Ace-Garageguy Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 If you can't find another one, measure what you have with a caliper. I've got just about every wire wheel made in styrene, glad to send you one if I have it.
2002p51 Posted October 9, 2015 Author Posted October 9, 2015 If you can't find another one, measure what you have with a caliper. I've got just about every wire wheel made in styrene, glad to send you one if I have it. The outer rim is .689" the inner rim is .621" But don't go to a lot of trouble 'cause I may just decide to use the kit wheels after all.
mike 51 Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 since there aren't really any decent( or affordable) Ford wires available...you really can't go wrong with steel wheels n caps.
2002p51 Posted October 9, 2015 Author Posted October 9, 2015 since there aren't really any decent( or affordable) Ford wires available...you really can't go wrong with steel wheels n capsI agree. That's why I used them on my 1:1 roadster. I also like that the caps in this kit are the same ones I used on my car. First time I've seen them in scale.
2002p51 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Posted October 10, 2015 Today it's raining, there's nothing interesting on TV and so I am quite literally watching paint dry.
2002p51 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Posted October 10, 2015 It's starting to look like a car, well, sorta. Now that I see the stance I wish I had dropped the front end like I did with the channeled version. I may tear it apart and do that. . . maybe. The upper radiator hoses will also be a problem. And, like the channeled version I did, there's just something I can't put my finger on that doesn't look quite right. Not thrilled. There's a lot of potential in this kit but I haven't got it where it needs to be yet.
mike 51 Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Looks great except..Front end sits too high...headlight stands/shock towers need paint...headlights too high/too far apart..and the firewall isn't right.. But it's the.kit design not your workmanship. Edited October 10, 2015 by mike 51
2002p51 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Posted October 10, 2015 Looks great except..Front end sits too high...headlight stands/shock towers need paint...headlights too high/too far apart..and the firewall isn't right.. But it's the.kit design not your workmanship. I agree on every point.
mike 51 Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) The shocks seem very long to me (comparing the model with Bud's car) and the towers too (also they look too "modern") trimming the spring/shocks would help of course. Headlights are kinda hard to mock up on highboys (for me) but their placement is so important to the "look". Making the firewall look more like a 29 would help but it'd be a big deal to make it match the floor etc. The engine compartment looks too long to me, but Dennis used a stock 29 hood w/out a problem...the kit is so close to being right but.. The channeled version just looks wrong to me on so many levels,but I don't care for them much anyway... Edited October 10, 2015 by mike 51
2002p51 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Posted October 10, 2015 ...the kit is so close to being right but.. My thoughts exactly.
tim boyd Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Drew...I think your nearly assembled '29A Bud Bryan style Roadster looks righteous....just as it sits. Just my view....TIM Edited October 11, 2015 by tim boyd
tim boyd Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 Don't want to in any way contradict or minimize the a various comments and conclusions about the kit design above...but as far as the headlamp position goes....the kit position (as shown on Drew's model) matches up pretty nicely with vintage photography of 1950's and early 1960's rod builds. I agree that, for a more recent build style/design ethic, the headlamps are too high. TB
Skip Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Here's what I have: Not sure what kit they are from but that's the bare red plastic color. I haven't painted them. reading throu SAE Issue # 106 the '32 Ford issue, those wheels are probably from the '32 Victoria released as kit no T177 from 1972 "Vintage Fire Chief". I thought I remembered ithe '32 Vicky being issued as some sort of Fireman car, so when I saw it this morning it clicked. Hope this Jared your memory as well. Edited October 11, 2015 by Skip
Spex84 Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 Nice work, looks very clean, and your photography is impressive too.I agree that the headlights seem too high/widely spaced, but I think the same of the 50/60s aluminum headlight stands that placed the lights in pretty much the same position...and those stands were an authentic part that abided by the headlight-height laws of the day. An example of such headlight stands can be found in the AMT '25 T, and John Milner's couple from American Graffiti.The only other things that bug me about this kit are the front tire sidewalls (what's with the double row of treads on the sidewall? I've never seen a 1:1 tire like that)...and maybe the overall "squareness" of the parts and detail. It's a kit that actually looks better with a thick layer of paint on everything to smooth out the mechanical nature of the molded detail.
Ace-Garageguy Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 The outer rim is .689" the inner rim is .621"But don't go to a lot of trouble 'cause I may just decide to use the kit wheels after all.Drew, all the AMT '32 wires I could find have an outer-rim OD of about .660". I'm sure I had one set of slightly larger diameter AMT wires that look like your pics, but I think I may have given them away a couple of years back. If you can use two of the .660" diameter wheels, I'll be glad to send them to you.
2002p51 Posted October 12, 2015 Author Posted October 12, 2015 Drew, all the AMT '32 wires I could find have an outer-rim OD of about .660". I'm sure I had one set of slightly larger diameter AMT wires that look like your pics, but I think I may have given them away a couple of years back. If you can use two of the .660" diameter wheels, I'll be glad to send them to you.That's okay, I appreciate your efforts but I don't need them.Thanks.
Canuckjd Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Very inspiring. I would like to attempt one of these builds. Great job
2002p51 Posted October 12, 2015 Author Posted October 12, 2015 The fix is in: Mounting the spring behind the axle instead of on top will lower the front approximately 2 scale inches. Helps the stance a ton. The headlight stanchions/shock mounts will be stripped and painted black then mounted lower. Then the whole thing put back together.
mike 51 Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 looking forward to seeing it "bolted" back together...the slight increase in wheelbase may help the appearance too.
horsepower Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 The only other things that bug me about this kit are the front tire sidewalls (what's with the double row of treads on the sidewall? I've never seen a 1:1 tire like that)...and maybe the overall "squareness" of the parts and detail. It's a kit that actually looks better with a thick layer of paint on everything to smooth out the mechanical nature of the molded detail.if you can find an issue of Street Rodder Magazine, look to see if you can find a street roadster or open fender coupe with Firestone implement tires on the front, if you don't find one look at the Coker Tire ad it may have the tire in it. A lot of us have been waiting for this tire to surface, in the real world they were used on the front of Sprint Cars and early track roadsters, and the search for the track roadster look, and a desire for as narrow a front tire as possible led to their migration to the street.SoSome of us that also build race cars have been wanting it for building early sprints and super modified type cars, and it's a really good scale copy of the real tire.
tim boyd Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Here are the "new" headlight stands. Yeah...that works! Excellent progress, Drew. I am sure you are inspiring many others with this project....TIM
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