StevenGuthmiller Posted August 21, 2016 Author Posted August 21, 2016 Go outside the box. Use the RT emblems from the Revell 68-69 Charger and make it a stripe delete. Hey now! I kind of like that idea! It would definitely be unusual, & I like unusual! Steve
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 21, 2016 Author Posted August 21, 2016 Got some color on this afternoon. The color is good, although possibly a shade lighter than I expected. A little more orange peel than I was hoping for as well, but the paint will level a bit more as it cures. I'll possibly do the scripts on the trunk lid tonight & shoot the final color coat tomorrow. Then it's clear coats. Steve
kelson Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 That looks nice!,i'm sure adding clear coats will darken the color a bit
Mike Chernecki Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 Looks awesome, good job. The color looks the way I remember F5 green, it just needs a dark green vinyl top
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 22, 2016 Author Posted August 22, 2016 Ok, so I am of the understanding that the Coronet R/T was not available with the Six Pack engine in '69?I guess the Six Pack came along late in the year for the Super Bee.Well, my original thought was to use the 440 Six Pack right from the '70 Super Bee kit as long as I was already pilfering 75% of the parts from it anyway.If any of you can convince me that there wasn't the possibility of a few Six Pack motors making their way into a few R/Ts in '69, then I guess I'll have to make the decision between the Hemi, or the 440 4bbl from the Revell '68 Charger kit. Steve
gtx6970 Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 1969 Coronet RT was 440 single 4 barrel or Hemi only....no exceptions In 1969 six pack was roadrunner and superbee ONLY
gtx6970 Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 Now. With that said. Could one have been dealer and /or owner installed....?.Sure....but ive not seen any documented example
Snake45 Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 Now. With that said. Could one have been dealer and /or owner installed....?.Sure....but ive not seen any documented example Hey, it's only plastic, and it's YOUR plastic. There's no law against building it "Day Two" or in any other style you like, as long as you don't try to pawn it off on somebody as "factory stock." There's a guy in my town who has a beautifully restored turquoise '68 Coronet R/T which looks like it just came off the showroom floor...except for the '69 Six Pack hood, which is painted body color. He just likes the look of it that way. It's quite disconcerting at first, but you eventually get used to the look. It DOES look pretty badass.
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 22, 2016 Author Posted August 22, 2016 Now. With that said. Could one have been dealer and /or owner installed....?.Sure....but ive not seen any documented example Hey, it's only plastic, and it's YOUR plastic. There's no law against building it "Day Two" or in any other style you like, as long as you don't try to pawn it off on somebody as "factory stock." There's a guy in my town who has a beautifully restored turquoise '68 Coronet R/T which looks like it just came off the showroom floor...except for the '69 Six Pack hood, which is painted body color. He just likes the look of it that way. It's quite disconcerting at first, but you eventually get used to the look. It DOES look pretty badass.Well, I'd prefer to stick with as stock as possible.I just know what it was like back in these days.I remember my folks ordering new cars in the early 70s & basically, the sky was the limit.As long as your pockets were deep enough, if they had it at the plant, you could order it.Just seems unlikely that some guy walking into a Dodge dealership with a wad of cash in hand would be turned away if he really wanted an R/T with the Six Pack manifold, carbs & air cleaner added.Seems as if it might have been a pretty easy thing to have added right from the factory. Steve
1972coronet Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 The 1969 1/2 Super Bee was the only way to get the "M" code 440 Six Pack . One couldn't even order disc brakes ; the only options were : TorqueFlite or 18 spine 4 speed ; coupe or hardtop, and a few other items . All of them had a Dana 60 ,regardless. With that in mind ; who's to say that the owner of a 1969 Coronet R/T didn't pick up an Edelbrock intake and Holley 2300s from Hustle Stuff (predecessor to Direct Connection) ?
Snake45 Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 Well there's the matter of, will the 6-pack setup fit under the stock hood? Sounds silly, but I can name you a few model cases where this has been a problem.That said, here's what I'd do in your situation. I'd find a second hood, and put the 6-pack scoop on it, and paint it black. I'd build both the 6-pack AND the 4-bbl induction setups for the engine and not glue either on. Switchers! And then you can have it either way--stock or phantom--as the mood strikes you.Well, anyway, that's what I'd do....
Sport Suburban Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 Also the Six Pack cars were a mid year introduction and were selling so well Edelbrock could not make the intakes fast enough. So I don't see how any dealers could get the parts in 69 as they were all going to production first. To fix the supply problem Mopar cast the manifold in iron for 70 and opened up the option to more vehicles as it was more popular than they originally imagined.
