Possible box art for the Revell '30 Model A Coupe

[DanR]

My apologies if this has already been posted. I found this on Hobby Link Japan's site and thought you all might be interested.

- Dan

[stavanzer]

Those Wheels and that blown Small Block are going on my '29 Roadster.

[Nova-ss]

this model interests me.the roadster didn't. want to see more on this one....Chris 

[Greg Myers]

You said it Dave 

[Ace-Garageguy]

Just a couple points, those "implement" tires on the front never came with whitewalls to the best of my knowledge. I don't think those rear tires would have either. 

Couple points regarding your couple points...there's some confusion about the "implement tires" on old rods. Though those straight-tread tires LOOK like implement tires, they're actually purpose-built dirt-track tires. They were popular on the lakes cars, where actual "implement" tires would have disintegrated at speed. See below.

                                      

Far as the whitewalls go, some of the old race-car tires were recaps built on used carcasses, so it actually might have been possible to see both the ribbed fronts and the block-tread rears with 'factory' whitewalls. That's why you see a lot of vintage photos showing early "piecrust" slicks with whitewalls. 

                                                    

There were (and still are) also things called "Portawalls" (see above) that let you put whitewalls on just about anything. Another full-scale option was / is rubber "whitewall paint". Really. 

 

Edited April 14, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy

[DrKerry]

I took some photos of the test shot at the Milwaukee NNL this past weekend. This is a nice looking kit...... Will post some pics later!!!!

[tim boyd]

this model interests me.the roadster didn't. want to see more on this one....Chris 

For those that missed the earlier post, here are the details (so far) on the new kit....TIM   http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/topic/111545-a-detailed-preview-of-revells-upcoming-30a-chopped-five-window-hot-rod-no-pictures/

[Spex84]

Kerry- very interested in seeing those!

 

[DrKerry]

Here's what Revell had on display... Cannot wait for this to come out....

Bare bones or rolled and pleated interiors.

Edited April 15, 2016 by DrKerry

[Jon Cole]

this model interests me.the roadster didn't. want to see more on this one....Chris 

x 2.

[Dave Darby]

Couple points regarding your couple points...there's some confusion about the "implement tires" on old rods. Though those straight-tread tires LOOK like implement tires, they're actually purpose-built dirt-track tires. They were popular on the lakes cars, where actual "implement" tires would have disintegrated at speed. See below.

                                      

Far as the whitewalls go, some of the old race-car tires were recaps built on used carcasses, so it actually might have been possible to see both the ribbed fronts and the block-tread rears with 'factory' whitewalls. That's why you see a lot of vintage photos showing early "piecrust" slicks with whitewalls. 

                                                    

There were (and still are) also things called "Portawalls" (see above) that let you put whitewalls on just about anything. Another full-scale option was / is rubber "whitewall paint". Really. 

 

That's why I put Implement in quotes. I know they aren't actual implement tires, that's just what most people refer to them as. Regardless, I've never seen any with whitewalls, and it just makes it look like someone didn't know what they were doing. Kinda like the amateurish graphics on the box art. Case in point; it's so bad that a lot of people didn't even believe the 57 Ford Gasser was real box art. It's not as bad as that scary LSD trip stuff RC2 was doing around 2006 or whenever, but it still isn't very good. (And my apologies if anyone here on this board did that work. It's just constructive criticism.)  Anyway, I see a lot of old school goodness in that parts inventory.

[Ace-Garageguy]

That's why I put Implement in quotes. I know they aren't actual implement tires, that's just what most people refer to them as. Regardless, I've never seen any with whitewalls...

Well, now more people know they're not actually "implement" tires. Just trying to correct misinformation, one little bit at a time.  

