KingSix Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I'm in the market for a new airbrush, and I have a few questions.I have limited airbrush time but I use an Iwata sprayer with a 1.4 tip for DP-90 and a DeVilbiss with a 1.8 and up tip for primers almost daily (when I am working ) . I have a lot of experience with spraying, but I am NOT a painter. What is the average some of you more experienced airbrushers spend on a good airbrush. With regular cleaning and maintenance do they last pretty much forever like a real paint gun ? Any help is appreciated ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris White Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Well, I am no expert, novice at best, but I started with a Badger 350, and hated it. No offence to Badger or those like Badger. I then spent the money for a dual stage air brush, and bought a Iwata Revolution. I could not be happier. In one of the threads I had posted, someone made the comment that I would actually love it. They where right. The message I learned is spend the money on good equipment, it is worth it in the end. I hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSix Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Chris, I'm that way with my 1:1 tools, Snap-On or Cornwell , everything else is 2nd best. My rationalization is, why by the same tool twice, spend the money the first time and be done with it ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Johnston Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I have a dual action Badger 175 and I love it. The 175 is a very different airbrush than the 350,. and reasonably priced. Typically 75 bucks on line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent G Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) I have a Badger 350 that I rarely use anymore, a Badger 155 that is still my fave when I'm painting car bodies, and a Renegade (Badger) Velocity for fine detail work. I recently picked up a Paasche Talon TG3F set on sale. It has three different needle and tip assemblies and is fast becoming my favorite of them all. My compressor is a Bear Air basic with a really good regulator/moisture trap. I like http://www.chicagoairbrushsupply.com/airbrushes1.html This is where I purchased the TG3F, it's $109. G Edited October 25, 2013 by Agent G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I have a Habor Freight POS A/B, and their compressor, and it does what I need it do, my main use is just painting bodies and parts, one day, I would like to get a "brand name" A/B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyboy Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 My primary A/B right now is an Iwata HP-BCS (love it), secondary for large work is my Badger Crescendo, sold the Paasche, and last but not least is my ultimate favorite prized piece which is an untouched brand new Thayer and Chandler. (cant bring myself to open the tie downs on it that hold it into the velvet case.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang1989 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I've got two Badger 200 airbrushes that I picked up last year when Micheals had em on clearance for 20 bucks (yep I said 20 bucks)new and still in the boxes . I ordered two quick disconnects for both AB's and THAT made just as big of difference as having an internal mix AB over the BLAH_BLAH_BLAH_BLAH Badger 350 AB I started off with! The QD's make things nice for a quick swap out of ABs if one is giving me a lot of static in the middle of a big job. Just switch out AB's real quick and continue working. I also use a Badger 1/6 HP compressor that is super quiet in the mornings (about 4 am) to not wake anybody else in the house. I have had really good luck with the 200's so far. I do have a Renegade Velocity if I get down to the detail work though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjeff Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 This is my good airbrush, pretty much the cat's ass for the price http://www.elmcityhobbies.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=166_167&products_id=2697 If you get a good AB with all metal parts, it will last forever, don't get tempted by the cheap chinese knock offs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
935k3 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) I have an Iawata Eclipse HP-CS gravity feed and is great but when I bought the Paasche Talon TG3F set it became my favorite. It is the nicest airbrush Paasche has ever made. The large paint cup is especially nice. The cheap knock offs are bad because poor machining tolerances they need extra O-rings and seals that wear out. Please checkout Don Wheeler's excellent airbrush review site at this link https://sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/ before buying anything. Edited October 25, 2013 by 935k3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I have a Badger 350 that I rarely use anymore, a Badger 155 that is still my fave when I'm painting car bodies, and a Renegade (Badger) Velocity for fine detail work. I recently picked up a Paasche Talon TG3F set on sale. It has three different needle and tip assemblies and is fast becoming my favorite of them all. My compressor is a Bear Air basic with a really good regulator/moisture trap. I like http://www.chicagoairbrushsupply.com/airbrushes1.html This is where I purchased the TG3F, it's $109. G Wayne, this has me intrigued. IIRC, the 155 is a single needle/tip dual action AB that will spray anything from a tight fine line to a very wide pattern. I'm not sure if I've ever heard of someone not liking their 155. What is it about the Talon TG3F with its three needles/tips that make you prefer it over the 155? (I don't own either, but I'm always "looking".) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