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 22, 2016 Author Posted August 22, 2016 The 1969 1/2 Super Bee was the only way to get the "M" code 440 Six Pack .Also the Six Pack cars were a mid year introduction and were selling so well Edelbrock could not make the intakes fast enough. So I don't see how any dealers could get the parts in 69 as they were all going to production first.Thanks guys!that all makes sense & answers my question.Now I'll just have to make a decision between the 440 4bbl, & the Hemi. Well there's the matter of, will the 6-pack setup fit under the stock hood? Sounds silly, but I can name you a few model cases where this has been a problem. I can't imagine that there would be a problem with the 6 Pack fitting under the hood Richard.The engine I was going to use was coming directly from the '70 Super Bee kit along with all of the corresponding chassis & under hood parts.The '70 hood is almost completely flat & the '69 has the hood "bulge" in the center, so if anything, I would think there should be a little bit of extra space for an intake.But at this point it really doesn't matter.I'll most likely use the 4 bbl 440 from the Revell Charger kit, or at least the intake. Thanks again guys! Steve
om617 Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 1969-and-a-half saw the addition of option code A12 to the Coronet Super Bee option list: the 440 Six Pack engine package. It replaced the 383 with a 440 treated to an aluminum Edelbrock intake topped by three Holley two-barrels, with a scooped, matte black, pin-on fiberglass hood with SIX PACK in big red letters on the scoop’s sides.From hereYou could just skip the matte black hood.
Ron Hamilton Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 There was a fellow in the neighborhood who had a '70 Coronet R/T with the 440 Six Pack option. It had the Ramcharger hood with the ram air package, which was also available on the '69. While I did mine as a 440 Magmum with the track pak option, it could be possible to combine the six pack manifold, with the Ramcharger hood, as a factory test mule, or a "dealer installed" item sanctioned by the factory. Just a possibility. Back ok in the day, Dodge had some wild sleeper cars roaming the street.
Mike Chernecki Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 I would go with the 440 4bbl since you have the correct power bulge hood. I believe when you ordered a Hemi it came with the twin scoop ram air hood.
Snake45 Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 There was a fellow in the neighborhood who had a '70 Coronet R/T with the 440 Six Pack option. It had the Ramcharger hood with the ram air package, which was also available on the '69. While I did mine as a 440 Magmum with the track pak option, it could be possible to combine the six pack manifold, with the Ramcharger hood, as a factory test mule, or a "dealer installed" item sanctioned by the factory. Just a possibility. Back ok in the day, Dodge had some wild sleeper cars roaming the street. But remember, you show up at the drag strip with that setup and even with stock exhaust manifolds, street tires, and buttoned-up mufflers you'd go direct from Pure Stock to Modified Production class.
gtx6970 Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 I would go with the 440 4bbl since you have the correct power bulge hood. I believe when you ordered a Hemi it came with the twin scoop ram air hood.ramcharger hood was still optional
Ron Hamilton Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 But remember, you show up at the drag strip with that setup and even with stock exhaust manifolds, street tires, and buttoned-up mufflers you'd go direct from Pure Stock to Modified Production class. But of course you do, because it was not officially offered from the factory in that configuration. But on the street, WOW!!!!!
Ron Hamilton Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 I would go with the 440 4bbl since you have the correct power bulge hood. I believe when you ordered a Hemi it came with the twin scoop ram air hood.You are absolutely right Mike. When MPC originally tooled up the '68 Coronet R/T, the "Power Bulge" hood was the only game in town on the model in the one to one world with either the 440 Magnum, or the 426 Hemi. When MPC created their model kit, the Hemi was the engine included, and it was correct for the application. While it was quite possible that Dodge built a few Hemi equipped Coronet R/T cars with the Power Bulge, a huge majority of them came out of the factory with the "Ramcharger" ram air set up, and that is what was listed as standard equipment on the car. The MPC '69 Coronet R/T kit as equipped with the power bulge may not necessarily be incorrect, but maybe as an early production car. When I was a kid, I had a '69 Coronet R/T kit which I built. I wish I had that one back, but I built one a few years ago, and I am quite happy with it.
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 23, 2016 Author Posted August 23, 2016 From hereYou could just skip the matte black hood.I had no plans of going the Super Bee route.The Super Bee didn't have the R/T hood bulge & the tail light treatment was different.I would just go with the old Momogram kit for a Super Bee.I would go with the 440 4bbl since you have the correct power bulge hood. I believe when you ordered a Hemi it came with the twin scoop ram air hood.That's where I believe I'm headed Mike. Steve
High octane Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 I had no plans of going the Super Bee route.The Super Bee didn't have the R/T hood bulge & the tail light treatment was different.I would just go with the old Momogram kit for a Super Bee.That's where I believe I'm headed Mike. SteveThe '69 Super Bee did come with the Power Bulge hood, and the '69 1/2 Super Bee had the Six Pack hood.
High octane Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Go outside the box. Use the RT emblems from the Revell 68-69 Charger and make it a stripe delete. I prefer the stripe.....................................................
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