Harry P.

I'm not working on any kit right now. No time!

I think the main difference is that in the 1:1 world it's much harder to be a builder than in the model world. You'd have to be a skillled metal worker, welder, electrician, mechanic, upholsterer, etc., and not many people can do all those things well enough to build a prize-winning car all by themselves. So in the 1:1 world the emphasis is more on the finished product, because the car is usually a collaborative effort. Iin the model world the emphasis is more on the individual's talent and craftsmanship... because generally one single person can build a model car. And in fact, the unwritten (and sometimes written) rule in model contests is that the model entered must be entirely the entrant's work. Like Andy said, if there was a category for "group builds" or something where the model itself was judged, regardless of who or how many people were involved, that would be more of a scale version of a 1:1 car show.

Well, this one was too hard for you guys... only three of you had the answer. This is a 2009 Besturn B50 from China. More info here: http://chinaautoweb.com/car-models/besturn-50/ Who got it right: sjordan2 Badluck13 stasch

Because it's often unclear what's being given the award: the car or the builder? A guy who uses his own money and time and talent to build a car and enter it in a show, and then sees a guy who bought a finished car win the Best of Show with that car, is obviously going to feel cheated. But the guy who bought and entered the finished car probably has a whole different idea... after all, it was the car that he entered, and it was the car that was judged and won. It all depends on how you look at it. Like I said, a good argument can be made for both sides.

Oh, don't worry... you'll stand out with that thing!

Like I said, the question is: Is it the car being judged/awarded? Or the builder? Jordan, you point out that it's different building a 1:1 car and a model. Of course it's different, but that's not the point. The initial question was: is it fair for a car in a show to win an award if the car is being shown by someone other than the person who built it. And that gets back to my question: Is the car being judged? Or the builder? Let's consider an analogy: If you take an apple pie your grandma baked and entered "Grandma's Apple Pie" in the county fair, and the judges taste it and award it a blue ribbon, who (or what) was the recipient of the award? You? The pie? Or grandma? See my point?

Actually competing in "real" car shows and in a model car show is exactly the same. Sure, it takes more money, time, etc. to build a full-scale car, but the basic idea–showing the finished product and competing with other entrants for awards–is the same identical concept for both. It's not apples and hand grenades, it's the same thing.

Is it the car itself that gets the award? Or is it the builder who's being recognized? You could make a good argument saying that the car is what's being judged, not the builder. In other words, it's not who built it, but the actual end result that's getting the award for "Best This" or "Best That." On the other hand you can make an equally good argument saying that the builder and his talent is what's really being judged, and it's the person who created the car that's being recognized, not the car. Tough question, and one with two good answers!

Only the great and powerful Gregg can answer that...

The November issue of Model Cars has a feature by Jairus using this very same cart kit.

Since you knew the answer to that one, here's one I've wondered about: Why did Japanese market cars have the outside rear-view mirrors mounted way up front on the fenders near the headlights like this?

And I think it's far more appropriate for Tom to do any explaining he feels he needs to do about his forum and how he runs his forum on his forum. And anybody who's a member over there and has a problem with how things are run over there should resolve those issues OVER THERE! If, as some have said, Tom doesn't allow anyone to post anything that goes against his own personal beliefs, then there's always the option of sending Tom a private email. (HELLO!!!) Why in the world would a Spotlight member feel the need to come over here and start a rant about a problem over on the Spotlight board? You can see what that has caused here, three (so far) useless threads about problems that are happening someplace else!

ok... if someone is a member over at Spotlight, and if the Spotlight board is the type of place that's run with an iron fist and nobody gets to say anything, then there are two choices: 1. Stay there and keep yer mouth shut. His board, his rules, for better or worse. 2. Find a forum that will allow you to be part of an actual conversation. Kind of a no-brainer, people. If you hate chocolate ice cream, do you keep on buying chocolate ice cream and tell everyone else how much you don't like chocolate ice cream, or do you try a different flavor you might like better and leave the chocolate to those who like it?

I see another "us versus them" discussion has popped up. So once again I'll explain it to you, but I'll talk reeeeeeeeallllllly sloooooooowwwwww so you all get it: If Spotlight Hobbies has a problem, why post here about a problem over there??? The appropriate place to talk about that problem is on the Spotlight Hobbies board! Who is banned from SH, who said what on SH, who doesn't like who on SH... that's all stuff to talk about on the Spotlight Hobbies board, not here. And finally, the Spotlight Hobbies board is what it is. If you like it, hang out there. If you don't like it, ignore it. But don't bring their problems over to our forum.

I have the photo I need.

Ok... like the other topic talking about the SA site, this topic should be discussed ON THE SPOTLIGHT BOARD! Why in the world would you complain about Spotlight's problems here and not on the Spotlight board??? If the Spotlight board needs to get its act together... tell it to the Spotlight board!

I hope everyone has had the chance to chime in here. And now, since what SA does, how they run their forum, etc. is their business, I think it's time to close this thread.

Shouldn't you be posting this comment over there???

I think they have a treatment nowadays for your condition...

Uh... no comment.

Quick! How many JCWhitney accessories can you spot?

Again, simple words fail me...

Words would be useless...

But doesn't that go against the whole point of a "24 hour build?"

Oh, where to begin? If you're interested I've got plenty more!