berr13 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I'm looking for ideas for headers for the Revell '57 Ford. I want to build a period street racer, so the fender well headers from the gasser are not what I'm after. Anyone have any ideas, clues or tips regarding inside the frame headers for the '57 Ford? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 The AMT '57 Ford has a set of headers. Not the greatest (tooled in the early Seventies, most kit headers looked a little spindly back then) but they should fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plowboy Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) Try a set from a SBC. The port spacing is a little different on the center ports. The Y block has a bit of space between them vs. the Chevy siamesed ports. But, that's a simple fix. The AMT '66 Nova has a set that may work with the Ford engine and frame. Edited December 19, 2020 by Plowboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) Yes, a SBC set should work with some slight modifications to the center pipes as the port spacing is close. There is a pair in the AMT 56 Victoria kit they call Hedman Headers, they are shortys and not the regular style tube headers. Edited December 19, 2020 by Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berr13 Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 I thought of SBC headers, too, but I'm having no luck with that idea. The ones I like the best--Revell '69 Camaro Z-28, Revell '69 Nova 350, and AMT '66 Nova--won't work. The '57 Ford front end dictates something that sweeps back before down. The Revell Ford suspension and a motor mount crossbar won't allow for headers to drop down then back. I've also tried some other variations in my parts box, but, same story. I even pulled out some of the old Johan Maverick pro stock headers. I'd like to find that someone has produced some resin headers for this kit, and I just haven't heard of them yet. Oh well... Any other thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodent Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 In real life there wasn't much room for non-fenderwell headers in the 57-64 Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I have seen resin headers, but they are copies of the Revell kit fenderwell pieces. The most readily available "street use" headers in the Sixties were probably the Hedman units as in the AMT '56 Ford kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rodent said: In real life there wasn't much room for non-fenderwell headers in the 57-64 Ford. I have a FE 390 in my 63 Galaxie and there is lots of room in the engine bay, but the steering and suspension parts are in the way and the headers have to go back some before they go down and snake around between the steering and bell housing. I bought Sanderson shortys for my car and they fit well as the primary tubes and collectors ends before and above the steering and suspension, they are tube headers and kind of copys the factory cast iron headers Ford had on the high performance 352-390-406 engines before the long 427 cast iron headers. Edited December 20, 2020 by Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuces ll Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I wonder what problems I'm gonna have when I try to stuff an FE engine from the AMT '60 Starliner into the Revell '57 Ford Gasser kit...????....???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 The Revell '57 frame should be roughly the same shape as the '60, correct? These modern kits with correct detail like steering boxes and linkage do complicate things though. Ford did put the FE in the '58 Ford which is the same as the '57 in those areas, things might be on the tight side but something should fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbill Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I can tell you that space was a premium on my 1:1 55 fairlane , the headers themselves fit fine, they are shorties, but the exhaust pipe itself on the drivers side had barely enough room to fit between all the stuff on that side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painted Black Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I would just make a set from solder.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuces ll Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Mark said: The Revell '57 frame should be roughly the same shape as the '60, correct? These modern kits with correct detail like steering boxes and linkage do complicate things though. Ford did put the FE in the '58 Ford which is the same as the '57 in those areas, things might be on the tight side but something should fit. Hope I can make the FE cast iron headers fit without issues.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 7 hours ago, Mark said: The Revell '57 frame should be roughly the same shape as the '60, correct? These modern kits with correct detail like steering boxes and linkage do complicate things though. Ford did put the FE in the '58 Ford which is the same as the '57 in those areas, things might be on the tight side but something should fit. 6 hours ago, Deuces ll said: Hope I can make the FE cast iron headers fit without issues.... Yes the 58 Ford's and the 58 Edsel's except for the Citation and Corsair are based on the same chassis as the 57 Ford...the smaller Edsel's had no other option 1958 than the E400 wich was a 361 FE and the 58 Fords you could get a FE on the option list. So a FE would fit in the engine bay and as the later Galaxie chassis is a development of the 57-8-9 chassis with longer wheelbase the cast iron headers would most likely fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuces ll Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Cool! I'll give it a whirl.... ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodent Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Is the OP using a Y-Block or an FE? For an FE, I would suggest the cast iron headers from all of the AMT kits. For a Y-Block, I don't know what to suggest other than the '56 headers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berr13 Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Rodent said: Is the OP using a Y-Block or an FE? For an FE, I would suggest the cast iron headers from all of the AMT kits. For a Y-Block, I don't know what to suggest other than the '56 headers. I'm using the Y-block that comes with the kit. I'd like to replicate a mid 60s street racer that a kid on a budget might put together...312 with a 3 speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Ok, the Hedman Headers from the 1956 kit would work just fine for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berr13 Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 Thanks everyone! Appreciate the good ideas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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