Joe Handley Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Yeah....like 65% of lottery revenues in NYS were supposed to fund education. If the gas tax hasn't been used to maintain and repair either before, what makes you think that it'll be used for that later? There are potholes I know on a first name basis around here. .19/gal ain't gonna pay for much, especially as mileage improves and electrics emerge, even if DieselDog lived here in the US, he couldn't pay for infrastructure all on his own
dieseldawg142 Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) ....... Edited May 11, 2018 by dieseldawg142
dieseldawg142 Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) ......... Edited May 11, 2018 by dieseldawg142 cant fix the darn quote thing....
Joe Handley Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Lol, I hear you Diesel, I wonder about how much of the Dubai skyline I help fund over the last decade.
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Lol, I hear you Diesel, I wonder about how much of the Dubai skyline I help fund over the last decade. Don't forget the indoor ski resort... In the freakin' desert... And they're gonna build another one, 1.2 kilometers long... Edited January 31, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy
scummy Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Here in sydney we got 97cents to $1.00 a litre . Im about to get my triple carb torana out and give it a whirl , it hasnt been out of the garage for about one and a half years . Fuel was $1.50 a litre when she was put away .
SfanGoch Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 whatever you guys down south do, DON'T let your gov. switch you to the metric system! Now we pay 4 taxes on 1 gal (almost 4 liters) instead of one tax on 1 gal. it's a sweet way for them to suck more money out of you.... I'll see your four and raise you three. NYS residents pay SEVEN taxes on a gallon: Below is a breakdown of the gasoline taxes in New York, according to AAA, as of Jan. 1, 2015. The estimated sales tax would vary based on the pump price and county of sale. NYS Excise Tax: 8 cents NYS Petroleum Business Tax (effective 1/1/15) 17.8 cents NYS Fuel Quality Testing Tax (one half of one mil) .05 cents NYS Oil Spill Fund .0196 cents State Sales Tax of 4% (capped at $.08 – the $2.00/gallon rate) 8 cents The Metropolitan Commuter Transportation District -- including NYC and the Hudson Valley --surcharge: .75 Local Sales Tax: 10.88 cents Total State Taxes: 44.75 cents Federal Taxes: 18.63 cents Federal and State Tax Combined: 63.4 cents Here's the joker in the deck: Critics said that the bigger problem in New York is that the revenue from the gas taxes doesn't even go to what they are supposed to. Only 22 percent of the $3.8 billion collected from highway taxes and fees each year goes to capital road projects, and the rest is diverted to cover state budget costs, mainly debt payments, a report in February from the state Comptroller's Office found. In 1991, New York established the Dedicated Highway and Bridge Trust Fund to collect fees and taxes to fund road repairs. But the fund is always raided, leaving critical highway and bridge projects unfunded, Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli said. Business groups said that if the state is going to hit drivers with high taxes, the money should at least go to infrastructure needs. DiNapoli estimated in 2012 that New York faces a shortfall of up to $89 billion in funding for water, sewer and transportation projects over the next two decades. Big price differentials at the pump in NYC. As of this moment, the cheapest gas in my area is at a Sonomax station at $1.83/gal. for regular. Incidentally, until recently, this station sold 108 Octane racing fuel for $7.49/gal. Then, there's a BP station at the FDR Drive and E.23rd St. in Manhattan selling regular for $2.59 and premium for $3.19.
Mike 1017 Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Wallstreet Rumors: 1,2,&31. Saudis to cut production 5%2. Russia and OPEC to cut production. 5%3.Iran's goal is to ramp up to 500.000 barrels a day.4.Friday oil: up 8% closed up 3% on rumors alone,5.The price of oil should be stable With a continuing downward trend of prices. 6.So in other words no one knows where oil prices are headed. 7.Everyone enjoy the low price of gas while it lasts !!!!
dieseldawg142 Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) .... Edited May 11, 2018 by dieseldawg142
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 ... 6.So in other words no one knows where oil prices are headed.I quit even listening to anyone's predictions years ago after hearing a well-respected petroleum-market-analyst, in a media interview, say "the market price per-barrel is poised to go up, go down, or stay the same".Geez. And they actually get PAID to come up with that stuff.
Harry P. Posted January 31, 2016 Author Posted January 31, 2016 Nobody can predict where oil prices will go. It's such a complex equation... supply and demand, middle east conflicts, countries ramping up or slowing down production, and the ultimate wild card... emotion. There is no real logic to oil prices, because if there was, the price wouldn't go from $110 a barrel a year ago to $30 a barrel today. It's all speculation, emotion, and a guessing game. Just like the stock market. A huge financial behemoth built on... nothing.
dieseldawg142 Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) ... Edited May 11, 2018 by dieseldawg142
Harry P. Posted January 31, 2016 Author Posted January 31, 2016 Tesla needs to get their act together and offer a car or two that mere mortals like me can actually afford to buy! I mean, the cars they have are absolutely gorgeous, with amazing performance. But I'm not one of those who can afford to spend 80 grand on a car... If they ever want to become a mainstream car maker and not just a niche player, they're going to have to figure out a way to build and sell a car at a Joe Sixpack price.
cobraman Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 I have to wonder with the low gas prices how many people will now go out and buy vehicles that get poor gas mileage only to cry when the gas goes back up again. Don't know if it is true or not but I heard on the radio that the barrel now costs more than the oil that goes in it.