Far as whitewalls go, of course you can't tell from these photos if these front tires are recapped with straight tread grooves, but they COULD have been...or the tires could have been painted (unlikely, but possible) or they could be passenger car takeoffs. The point is...whitewall casings COULD have been capped with straight-grooved rubber. Hurst STILL builds re-capped racing tires on used vintage casings.  http://www.realrodderswheels.biz/TIRES.htm

There are a LOT of things I've never seen, but that doesn't prove they never existed. 

       

                                          

 

 

 

Edited April 15, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy

[Greg Myers]

and the weird and wonderful  

[Dave Darby]

I'm not going to say never in the history of 'implement' tires have their ever been any, but those instances are pretty rare. So to my eyes, they look a little weird and overdone with them. And speaking of to my eyes, I probably came off a little harsh on the box art. First off, the builds are first rate. My issue, as it were is with the graphics. For the type of culture and era these two subjects represent (the 30 A Coupe and 57 gasser), the graphics should be be more of a retro flavor. The beveling and embossing (Making the lettering and rivets (what do we need rivets for anyway?) 3-D and metal looking) just smacks of Neo Retro to me. Like they plastered an erector set on the box.  Don't get me wrong. I used a very complicated, layered version of the bevel and emboss/metallic technique quite a few years ago when I created this logo... (and cover)

Obviously Model Cars Magazine has a new cover logo now, and quite frankly, I like it. In fact, it's closer to what Revell should be using for those boxes.

Consider this vibe... (Still a bit overstated, but more retro)

Or this (Very fitting)...

So, not to pick on Revell/Monogram, but I just think the box graphics are overdone, and take away from the models, which should be the focus. But again, that is just my opinion, and it doesn't take away from the model kits in question. There will be multiples of each in my stash. But great box art DOES grab your heart strings, and thereby your purse strings. Would it make a difference in this case? Who knows? Anyway, that's just my take. There are a lot of guys out there who enjoy making faux box art, to varying degrees of... um quality. This pair made more than one person think it was one of those.

Edited April 15, 2016 by Dave Darby

[stavanzer]

Your Critique makes much more sense now, Dave. The rivets don't bother me since they refer to the WW2/Bomber 'vibe' that the Olive Drab car is pushing.

I think that is the Tie-in that Revell is trying for.

The White Walls don't bother me as much either. I've seen period photos from the forties of German, American and Soviet equipment with WW's. Oddest was the German Bomb Loading cart, with a 10" front tire with WW's and a Soviet Artillery piece with them too. I've seen several pics of P-51 Mustangs with Whites on the Main Tires, Tail Wheel Tires or all three. It was very much a "Style" thing for some of the pilots.

[Spex84]

The whole kit is neo-traditional...the top insert, the blown smallblock, the halibrands, the lake pipes, the buick finned brake drums, the 'skeleton' interior, bomber seats...so if they include a whitewall option (I'd guess they're probably going to be decals rather than pad-printed), then it fits the neo-retro styling and that's just fine. Personally I wouldn't use whitewalls on a tire like that. Those whitewall decals can be used on something else.

I  think the various text blocks are a little crowded and awkwardly spaced, if I'm going to criticize   Here's my quick hack version:

[Greg Myers]

 But great box art DOES grab your heart strings, and thereby your purse strings. Would it make a difference in this case? Who knows?

 

[mrm]

I'll buy multiples of this kit even if it comes packed in old newspapers. 

I guess people ran out of things to b!tch about with Revell's new releases, so they turned their attention to the box art. 

Its a hot rod and it is not pretending to be anything else. The best part is that it is giving a myriad of options to the builder, including white wall tires if the builder's imagination calls for them. And I think the box art - with all of its "shortcomings"- shows that perfectly. And after all that is all that it needs to do. My ten year old by the way, thinks its awesome….

[Ace-Garageguy]

I'll buy multiples of this kit even if it comes packed in old newspapers. 

X2      ...though I certainly agree with Greg that the style of box art for the '55 Chevy kit above is WAY more evocative, and STILL makes me want to buy that kit.  

Edited April 16, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy