jchrisf Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 They look really good on the video below. I have to paint in my office, no other choice and these are safe. Maybe I will try them but wanted to see what the pros here thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave G. Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) I think it was Genesis Models who did a review on these ( available to see at youtube and also Flory models). He went in with low expectations but by the end of the review was quite pleased to say they seemed to work well. I don't own any myself though. Edited March 20, 2020 by Dave G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchrisf Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dave G. said: I think it was Genesis Models who did a review on these ( available to see at youtube and also Flory models). He went in with low expectations but by the end of the review was quite pleased to say they seemed to work well. I don't own any myself though. Thanks Dave, I'm going to check that video out. I might have to try a bottle or two of the Velajo Metallic paint to compare. I have an order of paints coming.. I got AK chrome because I hear it is better than Alclad. I also got some Tamiya metallic acrylic paint because it looks good online as well as MM Lacquer metallizers and Mr. Color. I should know what is best after I try all these. It would be nice if I could use Valejo for everything because it is the least stinky.. if I can only make it shiney too without stink. I've got all these paints coming from Scalehobbyist.. wish I would have got the Vallejo with the order but didn't know about them at the time... they seem to have the best selection and price from what I have found: https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Paint_and_Construction/browse.php?s=3&t=1&u=1 Edited March 20, 2020 by jchrisf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Roberto Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 They work OK, nothing to get excited about. I thing the Model Master metallics look better, but then you might not be able to put up with the odor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave G. Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 15 hours ago, jchrisf said: Thanks Dave, I'm going to check that video out. I might have to try a bottle or two of the Velajo Metallic paint to compare. I have an order of paints coming.. I got AK chrome because I hear it is better than Alclad. I also got some Tamiya metallic acrylic paint because it looks good online as well as MM Lacquer metallizers and Mr. Color. I should know what is best after I try all these. It would be nice if I could use Valejo for everything because it is the least stinky.. if I can only make it shiney too without stink. I've got all these paints coming from Scalehobbyist.. wish I would have got the Vallejo with the order but didn't know about them at the time... they seem to have the best selection and price from what I have found: https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Paint_and_Construction/browse.php?s=3&t=1&u=1 I mostly use MM Metalizer paints, especially for aluminum and such. But I went to Molotow for chrome. If you're looking for chrome I think it's Molotow or Alklad will be the winners there. But the MM Metalizer buffing series is awesome for other raw metal looks. When you buff them you get the specular inner tones and such of real metals imo. I use the aluminum plate buffing color a lot. You know what's tough to find is a really good copper, you would think it should be easy. well I'm still looking !! And still just going back to plain old Testors enamel for copper. Flory did a review of the AK extreme metal and I think he concluded their Stainless steel was a good stand in for chrome, better than the AK chrome . And he liked several others as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchrisf Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 13 hours ago, El Roberto said: They work OK, nothing to get excited about. I thing the Model Master metallics look better, but then you might not be able to put up with the odor. 40 minutes ago, Dave G. said: I mostly use MM Metalizer paints, especially for aluminum and such. But I went to Molotow for chrome. If you're looking for chrome I think it's Molotow or Alklad will be the winners there. But the MM Metalizer buffing series is awesome for other raw metal looks. When you buff them you get the specular inner tones and such of real metals imo. I use the aluminum plate buffing color a lot. You know what's tough to find is a really good copper, you would think it should be easy. well I'm still looking !! And still just going back to plain old Testors enamel for copper. Flory did a review of the AK extreme metal and I think he concluded their Stainless steel was a good stand in for chrome, better than the AK chrome . And he liked several others as well. I guess I'll have to try several different brands to see what I like the best. I definitely won't compromise quality for odor.. I'll just have to be more careful when I use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave G. Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, jchrisf said: I guess I'll have to try several different brands to see what I like the best. I definitely won't compromise quality for odor.. I'll just have to be more careful when I use them. MM Metalizer has a pretty strong odor but it doesn't linger long and it dries fast. You've got to keep them stirred up and keep the lid on the bottles as much as you can because they evaporate quickly. When airbrushing, swish the cup around often so the metal doesn't settle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchrisf Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Dave G. said: MM Metalizer has a pretty strong odor but it doesn't linger long and it dries fast. You've got to keep them stirred up and keep the lid on the bottles as much as you can because they evaporate quickly. When airbrushing, swish the cup around often so the metal doesn't settle. Thanks Dave, I picked up several of these last week and will give them a try soon. I saw a video where Andy X created a special lid for his Paasche H that would fit right into these bottles with minimal waste. I've got an extra lid so I may have to try it.. or I'll just put a little in the cup of my Iwata Neo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Pol Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Don`t like them I use Ak extreme metal more durable that they are no need for black under it ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchrisf Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, John Pol said: Don`t like them I use Ak extreme metal more durable that they are no need for black under it ever Good to know John... many of the European modelers I follow on YT use AK paints.. I needed a chrome and ordered AK's extreme chrome. I'll have to pick up some other colors soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Pol Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 you will love the AK chrome use it all the time I have the whole line of there paints and love them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoRover007 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Really depends on the finish you’re going for but in my experience Vallejo is now the leading brand in airbrush paints for me. Their model air line is fantastic and their brush paints are pretty incredible in that they don’t leave brush strokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchrisf Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) I just found @David Thibodeau's YT.. it's fairly new for anyone who wants to learn from one of the masters. That led me to his FB page and then again to @ClayK Kemp's FB page.. looks like they are using Mission Models acrylics. Dave did a cool trick to get an aluminum finish on this video. Saw you posted there @John Pol. Many options to choose from... Edited March 21, 2020 by jchrisf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmthamade Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 I've found they work great as long as you don't use the recommended primer. Don't know how they would be for a shiny, new finish or chrome, but for a used finish I find them great. Just started into car models, primarily aircraft for a long time. Did this with the Vallejo Metal Colors. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchrisf Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 Looks great Don... I love the metallic planes. What is a good one to start with if I've never built a plane before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmthamade Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Most recent Revell P-51D Mustang in 1/32 is a good kit to start with. Easy to assemble, good fit, very reasonable price and availability, good size if your all thumbs...there are others in different scales/manufacturers, but the mustang would be my first choice. HTH Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoRover007 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 22 hours ago, jchrisf said: I just found @David Thibodeau's YT.. it's fairly new for anyone who wants to learn from one of the masters. That led me to his FB page and then again to @ClayK Kemp's FB page.. looks like they are using Mission Models acrylics. Dave did a cool trick to get an aluminum finish on this video. Saw you posted there @John Pol. Many options to choose from... Not to second guess the guy. But I feel like he could have use MM Aluminum Buffing Metalizer and would have achieved a better look. Probably not as durable though. The vallejo metallic paints are pretty impressive. Their chrome I wouldn't say is on par with an Alclad applications. But their other metal colors are very nice and super in scale in terms of flake. I wonder if they can withstand a lacquer clear coat so they could be used as a silver paint for car bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64Comet404 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/21/2020 at 8:12 AM, Dave G. said: You know what's tough to find is a really good copper, you would think it should be easy. well I'm still looking !! And still just going back to plain old Testors enamel for copper. If you can find it, SnJ Copper is probably the best one out there. This is straight out of the bottle, and without using the buffing powders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SfanGoch Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Hawkeye's Hobbies, the manufacturer of SnJ Spray Metal, went out of business some years ago. The chances of finding it are slim to none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave G. Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 11 hours ago, SfanGoch said: Hawkeye's Hobbies, the manufacturer of SnJ Spray Metal, went out of business some years ago. The chances of finding it are slim to none. Too bad, that's a fine looking copper posted above ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 What's wrong with Alclad II 110 copper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Pol Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 alclad is not durable you can`t handle to offen it will come off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SfanGoch Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Uschi van der Rosten has great products Blitz Rounds Polishing Paste Sets Metallic Polishing Powders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchrisf Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) Andy used some of his Motorcycle engine it is looks great.. I'm giving this stuff a try next time I place an order. If it doesn't queue up for you look at the 4:00 mark Edited March 29, 2020 by jchrisf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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