'23 T Delivery Van

[charlie8575]

Some folks might just wanna do this....    to each his own.  I have a bunch of old boxes stored away.

That's a cool display, Tom. I like it. I'm getting ideas....

Charlie Larkin

[Tom Geiger]

That's a cool display, Tom. I like it. I'm getting ideas....

Charlie Larkin

Just for clarification... that's not my house.  That's the back room at the International Model Car Builder's Museum in Utah. Photo taken this spring.

[charlie8575]

Just for clarification... that's not my house.  That's the back room at the International Model Car Builder's Museum in Utah. Photo taken this spring.

It's still cool and I still like it. 

Charlie Larkin

[Art Anderson]

I'm amazed, what with all the hue and cry about "inaccurate this", "inaccurate that" that nobody has caught the rather crude character of this (and its '23 T roadster predecessor), particularly in the fenders and the wheels.  Why AMT chose to do this kit (instead of simply tooling a delivery body for their actually pretty much accurate (certainly for the time it was introduced--1961) '25 T double kit completely escaped me in 1975 when it was first released.  In so many ways, it's pretty much Aurora/Lindberg crudely done.  I have a couple of these kits, and one of these days the bodies are gonna get mounted up on the far better-done 1925 underpinnings.

Art

[Jim B]

While I cannot speak about this kit in particular, I can speak about the AMT 1925 Ford T Fruit Wagon kit.  Yes, the kit is crude & poorly fitting (the wheels don't actually line up with the fender openings, thick plastic, poorly fitting C-cab).  It looks like a Model T, but I'm not sure how accurate it actually is.

[hooknladderno1]

Is this kit out now? If so, anyone know if Hobby Lobby has them yet? I have a project that I was working on that I heavily modified the kit sides to resemble a 1920's ambulance. Got stuck with smoothing the areas of modification  (now solved) and realized that the kit sides were too short.   So, I scratchbuilt new sides, cut the roof and chassis.  So, I need a replacement  chassis, roof and floor pan.  

Edited September 27, 2015 by hooknladderno1
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[hooknladderno1]

Is this kit out now? If so, anyone know if Hobby Lobby has them yet? I have a project that I was working on that I heavily modified the kit sides to resemble a 1920's ambulance. Got stuck with smoothing the areas of modification  (now solved) and realized that the kit sides were too short.   So, I scratchbuilt new sides, cut the roof and chassis.  So, I need replacement a chassis, roof and floor pan.

Edited September 27, 2015 by hooknladderno1
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[explorer2770]

Is this kit out now? If so, anyone know if Hobby Lobby has them yet?

David,

I saw the kit in the Lexington, KY Hobby Lobby on Friday.  I skipped it because I'm looking for the re-issue Ford Ranger.  I've noticed that Lexington gets new releases sooner than others, so it should just be a matter of time before it shows up in your area.  If you need it sooner, send me a PM.

Brandon 

[Nacho Z]

Yes, David, the kit is out at Hobby Lobby.  I got one and looked it over this evening.  I pretty sure this will be my Annual 24 Hour Build kit.  Just have to figure out which candy bar to use.

[hpiguy]

Exactly. Keep the useless miniature box and spend the money on producing something we could actually use.

Your opinion on 'useless'.

Many like them, in fact so many like them that the feedback has Round2 keep producing them and including them in their  kits.  Many kit collectors/builders appreciate the marketing, graphic arts and nostalgia of the boxes as well as the kits but they don't want to keep the bulky kit box around after building.

This looks like a fun kit with those new decals. I'll gladly display the mini box next to the kit and recycle the big box it came with. 

[hpiguy]

Here's a look at everything in the box, including those great decals.

 

 

[unclescott58]

Picked up one of these today using a 40% off coupon at Hobby Lobby. If you watch Chris' review above, you'll know everything you need to about the kit. And like he said, it's worth it for the decal alone. Though my plan is to build it as the vintage auto parts delivery van. I'll use the Nestle decals somewhere else. Though I don't where as of yet.

[Mr mopar]

Thank you Chris for the video ........................ Now I want one ..some cool looking mag wheels fat tires killer paint job and a Hemi engine ....................... Hot Rod oh yeah baby !

[Junkman]

I'm amazed, what with all the hue and cry about "inaccurate this", "inaccurate that" that nobody has caught the rather crude character of this (and its '23 T roadster predecessor), particularly in the fenders and the wheels.  Why AMT chose to do this kit (instead of simply tooling a delivery body for their actually pretty much accurate (certainly for the time it was introduced--1961) '25 T double kit completely escaped me in 1975 when it was first released.  In so many ways, it's pretty much Aurora/Lindberg crudely done.  I have a couple of these kits, and one of these days the bodies are gonna get mounted up on the far better-done 1925 underpinnings.

