MrBuick Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 The sad truth is, there's far too much "coincidence" going on to avoid high suspicion. There are two different forums where extremely new members who registered very closely together are pretty much immediately trying to trade and sell kits upon registration...the user DrDevil72 has already scammed people on this forum and has been caught here using different names, different accounts, and different IP addresses, and NOW someone on a different forum is tied to one of Devil's aliases and appears to be starting cycle all over again there. If you're legitimately not the same person or affiliated with that person, you have every right to be upset and I'm sure everyone here would gladly apologize, but the unfortunate truth is that pretty much everyone is suspect of you and you've done nothing to ease that suspicion.
CFMgarage Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 Couldn't have said it better myself. Everyone on this forum is on high alert at the moment. If you are legit, you have our apologies, but for now trust runs on numbers and statistics. I wish it could have been under better circumstances, but welcome to the board. Plus to add fuel to the fire (I think that's the expression)...he joined 6 February (almost identical time as DrDevil) and only started posting THE DAY DrDevil disappeared... Like I said *disclaimer* I am not accusing anyone...
bismarck Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 Plus to add fuel to the fire (I think that's the expression)...he joined 6 February (almost identical time as DrDevil) and only started posting THE DAY DrDevil disappeared... Like I said *disclaimer* I am not accusing anyone... Hence my "numbers and statistics" quote.
Classicgas Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 I did and he doesn't know what I am talking about. 1
Ace-Garageguy Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 You all really need to watch out for trying to hang a man on only circumstantial evidence.Overwhelming PROOF of guilt is normally required before someone is convicted and sentenced in a court of law, and there's a reason for that. Even then, mistakes are made and innocent people get screwed.We KNOW Dr. D is a POS based on first-hand knowledge of his conduct, but until the IP addresses of the accused are run down (which can help to determine where the activity is originating from geographically), and whatever other verification can be brought in here, it would be best to withhold judgement.This is why I asked if the OP was absolutely POSITIVE the accused is the same guy, and apparently there's room for doubt.One of the things this country is supposed to stand for is the concept of "innocent until proven guilty".
BIGTRUCK Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 I'm not sure but isn't every ones IP address pretty much their fingerprint on the web?
Ace-Garageguy Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) I'm not sure but isn't every ones IP address pretty much their fingerprint on the web?Yes, but you can always use a different computer or hide behind a proxy. This is computer crime basic 101. Edited March 28, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy
bismarck Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) It all may just boil down to bad timing when Fred signed up. If so, he landed up to his eyebrows in a hornets nest thanks to this DrDevil POS. I don't know if he was or wasn't involved. I just know that I don't have a dog in this hunt. I wasn't one of DrDevils victims. These guys have a very valid reason to be pissed. Edited March 28, 2016 by bismarck
BIGTRUCK Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 Yes, but you can always use a different computer. Dang loopholes
DrKerry Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 Couldn't have said it better myself. Everyone on this forum is on high alert at the moment. If you are legit, you have our apologies, but for now trust runs on numbers and statistics. I wish it could have been under better circumstances, but welcome to the board. That's exactely what's happened, people are a bit apprehensive right now. Hopefully it'll calm down but like what's been said contact an admin and show proof to them and put it to rest...... If you're not this DrDevil, apologies will be in order........
bismarck Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Would using WiFi hotspots like malls and restaurants give different IP addresses? I may be looking at this wrong cuz I am by NO means a computer expert, but could this guy have used public access on different terminals in a border area to hop around like that? Like a public library or something? Edited March 28, 2016 by bismarck
MrBuick Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 I'm not sure but isn't every ones IP address pretty much their fingerprint on the web?Technically their MAC address is their digital fingerprint...it can be spoofed as well, but is much more difficult to "fake" or hide than an IP address is and requires someone with a lot more technical skill to successfully pull off. The IP address is more like a lease on a shipping address....look at it as a package is being sent to an address (their public IP issued by the router), but the receiver is unknown (the receiver would be the MAC address). Unfortunately, most of the time the server logs for IIS or Tomcat (or whatever web hosting service is used) will have the MAC address logs, but the site administrators normally only have access to the IP addresses, which are easy to fake, change or hide.
MrBuick Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 Would using WiFi hotspots like malls and restaurants give different IP addresses? I may be looking at this wrong cuz I am by NO means a computer expert, but could this guy have used public access on different terminals in a border area to hop around like that? Like a public library or something?Absolutely, but a little of it depends on how deeply the site looks for the IP. You actually have 2 IP addresses when you use an internet connected device...the Private IP is used within the network you're currently connected to, and the Public IP, which is assigned to the DHCP server for said network (in most cases, the router). So, if the site looks for a Public IP (99% chance it does), it'll see the same IP even if the user bounces around between computers on the same network, but if they connect to various networks (physically or via Proxy), it would change. It's also easy to change your public IP address, because it's leased from the ISP unless you pay for a static address (one that won't change), so sometimes it'll change if you power cycle the router, and most routers also have a built-in way to release the lease on an address and request a new one from the ISP.
Harry P. Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 "Classicgas" looks to be a new screen name being used by a former member who was banned. So "Classicgas" has been locked out from posting.This whole DrDevil/chopperlover/Classicgas thing is getting on my nerves. My suspicion is that it's all one person using multiple accounts. I can't prove that, but from what I have dug up, it sure looks like that. So to be on the safe side, I locked him out for the sake of the forum.
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