fseva Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I really want this red to pop - would it make any difference which color of primer I use (white or gray)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike 51 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Seriously? What's your best guess? Edited July 6, 2015 by mike 51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbox55 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Tamiya makes a pink primer just for that. It's really meant to replicate the factory process for Ferrari, but should work with any red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roncla Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I'd be using the white. Most paints are translucent to a degree with reds and yellows being amongst the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I'd be using the white. Most paints are translucent to a degree with reds and yellows being amongst the worst. Preach It, Brother Roncla! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I go by the rule of grey primer under silver colors and blacks, and white primer under everything else and it seems to work out well for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Pink Primer from Tamiya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTalmage Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) I used Tamiya fine primer in light gray and it turned out great using their bright red. Took two coats to really cover everything without running it, but this is what it looks like... Edited July 6, 2015 by JTalmage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_G Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I'd use white primer then a coat of yellow before the TS-49 if I was going for the brightest red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Van Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Tamiya white primer for me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fseva Posted July 6, 2015 Author Share Posted July 6, 2015 I used Tamiya fine primer in light gray and it turned out great using their bright red. Took two coats to really cover everything without running it, but this is what it looks like... It's gorgeous! I'd use white primer then a coat of yellow before the TS-49 if I was going for the brightest red You're kidding? Why the yellow, and would it be a gloss or flat yellow... which yellow would you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Chernecki Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I'd use white primer then a coat of yellow before the TS-49 if I was going for the brightest red I have heard the same thing. Custom painters will use a yellow base to get an eye popping red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete J. Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 For years Ferrari has used red and orange primers under their reds. White also works well. Gray will just kill the color because of the translucents of reds and yellows or you will have to put so much on it buries the detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fseva Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Thanks for all the help, guys! My 70 Chevelle is now clad in Tamiya White Primer. Have no yellow on hand, so I will have to forego that for now. This project was an attempt to find out why I had so many problems with the rear bumper in my previous attempt. Sure enough, Revell placed small tabs behind where the front bumper was supposed to go, but did nothing on the rear. So, I added my own tabs and will have no problem with the rear bumper. Edited July 7, 2015 by fseva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Chernecki Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Check out this test from Zero paints, Rosso Corsa over both grey and white primer. https://m.facebook.com/zeropaints/photos/a.249770328403339.56119.195140033866369/825695624144137/?type=1&source=48 Edited July 7, 2015 by Mike Chernecki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 You're kidding? Why the yellow, and would it be a gloss or flat yellow... which yellow would you recommend? I'd use Floquil Reefer Yellow (now discontinued, but I stashed up a few bottles) or Model Master Flat Insignia Yellow. I don't think the exact shade of yellow matters that much. (These are for airbrush, of course.) BTW, here's the last "bright red" paint job I did. I THINK I primed it with Model Master Rust, but there's a chance it was flat white--I can't recall for 100% certain. I DO remember that I laid just about an entire "little bottle" of Testor #3 Red on it--that's what it took to cover (with enough meat to polish it out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_G Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 That's pretty bright alright- I think my rods and cones are oversaturated now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roncla Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 The use of yellow as a base reminds me of way, way back in the day when I was a printer we used to use a yellow base when printing gold. It made a big difference to the brilliance of the gold on printed paper..... Just some usless info as I reminisce on my long lost youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_G Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I think Ducati uses a yellow base for their bright reds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Pink Primer is good, you dont have to use as much paint to get full coverage. And it pops just as much as it would if you used white primer. Pink primer on these, red paint was different on each one. Edited July 15, 2015 by martinfan5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10thumbs Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Frank, I've done some experimenting with red paint on different colored backgrounds. White, gray, silver, pink, gold, copper, rust colored and black. They are all different. No yellow yet. I have a real old Humbrol enamel that is just gorgeous. I'm talking decades old. Still good and it's a beauty. Looks real good on a white underground. Reminds me of the Ruby Red on brother's new 64 Sport Fury. That was a killer red! Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fseva Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Frank, I've done some experimenting with red paint on different colored backgrounds. White, gray, silver, pink, gold, copper, rust colored and black. They are all different. No yellow yet. I have a real old Humbrol enamel that is just gorgeous. I'm talking decades old. Still good and it's a beauty. Looks real good on a white underground. Reminds me of the Ruby Red on brother's new 64 Sport Fury. That was a killer red! I found a can of Chrysler Yellow, and I tried that on a spoon, and then used the Tamiya red over half of the spoon... other than the overlap area, which allowed some of the yellow to show through, I couldn't see much of a difference... except that it took more paint to cover the yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 except that it took more paint to cover the yellow. Pink Primer=less paint needed to get full coverage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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