Art

I think it was initially done as a promotional for Anheuser-Busch, in a similar vein they did the equally crude 1/20 scale beer wagon with Clydesdale horses.
I guess the "crudeness" was actually meant to add rigidity, so they'll sustain their intended use better.

This is a lamp with one of the AMT wagons:

I've seen smaller, round lamps with the Model T van inside, but can't find an example atm.

It looks like when the A-B contract was filled, AMT released them as kits and IIRC initially even included the decals. Imagine that in our PC-ridden times!
 

Edited March 6, 2016 by Junkman

[Art Anderson]

I think it was initially done as a promotional for Anheuser-Busch, in a similar vein they did the equally crude 1/20 scale beer wagon with Clydesdale horses.I guess the "crudeness" was actually meant to add rigidity, so they'll sustain their intended use better.

This is a lamp with one of the AMT wagons:

I've seen smaller, round lamps with the Model T van inside, but can't find an example atm.

It looks like when the A-B contract was filled, AMT released them as kits and IIRC initially even included the decals. Imagine that in our PC-ridden times!
 

Christian, 

That Budweiser 8-horse hitch with the Beer Wagon lamp wasn't done by AMT--I have no idea who made it, but those were 1/25 scale, believe it or not!  AMT Corporation actually tooled their model kit in 1977,  several years after the advertising lamp you show was produced--I happened to be in the loop on that project, saw their reference pics, and drawings, then when the kit was released (late July 1977), I was handed a deal to build 6 of them as presentaton pieces for people at A-B, delivered 5 of them personally to AMT in Troy Michigan, and the 7th personally to Annheuser-Busch in St Louis that August.  (Still have an unopened case of the kits (3 to the carton)!

As for the '23 T kits from AMT, there were three versions: A roadster (why in all names did they decide to tool that one when they still had the tooling for their 1961-released '25 Roadster, which in real life is visually identical to most people, was then, and still is, a rather nicely done model kit)?   There were two further releases off their '23 T--a Cantrell woodie station wagon (or Depot Hac--take your pick), and the delivery van.  Not one of those three can hold a candle to their original '25 T Double Kit however.

Art

[unclescott58]

Christian, 

That Budweiser 8-horse hitch with the Beer Wagon lamp wasn't done by AMT--I have no idea who made it, but those were 1/25 scale, believe it or not!  AMT Corporation actually tooled their model kit in 1977,  several years after the advertising lamp you show was produced--I happened to be in the loop on that project, saw their reference pics, and drawings, then when the kit was released (late July 1977), I was handed a deal to build 6 of them as presentaton pieces for people at A-B, delivered 5 of them personally to AMT in Troy Michigan, and the 7th personally to Annheuser-Busch in St Louis that August.  (Still have an unopened case of the kits (3 to the carton)!

As for the '23 T kits from AMT, there were three versions: A roadster (why in all names did they decide to tool that one when they still had the tooling for their 1961-released '25 Roadster, which in real life is visually identical to most people, was then, and still is, a rather nicely done model kit)?   There were two further releases off their '23 T--a Cantrell woodie station wagon (or Depot Hac--take your pick), and the delivery van.  Not one of those three can hold a candle to their original '25 T Double Kit however.

Art

Art, you say the Depot Hack was based on a Cantrell design? Do you know the back ground of what vehicle AMT used to modeled the Delivery Van from? I've looked through several of my books, and some on line, and can't seem to find anything that matches it exactly in real life. I'd like to know more about where this design came from. I also find it interesting that no seat back is provided for the driver or his passengers in this vehicle. I would not surprised in real life to find set ups like that. But, can you imagine how uncomfortable it be to drive a vehicle like that?

[Art Anderson]

Art, you say the Depot Hack was based on a Cantrell design? Do you know the back ground of what vehicle AMT used to modeled the Delivery Van from? I've looked through several of my books, and some on line, and can't seem to find anything that matches it exactly in real life. I'd like to know more about where this design came from. I also find it interesting that no seat back is provided for the driver or his passengers in this vehicle. I would not surprised in real life to find set ups like that. But, can you imagine how uncomfortable it be to drive a vehicle like that?

Delivery bodies such as that were made in cities and towns all over the country--Ford sold Model T's as driveaway chassis for that purpose.  Who knows what shop (or where?) produced the body that AMT modeled?  I have no idea myself.

Art