New 3D Printed Wheels From Scale Motorsport

[Quick GMC]

Thought you guys would like these. A little pricey, but they look pretty awesome. 

Torq Thrusts: 

Bigs: http://www.scalemotorsport.com/3d-printed-torque-thrust-wheel-set-1-bigs.html

Littles: http://www.scalemotorsport.com/3d-printed-torque-thrust-wheel-set-1-littles.html

 

Halibrands: 

Bigs: http://www.scalemotorsport.com/3d-printed-torque-thrust-wheel-set-1-bigs-323.html

Littles: http://www.scalemotorsport.com/3d-printed-billet-wheel-set-1-littles.html

 

[Roncla]

I had been looking at them but when I saw the price was only for a pair I moved on.

[Ace-Garageguy]

I think the price is entirely reasonable considering you get machined rims, PE centers that appear to correctly represent machined centers on as-cast spokes, what looks like lug nuts, a good representation of the wheel bearing / center cap machined as part of the stub axle AND a 3D printed spoke section.

The only gripe I have is the somewhat vague sizing on the site page:

Bigs are 1:24th scale

Littles are 1:25th scale

It would be nice if the exact dimensions were given so the buyer could determine the scale diameter and width, and decide if they accurately filled his needs, and what tires would be appropriate.

Edited April 15, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy

[Foxer]

The only gripe I have is the somewhat vague sizing on the site page:

Bigs are 1:24th scale

Littles are 1:25th scale

It would be nice if the exact dimensions were given so the buyer could determine the scale diameter and width, and decide if they accurately filled his needs, and what tires would be appropriate.

This really bothers me, but I won't be a customer because of it. Someone thinks it's cost effective to just print the same 3D file at two scales rather than rescale the file for two different sizes. Now they still have to make the rims in two different sizes that will scale to different size rims. Maybe this is correct for big/littles ... one industry standard rim and one magically scalled up to a non standard rim fitting no known tire size.

Good luck finding tires for these.

[TooOld]

I think the price is entirely reasonable considering you get machined rims, PE centers that appear to correctly represent machined centers on as-cast spokes, what looks like lug nuts, a good representation of the wheel bearing / center cap machined as part of the stub axle AND a 3D printed spoke section.

The only gripe I have is the somewhat vague sizing on the site page:

Bigs are 1:24th scale

Littles are 1:25th scale

It would be nice if the exact dimensions were given so the buyer could determine the scale diameter and width, and decide if they accurately filled his needs, and what tires would be appropriate.

I agree Bill  ,  I'd be interested in tryng a set of these .  I'm not going to jump to any conclusions about rim sizes , I'll just ask for exact sizes from ScaleMotorsports . When I get a reply from them I'll post the sizes here .  Problem solved .

[crazyjim]

Nice, but where do you get tires for the wheels?

[astroracer]

 They will sell a few but, part of the job of marketing these, is letting the customer know what tires the wheels will work with. When I developed this style of aftermarket rim (Turned aluminum rings with photo-etched centers) back in '94 I made the trim rings to fit the readily available kit tires. If any of you have one of my old catalogs you know there is a chart listing the rim sizes and tires they fit. This is part of the job when designing and manufacturing these parts.

If you guys want to see the tires that work you should holler at the guys who make the rims... Have them include the sizes in their ad. As they should be.

Mark (Machined Aluminum Specialties)

I also developed a couple of 3D printed wheel AND tire designs (the thread is on the site) but never went any farther because I knew the price would not be in line with the "free or darn close to it" price most modelers want to pay... Sorry but that's the truth and most of you know it...

Edited April 15, 2016 by astroracer

[TooOld]

I received this reply from ScaleMotorsports :

Bob

Thanks for your interest in our new 3D printed wheel sets. The sizes of the wheels were designed to fit any 1:24th or 1:25th size tire, meaning the Bigs are for 1:24th scale and the littles are for 1:25th scale, you can mix or match them so your build would have Littles on the front and bigs on the rear. The OD for the Bigs is .670 and the OD for the Littles are .640

We have test fitted them on dozens of tires from Revell and Monogram and they all fit great!

 

And later I received this reply :

Bob

I've gone ahead and added the outside dimensions for both the Bigs and Littles to each website product page. 

Bigs = .670

Littles = .620

Hopefully that will be exactly what everyone is looking!

Thanks very much for the feedback!

Best regards:

Matthew Wells

Scale Motorsport

"Be A Builder"

 

[Ace-Garageguy]

Good of you to go to the trouble of emailing and posting the numbers, good of them to respond and volunteer to post the dimensions on the website.

Thanks to all.  

However, this particular sentence doesn't really make much sense, as it fails to acknowledge that scale tires come in a wide variety of scale diameters.

          "The sizes of the wheels were designed to fit any 1:24th or 1:25th size tire, meaning the Bigs are for 1:24th scale and the littles are for 1:25th scale"

Doing the numbers from the given diameters, for 1/25 scale the .670" "bigs" would be about scale 16" wheels, and the .640" "littles" about scale 15" wheels (subtracting roughly one scale inch from the OD of each wheel)

 

Edited April 16, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy

[Quick GMC]

I also emailed and received a prompt reply, and they have added the dimensions to the product pages. Bob beat me to it. 

 

Scale Motorsport has always had great customer service. 

[Pete J.]

Ok, this is all a tempest in a teapot!  1:24-1:25 is irrelevant.  All that matters is the diameter of the rim and the inside diameter of your tires.  I just went out to my stash of old tires and found a dozen that would work.  Some a little tighter that others but they would work.  Some of them were even 1:20 scale(F1 tires) and would work great if you want some supersized slicks.  It is just annoying how some people get so engrossed in "scale" when it comes down to what will fit and to expect a company to list all the available tires that will fit is unrealistic.  If you are looking through your stash to find something that will fit, then measuring them isn't that hard.

[Ace-Garageguy]

Ok, this is all a tempest in a teapot!  1:24-1:25 is irrelevant.  All that matters is the diameter of the rim and the inside diameter of your tires.  I just went out to my stash of old tires and found a dozen that would work.  Some a little tighter that others but they would work.  Some of them were even 1:20 scale(F1 tires) and would work great if you want some supersized slicks.  It is just annoying how some people get so engrossed in "scale" when it comes down to what will fit and to expect a company to list all the available tires that will fit is unrealistic.  If you are looking through your stash to find something that will fit, then measuring them isn't that hard.

Which is EXACTLY the comment, in essence, I made originally. What "scale" they're made for means nothing. NOTHING.

I asked for, and received (through TooOld) exact dimensions...which had NOT been previously posted. The website has had the dimensions added as well. The comment thereon as to "scale" is totally irrelevant and meaningless, as you say.

I'm missing the "tempest in a teapot" part.  Seems to me the problem was solved several posts earlier. 

HOWEVER...if one IS trying to make a particular diameter wheel in a particular scale, taking the dimensions and doing the math is the only way to know what you've got...which is why I posted the SCALE EQUIVALENT diameters for 1/25.   

I also missed the part where you state "some people get so engrossed in "scale" when it comes down to what will fit and to expect a company to list all the available tires that will fit".

HUH ?

ALL anybody asked for was exact dimensions, and we got 'em.

Edited April 16, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy

[Foxer]

Cheers for Scale Motorsport responding so quickly and putting dimensions everywhere!

[TooOld]

Pete J is correct that the scale is irrelevant , and Ace-Garageguy is also correct that the way the wheels were originally listed didn't make any sense .  Both problems were solved when the actual sizes were added to the website .

I'm not pointing a finger but this kind of petty bickering is exactly why I've been absent from this forum for some time .  I suspect that I'm not the only one who's disappeared because of this . Please guys , shake hands and let's just help each other and enjoy the hobby . 

 

[Modlguy]

I bought a set yesterday at NNL East. They look awesome. I got a set of 1/24 "bigs" for the rear and 1/25 "littles for the front. That's basically the way Matt looks at them. He is also considering casting them without color because they come out with better detail and I would expect the modelers would prefer that. No?

[Ace-Garageguy]

Pete J is correct that the scale is irrelevant , and Ace-Garageguy is also correct that the way the wheels were originally listed didn't make any sense .  Both problems were solved when the actual sizes were added to the website .

I'm not pointing a finger but this kind of petty bickering is exactly why I've been absent from this forum for some time .  I suspect that I'm not the only one who's disappeared because of this . Please guys , shake hands and let's just help each other and enjoy the hobby . 

 

Here's a 100% bickering-free response. I hope everyone has a lovely day. 

 

 

Edited April 17, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy

[Roncla]

Here's a 100% bickering-free response. I hope everyone has a lovely day. 

 

 

  

[TooOld]

 

 

 

I received my wheels from Scale Motorsports today and they are indeed very nice .  One extra bit of info for everybody is that not only are the rims machined in two different sizes but the wheel centers are in fact two different sizes too .