935k3 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) Monty, I have an Anthem 155 and the Talon. I like the 155 for bigger stuff but the Talon does have a smaller tip(.38 mm) and it is gravity feed. Once you try gravity feed you will definitely like it better, it atomizes paint better at lower psi. It sprays pre-thinned paints like Alclad better than a siphon(jar) feed. The Talon has a bigger cup than most gravity feed airbrushes. It also has a needle limiter that lets you use it like a single action airbrush(see pic below) Edited October 25, 2013 by 935k3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent G Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Monty, I have an Anthem 155 and the Talon. I like the 155 for bigger stuff but the Talon does have a smaller tip(.38 mm) and it is gravity feed. Once you try gravity feed you will definitely like it better, it atomizes paint better at lower psi. It sprays pre-thinned paints like Alclad better than a siphon(jar) feed. The Talon has a bigger cup than most gravity feed airbrushes. It also has a needle limiter that lets you use it like a single action airbrush(see pic below) What he said! LOL Sorry for the delay, My pain meds put me out early last night. What Dale said pretty much sums it up for me as well. That limiter allows me to get into detail painting a heck of a lot easier. Remember I'm primarily a armor/figure modeler so intricate patterns, fine lines and lots of shading are the norm. Ditto the color cup. I will say this though, I have had the 155 for 15 years or so. Learning to paint a basic double action AB is is invaluable. The muscle memory involved with trigger control is key. It was super easy to adapt to the Talon after that. Sounds like I'm teaching basic firearms, LOL. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang1989 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) Monty, I have an Anthem 155 and the Talon. I like the 155 for bigger stuff but the Talon does have a smaller tip(.38 mm) and it is gravity feed. Once you try gravity feed you will definitely like it better, it atomizes paint better at lower psi. It sprays pre-thinned paints like Alclad better than a siphon(jar) feed. The Talon has a bigger cup than most gravity feed airbrushes. It also has a needle limiter that lets you use it like a single action airbrush(see pic below) Now THATS an airbrush!!! Tooltruck is coming today and that thing is all mine!!! Thanks for sharing that. I think its just what Ive been looking for in the best of both worlds. . Edited October 25, 2013 by mustang1989 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Smith Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 That Talon looks nice and I found you can get a kit that includes three sizes of tips PLUS an auto style fan tip for a 3 inch spray pattern. The needle limiter is cool too - right now I just loosen the needle, pull it out to, and tighten again to get a "single action" action on my Eclipse - I'm going to look into the Talon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
935k3 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) For anybody thinking about getting the Talon get the TG-3F set that comes with all three tips .22mm, .38 mm,.66mm and the fan spray head. It also include a hose and a hanger for the airbrush. This will cover all your needs and isn't that much more. I got mine on Amazon for $105 with free shipping. Edited October 25, 2013 by 935k3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSix Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 In my search for a new AB, I found this add on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-PAASCHE-TG-2L-TALON-AIRBRUSHES-Dual-Action-Airbrush-/190931315415?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c7464aad7 Broken down that comes to $61 and change per AB, shipping is free from the distributor . in order to get these we would need to have all 6 of them spoken for before ordering. As I said before, I'll let me trade feedback speak for itself if you're worried about getting burned. Three of them are already spoken for, we need 3 more people interested in getting an AB for about half price. PM me if you are interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSHWoodworks Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 The Talon does look very nice. Would it be good as my first "real" airbrush? I had an old badger that ran on can air when I was a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSix Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 I'm currently running and old old off brand brush.. whatever name was on it has worn off. I got it from a painter buddy of mine. It works OK, but I'd really like something better .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang1989 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 I actually found this jewel available from my Matco Tools truck vendor that frequents the shop weekly for 72 bucks and can pay it out! It should be here next week. KingSix:I was going to take you up on your offer for those 6 airbrushes. The only thing that stopped me was the truck can warranty mine. Thanks for the offer pal, Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSix Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 Matco ? Really ? Can you put up a link ? The Matco truck stops by my house 2x a month or so, (it's where my shop is ) .. never seen an airbrush on the truck before ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang1989 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Youre not gonna be able to get one right off of the truck but if your vendor is cool like mine is, he'll see if Paashe is on his vendor list from Matco. I've gotten my Badger 150 and my Badger Renegade Velocity through him already. I saw this Paasche job and had to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang1989 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 I like being able to pay it out too. It's rare for me to have 100 bones laying around in my slush fund! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSix Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 My vendor , Mitch Cato, is one of the coolest guys around, he's hooked me up more than once .. I'll ask him about it next time I see him .. worth a shot anyway.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang1989 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Whats funny is my vendors name is Patrick Ball. Man that guy must have had it rough as a kid!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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