aurfalien Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Hi, Does any one know of a kit similar in look to this car? Looks totally cool. Edited December 30, 2014 by aurfalien
Snake45 Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Revell does a snapper that could be done like that, except it has a full hood and no engine. You could combine the body with one of the old AMT '34s for frame and engine detail, though, I'd think.
Snake45 Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 There's also the old Monogram ZZ Top car, but it's in 1/24 and I'm not sure it would work well for a fenderless. As to the Revell non-snapper '34, it's seriously undersized and the hood area in particular is visibly too short. It actually might work for the OP, though--stretch the frame a little and leave the hood off. (I've been trying to think of something to do with mine--at the moment I'm leaning toward using the body for a fuel altered and the short chassis for a T or Bantam street rod. But all that could change tomorrow.)
Greg Myers Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 This kit has a tube frame with independent front and read suspension.
Dave Van Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 That Revell 34 Ford above is the old kit based off the Revell 26 Ford kit.....and thus really bad body...... I find the snapper kit, 100% different than the above 34, pretty good kit really. Never took out my calipers to check....but to my eye it is good.
Greg Myers Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Yes, and it has the fender "splash" aprons.
Ace-Garageguy Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 The Revell / Monogram snapper kit is about 2 scale-inches or so too short (length) in the hood. To me it looks wrongly proportioned instantly, but then I look at real ones daily in my chosen profession. FYI: I HAVE measured the real cars, and posted the confirmed actual and true results on several occasions. on multiple forums (including this one...but the repetition of corrections gets tiring). Still, it looks fine to some folks, and some just don't care long as it's kinda in the ballpark. Fine by me. In fairness, I'll say that lotsa guys have built very good looking models from it with no changes to the hood, but it drives me buggy. It DOES make an excellent base for just about any chopped 3-window '34 you could think of. The itty bitty Revell '34 coupe on the tube frame is about the right size for a '30s Fiat, which is what mine will become. The tube chassis IS quite nice (perfect size for the accurately-scaled T it was designed for originally, or any '25 or so T hot-rod model...they ALL will work on that frame...or for smaller race-cars) but the engine / trans is also undersized significantly. 1934 Fiat 508 There's also this old AMT '34 3-window, that again has some proportion problems (and everything in the box is garbage except the body shell). Bad as it is, it too can be the basis of a cool old rod, with some work...
Dave Van Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 TWO scale inches??? I just set my digital calipers to 2 scale inches.....no wonder it looks fine to me!!!! I am no 33-34 Ford expert.....so it was never an issue with me. Be nice if it was 100% correct.....just see why it has never come up with anyone I know that has built it or used the body elsewhere. I've designed kits for myself and others.....but this one never crossed my mind!
Tom Geiger Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Here's mine built from the snap kit. It was a fun low detail build. One tip - don't spend a lot of time improving the interior, you can barely see it through the chopped windows!
Ace-Garageguy Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 TWO scale inches??? I just set my digital calipers to 2 scale inches.....no wonder it looks fine to me!!!! I am no 33-34 Ford expert.....so it was never an issue with me. Be nice if it was 100% correct.....just see why it has never come up with anyone I know that has built it or used the body elsewhere. I've designed kits for myself and others.....but this one never crossed my mind! Yeah, I'm either cursed or blessed (depending on your point of view) with a micrometer eyeball. I see flaws of just a couple thou on models, and break out the calipers and yup, it's off. I once walked into an aircraft hangar where there was a brand new (at the time) Cirrus SR 22 G3. I'd been around the G2 for several years, and I remarked to the owner of the shop that Cirrus had lengthened the cowl. He swore up and down that the cowl was exactly the same on the G2 and G3, so I asked if we could measure it, just for grins. Sure enough, the cowl on the G3 was 3/8 of an inch longer than the G2 parked in the same hangar. Note: I instantly saw a 3/8 inch change on an airplane that is 26 feet long. This comes in handy for building 1:1 hot-rods and models, as more than a few folks over the years have remarked on the nice stance and proportions of some of the things I've done. But it's probably why I get so riled up about errors that most of the world is content with. I don't try to be a perfectionist, hyper-critical jerk...I just can't help seeing whatever is wrong or different.
