Cato

The roof was pie-cut; 13mm at front edge, 4mm at the back. It's all in the thread but probably too hard to dig out. I wanted to kill the 'coal scoop' look from Pocher. The rear glass is untouched, just lower due to the cut. That's why the trunk height was cut about 6mm too. This is much closer to Gurney cars. The back of the rear seat comes up to the bottom of the rear window. I did in fact cut 6mm from the bottom edge of the upholstered seat back after the roof chop. looks all very proportional now. No wearers of period hats will sit there. Only slightly reclined, scantily clad, slinky starlets and '29 flappers. Dude, this is my bucket build so don't harsh my dreams. Yes, the roof will be covered in deep red gabardine with Marvin's beautiful landau irons. First the beltline must be designed to sweep front to rear. The fabric will not have the exaggerated dip ala Pocher but will be lower on the body side because of the chop. In fact the top won't look so radically cut when its bottom edge is defined lower. Spent a lot of time studying this. Style is everything. Loren didn't build his collection around cars he could wear a top hat in. PS - Your eyes are far less out of whack than mine are... Nice thought but I need the length of that board to continue the largely horizontal look of all the lines. Also, it gives me a chance to make chromed brass step strips as further accents.

Rest easy Harry. As I said, virtually anything we do will be something that was done by RR sometime. Here's your proof:

Down on the ground... A much clearer view of the final look. Almost all elements in place except running boards and beltline. All temporary; must be blown apart for the fabricating and assembly. But this is the main 'architecture' of look and stance. Finishes and textures of paint, chrome, glass and fabric will make a huge difference and (I hope) improvement.

Your observations about reference and and equipment are always welcomed. The Pocher India's rear doors are too high and distorted and bear no resemblance to 1:1. Must have been an engineering difficulty that forced that. Also the door posts. Face it; it could not have been easy to kit design for accuracy in the late '70's compared to today.

It's important to remember the Pocher car is an amalgamation of features seen at various times in production. You can't pin it to one year, series number, chassis number or anything. The carb, gas tank and shutters are other examples. Plus the 'mystery' Sedanca fenders. We can only hope to build 'representative' models. That's why we're both not 'wrong' in interpreting our cars to our ideals.

I sure did move it, per Marvin's kind instruction. Dunno why Pocher put it there unless for a left hand drive car. Huh? Why would they do that??. Anyway, Egon's '29 reference shot shows it the way I have it. I think mine does not align with what I assume is the control knob in dash center. But who's gonna pick that nit? Knob could have been under dash too. I closed the left side, drilled and cobbled links on the right. So it is aligned correctly with the firewall linkage. At some later point in P II production, RR went to thermostatic shutters so none of this. Confusicating ain't it??

Yes it does. When it's not so aggressive or gets thicker it's done. You can prolong a new bottle by refrigerating in a zip-lock bag when not in use.

Here's mine taken today. Of course it depends where you and I each drilled the firewall. Mine is relatively level. Same with the shutter rod. Important differences; my firewall is lowered .250. The rad is shimmed + .040. That's how I get a level hood line. The grille brace rod is angled slight forward due to where I drilled the rad. I hope these look right 'cause I can't preview them. EDIT; Note my firewall flush to the chassis minus the Pocher spacers. Since you lowered the f'wall and cowl, check all your other elements with the floor in place. It may lift your coachwork above the cowl.

Only if the radiator isn't installed yet. But mine is, so I have to come at it from the back side of the firewall. Not so in my case. I've had the rad on throughout to establish firewall / cowl and hood length. I just made the rods about 4mm longer, angle them into the firewall holes then slide them forward into the starting carb fitting and the rad shutter fitting. Several ways to skin the cat. The good thing is we are both getting it figured out.

Yes, that's the only way to do it. You can slide them in the front side too.

Lot of demands for stage props. No dioramas. The guy is working an engineering miracle on a Pocher. I should know.

I appreciate that you organized a place to review legitimate requests. I wrote the above. The real reason is to correctly organize all the content. My WIP is 37+ pages and (so far) 550 photos. Creating text, uploading 4 to 8 pics and links needs previewing because some of the pics and links don't load in correct order in relation to their captions. Throw in typos and poor structure and it's a lot of dancing around with just an edit button. I like to get things right before presenting them. In addition, I'm actually building the model which is not exactly a Snap-tite. The other request I mentioned was getting order numbers back on posts in a thread. That makes it easy to refer someone else to a specific spot. I understand that the whole site is now a WIP.

Not sure how you think this was directed at you. I take it you're one of the many that IS complaining and you felt the need to defend yourself....Well done. We're proud of you. You took it wrong. No defensive statements in anything I wrote. Quite the opposite in fact. Have a 9 year old read it to you so you can understand; there is not one complaint in any post I made here. I asked to have 2 features restored and suggested that a small advanced notice and instruction on changes would have avoided this clown show.

Hey 'Iceman'; you running for an Admin spot here? Thanks for reading the riot act; the last thing needed here. We all got that change was needed for tech reasons pages ago. And I have been building something for the last year and a half, steady. There's 37 pages of it in WIP. Any more sage advice?

