Jairus

Beautiful job Doug! 3 thumbs up all the way.

Doug, That is funny because I was pretty sure that was the article you were referring to as soon as I pulled out my 73's issues! The main reason I put Phil's name at the top of the list... I built this from another issue that year. Actually built three of these cars when the first, I felt, contained too many errors. By the third one I got it Korrect! Took me a while to get the whole series of issues via eBay since the build up was published in multiple issues. I don't know about anybody else but I will now go searching for your "Twin Boom Wrecker".

Did I say it was correct? Yes, the Internet is now and was then in our discussions as the major source for the average modeler regarding colors. Even that can be diluted by misinformation. Ford employees during the 30's admitted that from one pallet of engine green to the next the color was slightly different. Engine paint being nothing more than a rust inhibitor. But I did demonstrate a version of the frame painted.

Most excellent Jason!

Doug, some of the writers of those articles are very much alive today and members of this and other forums. I think it would be nice of you to name the issue and writer if it is not asking too much. About the only Model Mag still around then that I know of had to be "Car Model". SAE didn't start until '79 and MCS ended with the June '72 issue. Some well known names from the era that I can remember were (tho some have sadly passed): Phil Jensen Dennis Doty (Still writing now for MCM) Richard Carrol Tom Gaffney Lee Gilbert (Lost in the PNW) Jose Rodriguez Jr. Bob Paeth Jimmy Keeler (Still building but rarely writes) Philippe de Lispinay (Writing a book) I know that there are more and sorry to have forgotten someone. (Jimmy I know you read this stuff... please keep writing!)

I am not angry nore did I post anything that could even remotely be considered an "outburst". Did I type anything in ALL CAPS? Heck, I thought I was having a great day! My post was no more or less forceful than was CJ's, or any other post here so why are you not saying the same thing about CJ? My post was simply in response to the drift of the thread as I saw it. I am done with this thread and the subject as it seems rather than discussing the subject you two or three would rather attack me (i.e.:"Read more carefully", "Pay attention", "Probably no longer a part of....", "...you sound like you are 8 years old!")! Harry, you did use the word "offensive" in correlation with the event the aircraft took part in. The inference was very clear that you felt embarrassment with regard to the aircraft saying it could be offensive to someone. I was simply coming to a logical conclusion regarding your views and trying to help you see what I felt was an error in your judgment. I was not attacking you Harry! I see you debating with others in good natured ways but it seems that you and I can no longer do so on this forum. Pity. I shall make sure to give you wide berth in the future. Dave, I took a sabatical from the magazine. It was my choice and not Greggs. If you will look at the latest issue you will see that I have a Sketchpad there. Also, I just sent Gregg another How-To article last Friday and am currently working on another Sketchpad. My political affiliations have nothing to do with my work not appearing in the magazine during the dozen months. Gregg and I traveled the country for 5 years discussing politics and to this very day remain friends. But you are free to believe whatever you want to, it's still a free country. This thread is off topic and should never have been allowed to go further than a few posts IMHO!

I doubt the molds will be destroyed. I am sure some enterprising braintrust will purchase them or at the very least... lease'em!

HEY! Ahem yourself dude, Harry started it and I will not let a liberal statement get by the "filters" here with-out a response Andy.

The "act" is no longer being perpetrated against anyone any longer. Are you equally offended at a car used to ram innocent people standing at the curb by a crazed maniac? Should the "car" be destroyed? A car is just a car and an airplane is just an airplane and a gun is just a gun. It is the people in charge who wield the power that should offend you and that would be those who made the decision to point the gun/airplane and pull the trigger. The Japanese attacked us on December 7th 1941! The Japanese also systematically were invading and perpetrating genocide on the Chinese people. They were the bad guys and not "heroic" in anyone's eyes especially those of the Chinese. So do you equally consider the crazed maniac's "side" when he detonates his exploding vest in a crowd of innocent children in Israel Harry?

That is just silly liberal rhetoric! The two are mutually exclusive in that one was evil and the other good in order to STOP an evil! The Enola Gay is just a WWII bomber. Historical significance aside all war machines were designed to kill or deter. Yet for the military historian and aircraft lover a restored fighter or bomber is the coolest thing to touch and see churning the air above! Has nothing to do with glorifying the killing it has to do with the sacrifice of young men who fought in the wars and the cool machinery they used to do that, regardless of who's side the machine was constructed for. I personally find German and Japanese aircraft to be very cool and not the least bit offensive. FYI the Germans have rebuilt and restored one of the death camps as a museum, though I cannot remember the name. The site is to REMIND all who visit the horrors that war and unbridled power can bring. To that end the museum has been a very successful reminder. "Those who do not know their history are condemned to repeat it!" - General Santa Anna

They changed the whole box art and yours is fine! The early ones were recalled for incorrect shaping of the front window glass which effected the cowel too. But the box art with the black fade on it is the good one. The boxes with the red stripe and white background are considered to be "RECALLED" by Lindberg (soon to be valueable, NOT) Not that there is that much wrong with the "bad" one. I have two and they are fine for custom projects, in my opinion.

"Drawing board" that's funny.... :lol:

I purchased mine from Salem "Leasure Hobbies" two weeks ago. But... I got there the day they arrived! It takes time to get stock into the shops and depends on if the shop choose to bother and order a few.

When I was building back in the early 90's I only had one hour a day to work on models. I also had an hour commute to work and then back again in which to think about what steps I was going to do during that "happy time". No wasted efforts at the bench in those days! Of course some Saturday mornings were free... but then we were building an addition on the house too so... between kids, the house work and family events model time was very precious. Jason, I would love to see pictures when you get the chance and never mind the interruptions. That is just life!

