StevenGuthmiller Posted September 27, 2016 Author Posted September 27, 2016 Just in case anyone is wondering, I have to confess something.You'll notice that there are no "directional lights" on the top of the fenders & no chrome fender well trim.For some reason, my kit did not have the fender well trim when I got it.I'm assuming that the previous owner trimmed it off for some reason.The directional lights were there, but were chipped up & I thought it would look better without them rather than trying to fix or replace them.I kind of like the look without those extra chrome pieces anyway.Gives it a little more of a "utilitarian" look, which was kind of what I was shooting for with this build.No bells & whistles, hence the omission of the bumble bee stripe.Now, that said, I don't know how accurate these 2 omissions make the car.Anyone know if the 1:1 could be had without these 2 features in '69?Most factory stock cars that I've seen have the fender trim, but the turn signals are sporadic.I have seen a few cars without the fender well trim, but don't know how accurate they were. Steve
High octane Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 Just in case anyone is wondering, I have to confess something.You'll notice that there are no "directional lights" on the top of the fenders & no chrome fender well trim.For some reason, my kit did not have the fender well trim when I got it.I'm assuming that the previous owner trimmed it off for some reason.The directional lights were there, but were chipped up & I thought it would look better without them rather than trying to fix or replace them.I kind of like the look without those extra chrome pieces anyway.Gives it a little more of a "utilitarian" look, which was kind of what I was shooting for with this build.No bells & whistles, hence the omission of the bumble bee stripe.Now, that said, I don't know how accurate these 2 omissions make the car.Anyone know if the 1:1 could be had without these 2 features in '69?Most factory stock cars that I've seen have the fender trim, but the turn signals are sporadic.I have seen a few cars without the fender well trim, but don't know how accurate they were. SteveThose fender mounted turn signals were optional and did not come standard with either the Super Bee or the Coronet R/T, as I know from personal experience. Yes, I just love dem Mopars!
gtx6970 Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Great ideas guys! I do like the idea of something a little different & the dog dish caps have become anything but different. I've always liked the look of the Magnum wheels, but they are pretty much old news. The deluxe caps look like a cool idea, but at this point Mike, I don't think I want to invest any more into this project. I do have a '69 Dart kit, but if the caps aren't correct, I'll let that one go. On the other hand, the recall wheels are intriguing! I'll have to give that some very serious thought! I have an old built MPC '69 Barracuda, but the wheels aren't in great shape any more. So Bill, if the offer stands, I may very well be interested in the recall wheels if you're willing to part with them. Maybe I should just send this kit to you for finishing! You seem to have all of the ideas that never cross my mind! I'll PM you. Steve The AO1 light pkg was optional. But am pretty sure wheel lip mouldings as well as rocker mldgs were standard on an R/T
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 28, 2016 Author Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) The AO1 light pkg was optional. But am pretty sure wheel lip mouldings as well as rocker mldgs were standard on an R/T That's kind of what I was thinking. Which is why I was a little baffled to see pictures like this. Steve Edited September 28, 2016 by StevenGuthmiller
gtx6970 Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Just ckd, both wheel lip and rocker mouldings were standard equipment on a 1969 Coronet R/T . Thats not to say the restorer didn't like them ( or didn't have them ) and just decided to leave them off.http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1969/69_Coronet0021.jpg
High octane Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 The wheel lip trim is easy to get, however I had heard that the rocker mouldings are hard to come by.
Rider Posted September 29, 2016 Posted September 29, 2016 This is one killer build, the interior is fantastic.