Thanks for taking time to look at our questions and respond Dave. The clear explanation of purpose was for security upgrades, tablets and phones. Some of us highlighted features we feel are functionally useful which the old site had. When your workload relents, hopefully you can consider restoring them. No one, including me, is making demands. We all seem to have a clear vision of the facts of technical life around here.

It's for more than text. Arrangement of pictures with text and links is much easier than discovering you have something wrong and having to go back to edit.

Perhaps you'd be willing to volunteer your time so you can implement your ideas, Cato, instead of expecting someone else to take the time and effort to explain everything to each individual member in a way that suits each of them best? Think the time that would take, and even if you drafted just one post to explain all of the changes, would you be willing to take the time to answer each member's questions and address their concerns until they're each satisfied? IIRC, Gregg let it be known publicly that the forum would be down and there would be a server changeover last Thanksgiving-ish, and there was still complaining. People complain when they don't get help quickly enough, when their questions aren't directly answered, and when they feel their concerns aren't being addresses to their satisfaction, but who's going to volunteer their own personal time to help Gregg, Harry, Dave Ambrose, etc. take care of it all? Grow up Casey. I didn't advocate a personal reply to each member by greeting card. A simple aggregation of questions into the several problem areas could be addressed quite compactly and quickly. That's not beyond the skills of Dave who has the tech chops to manage all the web side. Lose your temptation to distort others words to make them seem dumb and unsophisticated. Spare me the lecture of how hard it is to monitor a site such as this. We all give homage to Gregg and recognition to Harry. Amazingly, Harry has figured out a way to donate his time to moderate AND contribute copious amounts of actual model-building content. Informative, entertaining and a referee all at the same time. Doesn't seem too self-sacrificing for him to do eh? The best change Gregg ever made was making him sole Mod and taking the bang-stick out of your hand. There were other bad Mod choices in the past; you were just the most recent. You also picked the wrong guy to lecture about effort spent on this site. As a contributor of a WIP with 37+ pages, spanning 1 1/2 years, with 900+ replies I know the efforts involved. Uploading 550 pictures, composing explanatory text plus building the actual thing is not an armchair effort. 400+ of those replies are mine which shows responsiveness to comments and questions. That does not encompass the other 1500 meaningful ( as opposed to 'Looks great!') contributory posts I've made since 2009. And many well-received builds. Study whom you choose to attack before displaying customary ignorance.

The fact of the matter is that many of us have posed legitimate, civil questions about features or lack there of, that have gone unanswered. I don't mean server or phone or 'web reception' issues. Instead we get another, newer, smash-mouth warning: http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/topic/104030-no-nonsense-approach/ I agree with Anthony's point; some small notice ahead of going live would have eliminated a lot of the 'I can't do this' and 'how do you do that?' confusion. A pinned 'instruction sheet' of feature changes, like our models, would have been a thoughtful way to get everyone acclimated and up to speed. And stem the tide of confusion and resistance. We get it; 'Deal with it or get out'. Motivation for change given as attracting younger members is a farcical idea. The kids are on a thousand social sites and crave only what they call 'entertainment'. And if they stumbled upon this site, they would die laughing at the 1954 look and feel of it. They're not into nostalgia. Graphics, navigation and use buttons were far superior on the previous version. The functionality of the previous version was also far superior for contributors; those of us who show and tell our work for the enlightenment and entertainment of all of us. I recognize that it's early in the cycle and things may be improved. But that would mean being attentive to the questions and needs raised by we users. We make the site what it is. It is not just a clubhouse for old guys. It's a showcase for skilled craftsmen and a learning ground for those with interest of any age. Hopefully the time can be found to address and implement those legitimate questions raised to give us the great functionality we used to have. Wish I could preview my remarks with the button we used to have. But I'll just reread them several times.

Are posts not being numbered a nitpick?

Yes, I LOVE that mouse-over-topic feature, saves a lot of time, a positive change. However that's not what I'm referring to... When I make a post and add photos I like to see what the entry will look like and be sure all my linked Photobucket photos show up correctly before I hit "submit." On the old system we could click on "options" that allowed us to preview our entry before submitting. If someone can confirm that's still there then I'll see if my Safari is hiding it from me. X 2. EXACTLY what I've been asking about and for the same reasons.

Skip, go to the OT Lounge. There's a big thread there where it seems Gregg is watching. This will be moved as mine was.

I second this, in fact I started a separate thread to Gregg's attention about it, not knowing this was the 'central pipeline', Apparently Dave and Gregg are monitoring here.

Are you able to reinstate the 'Preview Post' button when replying or creating a new thread? I only see a 'Submit Topic' button. I like to examine my content before going live to be sure pictures and text are correct. It cuts down on editing after the fact and makes managing a 30+ page WIP easier.

Just a note of caution in the rear suspension. It is very easy, by slight misalignment of the lever arms, to build a twist into the rear. When it's on its wheels, you may notice one corner of the body higher than the other and mistake it for a warp. When I got them all planted square, a drop of CA on each pivot and fastener held the setting. I had hair like the Wolfman when I started this .....