Thanks for the information....nope not too tight just poor quality parts you know money is more important than anything else thing. I remember in the 80s you might never had to change one once it had been done and after very high miles. Ours in a 84 Chevy pickup with a 305ci...also buying the best parts available here...or supposed to be. keeps up Ill try and turn in a labor claim to see what happens...LOL...funny huh?