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 29, 2016 Author Posted September 29, 2016 Just ckd, both wheel lip and rocker mouldings were standard equipment on a 1969 Coronet R/T . Thats not to say the restorer didn't like them ( or didn't have them ) and just decided to leave them off. http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1969/69_Coronet0021.jpg I see by the list Bill, that the bumble bee stripe was also standard. Now, if I'm doing this as a stripe delete, my question would be, if you could get it without the stripe, do you think you could get it without the wheel trim? Because that's my story, & I'm stickin' to it. Steve
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 29, 2016 Author Posted September 29, 2016 This is one killer build, the interior is fantastic. Thanks Lloyd! I'm still seriously considering dumping that shifter for something a little more in scale looking. Every time I look at that "chunky" thing, I think it's gotta go! Steve
randyc Posted September 29, 2016 Posted September 29, 2016 I see by the list Bill, that the bumble bee stripe was also standard. Now, if I'm doing this as a stripe delete, my question would be, if you could get it without the stripe, do you think you could get it without the wheel trim? Because that's my story, & I'm stickin' to it. Steve Stripe and trim delete? Or a "day 2" version? Owner didn't like it and removed it? It's your car, ordered the way you wanted it, from your friendly neighborhood Plymouth dealer. It will be different from the other Mopars on the table. Go with it. Randy
gtx6970 Posted September 29, 2016 Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) I know for a fact you could delete the stripe. Not sure about wheel well trim though.As far as a shifter.....try a straight pin with the round ball on the end to look more accurate shifter for a 69.Ps...it would be a woodgrain ball Edited September 29, 2016 by gtx6970
gtx6970 Posted September 29, 2016 Posted September 29, 2016 The shifter ball for 1969 4spd car Shifter itself, Non console 4 spd Shifter itself WITH a console 4 spd . On a console 4 spd car the only part you can see once installed is the round handle portion
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 29, 2016 Author Posted September 29, 2016 Thanks Bill. I knew the console cars had that funky bend in them. That was part of the reason I was thinking about changing it. As far as the color of the knob goes, the one in this photo was kind of what I was going for. Most of the photos I've seen of them were pretty much "tan" like this with very little wood look. Same with the steering wheels. Steve
gtx6970 Posted September 29, 2016 Posted September 29, 2016 Most of the photos I've seen of them were pretty much "tan" like this with very little wood look.Same with the steering wheels. SteveThats because most of them were worn out , The wood grain was most definitely there when new but thin . I've had a few nos ( still have 1 actually )
1972coronet Posted September 30, 2016 Posted September 30, 2016 There's also the assumption that the lineworkers at Hamtramck, Los Angeles, et al. , read the buildsheet(s) ... or the mouldings weren't available when the car was built ... or the purchaser specified "delete" when the order was placed ( which likely equated to the dealer removing the mouldings upon delivery ).Could be that the blue beauty in that photo is an R/T clone .'Stripe Delete' was V88' ( "V"=Vinyl (or paint in certain instances) , "8"= Location , followed by W , X , G , R , Y , or 8 ; the second 8 indicates "delete" , with the other letters indicating colour)
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 30, 2016 Author Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Thats because most of them were worn out , The wood grain was most definitely there when new but thin . I've had a few nos ( still have 1 actually ) You guys are a wealth of information! Sometimes, a little too much! But seriously, at this point, I'm not going to change the finish of the steering wheel, so I guess I'll forgo any wood grain on the shifter knob. Maybe if I had known a little earlier, I could have done it a little differently. But it'll do as is. I will, more than likely, change out the shifter though. There's also the assumption that the lineworkers at Hamtramck, Los Angeles, et al. , read the buildsheet(s) ... or the mouldings weren't available when the car was built ... or the purchaser specified "delete" when the order was placed ( which likely equated to the dealer removing the mouldings upon delivery ) I like it! We'll go with that! Steve Edited September 30, 2016 by StevenGuthmiller
High octane Posted September 30, 2016 Posted September 30, 2016 I see by the list Bill, that the bumble bee stripe was also standard. Now, if I'm doing this as a stripe delete, my question would be, if you could get it without the stripe, do you think you could get it without the wheel trim? Because that's my story, & I'm stickin' to it. Steve I believe the stripe could be deleted, but not the wheel trim.
Vietnam Vet67 Posted September 30, 2016 Posted September 30, 2016 From a 1969 Dodge Charger ad....................check out the paint scheme.
charlie8575 Posted September 30, 2016 Posted September 30, 2016 I'm really a fan of this build.Charlie Larkin
Carmak Posted October 1, 2016 Posted October 1, 2016 That's kind of what I was thinking. Which is why I was a little baffled to see pictures like this. Steve This car is also missing the filler piece between the hood and the grille. The 68 and 69 hoods are the same except for the bolt on filler. As the filler is bolt on there is a panel line also.
StevenGuthmiller Posted October 1, 2016 Author Posted October 1, 2016 This car is also missing the filler piece between the hood and the grille. The 68 and 69 hoods are the same except for the bolt on filler. As the filler is bolt on there is a panel line also. Too late for any more panel lines now. Body has been painted for a while. I did manage to remember to scribe in the panel lines on the cowl & tulip panel though, something that the original kit lacked & one of those things that I sometimes have a hard time remembering to do. Steve
StevenGuthmiller Posted October 1, 2016 Author Posted October 1, 2016 This car is also missing the filler piece between the hood and the grille. The 68 and 69 hoods are the same except for the bolt on filler. As the filler is bolt on there is a panel line also. One thing that I just noticed from your photo also Craig is that the 1:1 doesn't seem to have the "vent" slots under the grille, yet the kit does. Something else I hadn't noticed until now. Oh well, I probably wouldn't have bothered to mess with that anyway. Steve
MrObsessive Posted October 1, 2016 Posted October 1, 2016 One thing that I just noticed from your photo also Craig is that the 1:1 doesn't seem to have the "vent" slots under the grille, yet the kit does. Something else I hadn't noticed until now. Oh well, I probably wouldn't have bothered to mess with that anyway. Steve Looks like those vents are there. You can just barely see the split of the vent in the middle of the bumper. BEAUTIFUL job so far as always on this car Steven!
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