrong to have a correct database on kit historys and kit relations, especially now when there has been merges, buyouts and mixed up brands, it's not easy to know what you are going to get if you haven't been in the hobby for 40-50 years.
But we might have to go back to topic now.