Dave Van Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 My 34 Ford simple project........ Changed the wheels and tires....made the decals including the rivet and panel lines. A fun 2 day project....... I'll keep my 'ignorance is bliss!!!
Ace-Garageguy Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Great looking model, Dave. Like I said, guys have built some really attractive pieces using the Revell snapper, and this one is a perfect illustration of why this kit is the best 1/25 3-window '34 out there.
Art Anderson Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Yeah, I'm either cursed or blessed (depending on your point of view) with a micrometer eyeball. I see flaws of just a couple thou on models, and break out the calipers and yup, it's off. I once walked into an aircraft hangar where there was a brand new (at the time) Cirrus SR 22 G3. I'd been around the G2 for several years, and I remarked to the owner of the shop that Cirrus had lengthened the cowl. He swore up and down that the cowl was exactly the same on the G2 and G3, so I asked if we could measure it, just for grins. Sure enough, the cowl on the G3 was 3/8 of an inch longer than the G2 parked in the same hangar. Note: I instantly saw a 3/8 inch change on an airplane that is 26 feet long. This comes in handy for building 1:1 hot-rods and models, as more than a few folks over the years have remarked on the nice stance and proportions of some of the things I've done. But it's probably why I get so riled up about errors that most of the world is content with. I don't try to be a perfectionist, hyper-critical jerk...I just can't help seeing whatever is wrong or different. Bill, I hear you! 2 scale inches in 1/25 scale is 80-thousandths of an inch--to see how much that is, just take a look at a piece of Evergreen .080" stock. Of course, to most eyes, especially those not used to studying the real thing, that probably would not be very noticeable. As for the AMT/Ertl '34 Ford coupe, the top of the hood and cowling is far too square, especially given that the kit was drawn up by none other than the legendary John Mueller (who owns a real '34 Ford street rod, BTW!), but with the very likely proviso that it had to be a modified reissue of the unarguably badly done AMT Ertl '33-40 Ford Tudor sedan done back in 1985-86 (that thing looks like an English Ford Model Y on steriods!), so it all had to work with the existing tooling for cost reasons. Too bad it is that the excellent Monogram '34 Ford Coupe/Cabriolet done in 1/24th scale back about 1964 or 1965 has been so badly butchered up over the years! That is still, to me, the ideal model kit of a '34 Ford Model 40! Art
Dave Van Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Bill, I hear you! 2 scale inches in 1/25 scale is 80-thousandths of an inch--to see how much that is, just take a look at a piece of Evergreen .080" stock. Of course, to most eyes, especially those not used to studying the real thing, that probably would not be very noticeable. As for the AMT/Ertl '34 Ford coupe, the top of the hood and cowling is far too square, especially given that the kit was drawn up by none other than the legendary John Mueller (who owns a real '34 Ford street rod, BTW!), but with the very likely proviso that it had to be a modified reissue of the unarguably badly done AMT Ertl '33-40 Ford Tudor sedan done back in 1985-86 (that thing looks like an English Ford Model Y on steriods!), so it all had to work with the existing tooling for cost reasons. Too bad it is that the excellent Monogram '34 Ford Coupe/Cabriolet done in 1/24th scale back about 1964 or 1965 has been so badly butchered up over the years! That is still, to me, the ideal model kit of a '34 Ford Model 40! Art I have a mid 70's Monogram 34....I do like.....still had the Greyhound radiator cap at that time!!! Love to see it restored to the original 6 in 1 kit!!
Snake45 Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 The Revell / Monogram snapper kit is about 2 scale-inches or so too short (length) in the hood. Very interesting! I built one of these and never noticed. Will have to take another look at it. I did spot the shortness of the nose of the Revell tube-framed kit instantly. Some of us see flaws and errors better than others. The snapper '34 Ford didn't bother my eye at all, but Revell's '69 Nova and '67 Camaro drive me nuts with their errors....
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