Actually I was talking about things like ABS, Traction Control, Stability Control, Tire Pressure Monitors, Air Bags, Post OBD1 emissions controls, ect. Now leave most of that stuff as options for those that are willing to take the cost, weight, and complexity penaltys can have them while those like myself who don't have much interest in them, or like smaller stature folks that can be injured by airbags can opt out of them. It's funny., I saw somewhere the other day that the insurance industry was going to be increasing premiums because people were costing more to take care of post wreck and cars were begining to cost more to repair and/or replace after a wreck, yet some of the problems with the greater cost is some of the stuff I mentioned above again like airbags that are one use only and cost a small forture to replace and repair damage from:blink: