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Just in case anyone is wondering, I have to confess something.

You'll notice that there are no "directional lights" on the top of the fenders & no chrome fender well trim.

For some reason, my kit did not have the fender well trim when I got it.

I'm assuming that the previous owner trimmed it off for some reason.

The directional lights were there, but were chipped up & I thought it would look better without them rather than trying to fix or replace them.

I kind of like the look without those extra chrome pieces anyway.

Gives it a little more of a "utilitarian" look, which was kind of what I was shooting for with this build.

No bells & whistles, hence the omission of the bumble bee stripe.

Now, that said, I don't know how accurate these 2 omissions make the car.

Anyone know if the 1:1 could be had without these 2 features in '69?

Most factory stock cars that I've seen have the fender trim, but the turn signals are sporadic.

I have seen a few cars without the fender well trim, but don't know how accurate they were.

 

Steve

Posted

Just in case anyone is wondering, I have to confess something.

You'll notice that there are no "directional lights" on the top of the fenders & no chrome fender well trim.

For some reason, my kit did not have the fender well trim when I got it.

I'm assuming that the previous owner trimmed it off for some reason.

The directional lights were there, but were chipped up & I thought it would look better without them rather than trying to fix or replace them.

I kind of like the look without those extra chrome pieces anyway.

Gives it a little more of a "utilitarian" look, which was kind of what I was shooting for with this build.

No bells & whistles, hence the omission of the bumble bee stripe.

Now, that said, I don't know how accurate these 2 omissions make the car.

Anyone know if the 1:1 could be had without these 2 features in '69?

Most factory stock cars that I've seen have the fender trim, but the turn signals are sporadic.

I have seen a few cars without the fender well trim, but don't know how accurate they were.

 

Steve

Those fender mounted turn signals were optional and did not come standard with either the Super Bee or the Coronet R/T, as I know from personal experience. Yes, I just love dem Mopars!

Posted

 

Great ideas guys!

I do like the idea of something a little different & the dog dish caps have become anything but different.

I've always liked the look of the Magnum wheels, but they are pretty much old news.

The deluxe caps look like a cool idea, but at this point Mike, I don't think I want to invest any more into this project.

I do have a '69 Dart kit, but if the caps aren't correct, I'll let that one go.

On the other hand, the recall wheels are intriguing!

I'll have to give that some very serious thought!

I have an old built MPC '69 Barracuda, but the wheels aren't in great shape any more.

So Bill, if the offer stands, I may very well be interested in the recall wheels if you're willing to part with them.

Maybe I should just send this kit to you for finishing!

You seem to have all of the ideas that never cross my mind! :D

I'll PM you.

 

Steve

 

The AO1 light pkg was optional.

But am pretty sure wheel lip mouldings as well as rocker mldgs were standard on an R/T

Posted (edited)

The AO1 light pkg was optional.

But am pretty sure wheel lip mouldings as well as rocker mldgs were standard on an R/T

That's kind of what I was thinking.

Which is why I was a little baffled to see pictures like this.

 

1969-Dodge-Coronet-440-RT.jpg

 

Steve

Edited by StevenGuthmiller
Posted

Just ckd, both wheel lip and rocker mouldings were standard equipment on  a 1969 Coronet R/T . Thats not to say the restorer didn't like them ( or didn't have them ) and just decided to leave them off.

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1969/69_Coronet0021.jpg

I see by the list Bill, that the bumble bee stripe was also standard.

Now, if I'm doing this as a stripe delete, my question would be, if you could get it without the stripe, do you think you could get it without the wheel trim?

Because that's my story, & I'm stickin' to it. ^_^

 

Steve

Posted

This is one killer build, the interior is fantastic.

Thanks Lloyd!

I'm still seriously considering dumping that shifter for something a little more in scale looking.

Every time I look at that "chunky" thing, I think it's gotta go! :P

 

Steve

Posted

I see by the list Bill, that the bumble bee stripe was also standard.

Now, if I'm doing this as a stripe delete, my question would be, if you could get it without the stripe, do you think you could get it without the wheel trim?

Because that's my story, & I'm stickin' to it. ^_^

 

Steve

Stripe and trim delete?  Or a "day 2" version?  Owner didn't like it and removed it?  It's your car, ordered the way you wanted it, from your friendly neighborhood Plymouth dealer.  

It will be different from the other Mopars on the table.  Go with it.  

Randy

Posted (edited)

I know for a fact you could delete the stripe. Not sure about wheel well trim though.

As far as a shifter.....try a straight pin with the round ball on the end to look more accurate shifter for a 69.

Ps...it would be a woodgrain ball 

Edited by gtx6970
Posted

The shifter ball for 1969 4spd car

SB213 4-SPEED SHIFTER BALL WOODGRAIN 3/8

 

Shifter itself, Non console 4 spd

SH056 SHIFTER HANDLE 1968-69 B-BODY NON-CONSOLE RESTORED ORIGINAL

Shifter itself WITH a console 4 spd . On a console 4 spd car the only part you can see once installed is the round handle portion

SH057 SHIFTER HANDLE 1968-69 B-BODY CONSOLE RESTORED ORIGINAL

 

Posted

1969-Dodge-Charger_358929_low_res.jpg

Thanks Bill.

I knew the console cars had that funky bend in them.

That was part of the reason I was thinking about changing it.

As far as the color of the knob goes, the one in this photo was kind of what I was going for.

Most of the photos I've seen of them were pretty much "tan" like this with very little wood look.

Same with the steering wheels.

 

Steve

Posted

Most of the photos I've seen of them were pretty much "tan" like this with very little wood look.

Same with the steering wheels.

 

Steve

Thats because most of them were worn out , The wood grain was most definitely there when new but thin  . I've had a few nos ( still have 1 actually )

Posted

There's also the assumption that the lineworkers at Hamtramck,  Los Angeles,  et al. , read the buildsheet(s) ... or the mouldings weren't available when the car was built ... or the purchaser specified "delete" when the order was placed ( which likely equated to the dealer removing the mouldings upon delivery ).

Could be that the blue beauty in that photo is an R/T clone .

'Stripe Delete' was V88' ( "V"=Vinyl (or paint in certain instances) , "8"= Location , followed by W , X , G , R , Y , or 8 ; the second 8 indicates "delete" , with the other letters indicating colour) 

Posted (edited)

Thats because most of them were worn out , The wood grain was most definitely there when new but thin  . I've had a few nos ( still have 1 actually )

You guys are a wealth of information!

Sometimes, a little too much! :D

But seriously, at this point, I'm not going to change the finish of the steering wheel, so I guess I'll forgo any wood grain on the shifter knob.

Maybe if I had known a little earlier, I could have done it a little differently.

But it'll do as is.

I will, more than likely, change out the shifter though.

 

There's also the assumption that the lineworkers at Hamtramck,  Los Angeles,  et al. , read the buildsheet(s) ... or the mouldings weren't available when the car was built ... or the purchaser specified "delete" when the order was placed ( which likely equated to the dealer removing the mouldings upon delivery )

I like it!

We'll go with that! :D

 

Steve

Edited by StevenGuthmiller
Posted

I see by the list Bill, that the bumble bee stripe was also standard.

Now, if I'm doing this as a stripe delete, my question would be, if you could get it without the stripe, do you think you could get it without the wheel trim?

Because that's my story, & I'm stickin' to it. ^_^

 

Steve

I believe the stripe could be deleted, but not the wheel trim.

Posted

That's kind of what I was thinking.

Which is why I was a little baffled to see pictures like this.

 

1969-Dodge-Coronet-440-RT.jpg

 

Steve

This car is also missing the filler piece between the hood and the grille. The 68 and 69 hoods are the same except for the bolt on filler. As the filler is bolt on there is a panel line also.

69 RT.jpeg

Posted

This car is also missing the filler piece between the hood and the grille. The 68 and 69 hoods are the same except for the bolt on filler. As the filler is bolt on there is a panel line also.

 

Too late for any more panel lines now.

Body has been painted for a while.

I did manage to remember to scribe in the panel lines on the cowl & tulip panel though, something that the original kit lacked & one of those things that I sometimes have a hard time remembering to do. :)

 

Steve

 

Posted

This car is also missing the filler piece between the hood and the grille. The 68 and 69 hoods are the same except for the bolt on filler. As the filler is bolt on there is a panel line also.

 

One thing that I just noticed from your photo also Craig is that the 1:1 doesn't seem to have the "vent" slots under the grille, yet the kit does.

Something else I hadn't noticed until now.

Oh well, I probably wouldn't have bothered to mess with that anyway.

 

Steve

 

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Posted

One thing that I just noticed from your photo also Craig is that the 1:1 doesn't seem to have the "vent" slots under the grille, yet the kit does.

Something else I hadn't noticed until now.

Oh well, I probably wouldn't have bothered to mess with that anyway.

 

Steve

 

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69 RT.jpeg

Looks like those vents are there. You can just barely see the split of the vent in the middle of the bumper. BEAUTIFUL job so far as always on this car Steven! B)

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