Evil Appetite Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) The time of year is upon us when heating the house is a necessity..I have a question. I have a Pace paint booth..next to the window ,so i can easily vent outside. Under the window is an electric baseboard heater. Is there any danger of a boom while painting this winter? I'll add a pic below to show how close it is. The window is just out of frame, and the baseboard heater is, obviously, right under the window.I'm having trouble with the pic..if you could just click on the link i'd appreciate it<img src="http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h165/EvilAppetite/WorkArea/DSCF10431_zps6qyunyrm.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSCF10431_zps6qyunyrm.jpg"/> Edited November 11, 2016 by Evil Appetite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xingu Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 This is one of those toss up questions. Some will say it is OK, others will say you are going to die in a fiery explosion.My thoughts are as long as you are venting outside you should be fine. Do not let fumes buildup and don't spray directly into the heater. Read the precautions that came with the booth, spray can, airbrush and compressor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemodeler Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 If it is just a baseboard heater, you should be fine. I would be more concerned if there was a build up of fumes and an open spark or flame nearby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russosborne Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 If I had to do this, I would start the booth fan well before spraying, and leave it on a few minutes afterwards.Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) Atomized flammable liquids (spraying paint), flammable vapors (thinner fumes) and an ignition source (a hotly-glowing filament in an electrical-resistance heater) are, in general, a recipe for disaster.Proceed with extreme caution. You wouldn't be asking this here if you really thought it was completely safe.That's your brain trying to warn you that it might not be a really good idea.If you HAVE to do it, make sure the heater is OFF well before you start, and that the fan is ON.Don't turn the heater back on until well after you've stopped painting, and allowed the fan to fully remove any fumes from the room. A spark from a switch or relay inside the heater is also a potential ignition source. Edited November 12, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) Atomized flammable liquids (spraying paint), flammable vapors (thinner fumes) and an ignition source (a hotly-glowing filament in an electrical-resistance heater) are, in general, a recipe for disaster. Proceed with extreme caution. You wouldn't be asking this here if you really thought it was completely safe. That's your brain trying to warn you that it might not be a really good idea. If you HAVE to do it, make sure the heater is OFF well before you start, and that the fan is ON. Don't turn the heater back on until well after you've stopped painting, and allowed the fan to fully remove any fumes from the room. A spark from a switch or relay inside the heater is also a potential ignition source. Edited November 12, 2016 by Joe Handley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Appetite Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) thankss people. I always let the booth run a good 10 minutes before I spray to swap the air out and let the booth pull dust out of the air. As well as letting it run a few more minutes afterwards. It's a Pace 24" Super Mini and it moves alot of air. I can light a cigarette and hold it a foot away from the front of the booth and it just draws everything in. My housemate used to complain that he can spell when I'm painting. With my Pace he has no idea..he cant smell anything. I'm confident I'll have no issues...unlike when I had a bathroom fan in that cupboard.I love my Pace. \m/ Edited November 12, 2016 by Evil Appetite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronw Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Agree with A-G's (Bill) post above. You could easily get away with it, or we could end up reading about you.Couldn't you shut off the heater 10 minutes before and after painting? That seems the safest and most practical solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKerry Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Ditto that!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 The base boards do not create any spark which is the source of ignition on many fans because of the brushes. The base board would need to have an exsisting short at the connection points. It's non issue, plus the volume of paint fumes to oxygen ratio would be so great that you would have passed out or thrown up long before they would ever reach a point of igniting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTallDad Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Plan B: Get a small space heater and place it on the other side of the room; use it instead of the baseboard heater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 The base boards do not create any spark which is the source of ignition on many fans because of the brushes. The base board would need to have an exsisting short at the connection points. It's non issue, plus the volume of paint fumes to oxygen ratio would be so great that you would have passed out or thrown up long before they would ever reach a point of igniting. If it's an old-school resistance heater with exposed heating coils or elements, they glow red-hot and CAN provide an ignition source.A resistance-heater functions essentially by creating a "dead short" through the heating element, which is why it glows red-hot.Imagine dropping an airbrush filled with lacquer thinner during cleaning. The thinner atomizes in a plume as the airbrush hits the hard floor, a tiny bit of it splashes through the vent louvers in the heater, and WHOOMP.When dealing with any flammables, it's far wiser to err on the side of caution.I wouldn't want to be the guy who told the OP "hey man, it's OK" and be responsible for the results of a one-in-a-million "accident". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 All good points Bill. I just don't live my life by the "one in a million chance" of something happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) All good points Bill. I just don't live my life by the "one in a million chance" of something happening. I've spent a large part of my life doing "dangerous" things, and one of the reasons I still have all my fingers, both eyes, and the rest of my parts is that I try to foresee worst-case scenarios BEFORE they happen, and act accordingly. It's also a mindset you get prepping race-cars and working on aircraft, among other things. The concept of "oh...I didn't think of that happening" can be fatal. Edited November 13, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I too am always surprised when I think back on my life and how many risk I took and close calls I had that I am still fully in tacked. Contary to what you may think I am a pretty safe operator, I like to use the old adage with a twist, "it's better to safe then have a story" . I already have too many stories. Without risk there is no progression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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