SfanGoch Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Tesla needs to get their act together and offer a car or two that mere mortals like me can actually afford to buy! I mean, the cars they have are absolutely gorgeous, with amazing performance. But I'm not one of those who can afford to spend 80 grand on a car... If they ever want to become a mainstream car maker and not just a niche player, they're going to have to figure out a way to build and sell a car at a Joe Sixpack price. The only way that might happen is if Tesla scales up Ideal Toy Corp.'s old Motorific line. The average wage slave will be hard pressed to buy a car in the future at the rate the sticker prices are rising. The average pre-tax income in the U.S. is $53,657. The average sticker price for a new car is $33,560. Edited January 31, 2016 by SfanGoch
Harry P. Posted January 31, 2016 Author Posted January 31, 2016 It wasn't all that long ago that the average price of a new house was $33,000...
Rob Hall Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Tesla has the Model 3 coming in a couple years, it will be their entry level model at around $35k, competitive with other electric cars like the Leaf, Focus Electric, etc..
SfanGoch Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 Tesla has the Model 3 coming in a couple years, it will be their entry level model at around $35k, competitive with other electric cars like the Leaf, Focus Electric, etc.. BFD. The problem with electric vehicles is the method of recharging the batteries. As of the present, one has to either have a giant plug installed in their house to plug into the car, reminiscent of Hot Wheels Sizzlers; or, if you're a city rat, find a recharging station, again a la Sizzlers. Good luck with that. With all of the money pissed away on R&D, they still haven't figured out how to charge the batteries while the car is operating? Of course, the more resourceful apartment-dwelling denizens can be creative by popping the kick plate off the nearest streetlamp and tap the municipal lines, like we used to do to in order to get juice for the stereos we brought to the park for music during keg parties back in the '70s.
Rob Hall Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) There was a company (Better Place) a few years ago that was working on a hot-swappable model for car batteries, but it didn't pan out and they went bust Their idea was to pull into a garage/car wash style drive-thru, push a button and under the car an robot arm would yank the old battery and put in a new one..required lots of costly infrastructure and garages...they had a working pilot program w/ a fleet of Renault electric sedans in Israel.I like the concept of electric cars, esp. in large metro areas, but I'm not sure I'd buy one anytime soon. Hard to beat the go anywhere/anytime simplicity of ICE cars.. Edited February 1, 2016 by Rob Hall
SfanGoch Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 It wasn't all that long ago that the average price of a new house was $33,000... That was around nineteen eleventy-two, give or take a century. Everybody needs to buy diesel powered vehicles. You can run them on No.2 heating oil with no ill effects. Get yerself a cap wrench, some hose and a hand pump and you can refill from your neighbor's storage tank. Make sure they're not home, though. Some people can't take a joke.
Harry P. Posted February 1, 2016 Author Posted February 1, 2016 That was around nineteen eleventy-two, give or take a century. Actually it was the mid '70s.
Tom Geiger Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 about a year ago I visited Eastern Interconnection, the conglomerate that runs the power grid on the east half of the US and Canada. Their presentation shared some things they were working on, as well as futures. Their plan for the future of cars and the electric grid is that they will be interconnected. Electricity will be transmitted wireless, so they will be able to feed your electric car as you drive. Cars will all have roofs made of solar panels that will absorb energy to the cars batteries all day when you are parked. The electric grid will use all the cars as storage cells. They will know your routine so they'll know when it's okay to tap your stored electricity, as long as they replace it before you leave work, or feed you as you drive home. Pretty interesting stuff. They had an all electric Mini Cooper, part of their test fleet, in the lobby.
SfanGoch Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 Today, 33 Grand will cover a little over 4 years' worth of common charges for a $925,000, 699 sq.ft. 1BR (3 rooms incl. BR) condo unit on the Williamsburg waterfront. Like, Yah.....
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 As someone who's actually been hands-on involved in the alt-fuel bit from time to time...off and on since the mid 1970s...I'm just always amazed that this is still even an issue. The technology has existed to end our dependence on fossil fuels for decades, natural gas was the perfect bridge-fuel to get there, and nobody so far has done diddly to make it happen on a large scale.I've got fed up and walked away from the alt-fuel game several times, because, like most human endeavors now, it's mostly endless meetings, conferences, hand-wringing, and cover-your-butt-blame-spreading-in-case-there's-a-problem-down-the-road.There is, apparently, no will to change and no individual or small group of motivated individuals (in positions of power) who have the brains and guts to pull it all together.All electric cars do at this point is to centralize emissions. The real energy numbers just aren't that good, but there's a widespread belief that somehow electrics will fix everything. Dig deep into it, do the research, do the math, don't be swayed by "experts" pontificating on things they don't understand and media and political spin-doctors, and you can see for yourselves.Yeah, right.Let the whining continue.
SfanGoch Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 Let the whining continue. If whining could be used as an alternative energy source, we'd be riding on Easy Street.
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