Yeah so now you want to give this group ONE MORE reason to be on-line instead of building huh?!?!?!

HEY! Keep building and don't worry about that. At least they are talking about something that is slightly ON-TOPIC!

As the one who illustrated the directions but didn't write them... I will answer that. Gary and I talked at great length about including color specifications and we kept coming to the single question... WHO'S colors? A stock vehicle had any number of interior color and material choices. The exterior as well. The only color we could specify would have been a stock engine and chassis. A custom could have had it's engine re-painted ANY COLOR! Plus, is there not a color painting of the frame and engine illustrated on the outside of the box? I am not sure why this statement keeps coming up but I have heard it over and over.

I am just happy you both volunteered...

Boxed! All frames from the mid 50's were boxed and have remained so since then. "X" frames on the convertibles were "I" and "C" beams but the forward frames on your kits (1960 Ford and Edsel should be filled with epoxy putty if you do not like the cast in cavity. That cavity is so the plastic is not so thick once removed from the mold. A casting thing, since plastic shrinks slightly. Sink marks are the mark of that shrinkage. J

I have Paul's auctions pop up in my email anytime he has one listed. I almost always check them out... especially the Fords and big Mercurys. The paint and finish detailing is first rate most of the time. Only flaws I have noticed is usually window fitment seems a bit off and some of the chrome trim around the window glass seems not so smooth. I acknowledge that this is my biggest problem as well. Which is probably why I notice it in the first place. Pro means Professional. Selling your wares for payment! I have no problems with anyone wanting to make a living with their hobby. Someone wise once told me that "if you can make a living doing what you love then you will be happy for the rest of your life!" I suspect Paul is either retired or selling other stuff privately. Because the work that goes into some of his builds on ebay is in no way enough to live on! But he does have a loyal following as demonstrated by the huge number of bids on each auction by closing date. If you want to see a few of what I consider the very best Professional painter/builder examples. Check out some of the beautiful work Chris Clark posts here on this forum! He has that window glass thing down pat and his bare metal work.... BEAUTIFUL!

Some of you guys taking part in this challenge have already built one or maybe two models inspired by my illustrations. I know one guy who has shown me 5 projects (begun but not yet finished) all based on my drawings. I am of course honored by the interest and touched by the huge response to this challenge! Frankly I had little expectations and figured that maybe 10 or 12 people would choose an envelope. Turns out we beat that just during the first couple hours! In fact the first half of the names on the list were attendees at the Pacific Northwest Model Car fest and more than half of those builders are members of Scale Auto Builders Association! Which brings me to mention one special member and good friend Stan Ulrich. I have known Stan for years. Not sure when he joined but it seems like he has always been around. Stan is unassuming, never boastful and would give you the shirt off his back if need be. If I ever needed a part or whole kit... Stan was the first one to offer it to me for no charge. Stan is also one of the most prolific builders in the club and has probably completed more of my designs than any builder barr none! Not only has he built more of my designs than any other... but he is good at it too! If he would slow down, polish his paint and fret over the details he'd really give Bill Geary a run for his money. Yeah, Stan is that good! But for Stan the fun of the build is .... building, not winning awards. So I thought I would take a moment and show you two of Stan's builds which are NOT in this challenge. (although I think the artwork is...) Stan built these quite a while ago and for some reason gave them to me! I am honored of course and they hold a special place in my collection not because they are something I thought up... but because of Stan's loving craftsmanship not to mention friendship. Both cars represent a significant amount of scratchbuilding and both also feature real wood used in the construction! The Boattail even has wood framing on the INSIDE just like the drawing. The attention to details is first rate! I show these for not only Stan's recognition but to give you guys an idea of what it will take to compete with Stan and the rest of SABA. Because these guys are GOOD! May the best modeler... enjoy himself!

When I did that drawing for Plastic Fanatic (The first time) in '93 I believe the 5 spoke wheels were suppose to be generic Cragars. But Torque Thrust II's would be cool too plus lower profile rubber. Surf boards can be found in a couple kits: Revell 1931 Woody or Sedan, new Revell 1937 pickup. Not sure if the AMT '41 is still out in circulation but it also has a semi scale long board. There are many others that had them, as surf boards have been popular bits the companies included in model kits.

WOW, there is a lot of cool going on there! Love the pipes. Love the Nail head motor. Love the Cheater slicks and have to echo the first request... where did you get them?

My point exactly! I say build it how you like and ###### the torpedos. Use evergreen, use putty, use a rusty nail.... just paint, glue, build and demonstrate the skills we have learned these past years (many for some of us) and DO IT! Don't lament, complain, file a grievence, make a new thread, get upset as there really is no model kit that is exact. JUST BUILD IT THE BEST WAY YOU KNOW HOW!

Dave, Let me make a suggestion. View the car from the correct angle then! In other words from eyelevel at the same scale as the model from now on. Then the line will look correct. The problem with model cars is when making a mold of a real item one simply scales down the dimensions but if that is done the result may not look correct. A gentle curve of line 9 feet long with only a 3/4" rise scaled to 1/25 will be completely invisible and nearly impossible to put into a mold unless it is exaggerated. When I got the first test shots back in '97 or so I brought this up with Gary and we had a long conversation about that very thing. There actually is a curve to that drip rail but it is sooooo slight as to be invisible once scaled down. The suggestion was made to make the curve greater and more exaggerated, but that idea never materialized unfortunately (along with the upper curves in the rear cargo door window). The result is that a model and a real example of the same car look quite different because our sight lines are different. How can they not be? Our eyes have not been scaled down and we normally view model cars from much greater elevations in respect to the 1/1 real thing. It is known as "God View". My suggestion is to take the kit and add your own drip rail and sand out the molding to suit your eyes.