1960 Ford Starliner Pre Order

[1972coronet]

I believe that the kit's  engines are 352 or 360 . The afore-mentioned 390 and 406 are also in the FE ( Ford - Edsel )  family ; that series went up to 428 cubes .

Edited March 2, 2017 by 1972coronet

[regular guy]

Here's what they put up at Round 2.

http://round2corp.com/product/1960-ford-starliner/

Separate chassis. You can build a rolling chassis and have a little Revell 1/4 scale Visible Chassis.

In Southern California they would run these cars sitting high in the back just right.

Since it was a 'In the know' sought after type model you could rest assured

they had a pretty healthy engine in it.

Yanked out whatever engine it came with and put in a large cube with all the right Ford Motorsports parts.

Kit does look like the 10 year old kit. No mention of wall stand. Guess that's not cool anymore.

Edited March 3, 2017 by regular guy

[Edsel-Dan]

The "Wall Mounts" were in 1961 era STYLINE kits

the ONLY 2 kits from that series re-issued since then are the Ranchero with Newly tooled 60 grill

and the 61 Town-Victoria Galaxie First in RC2's Buyer's Choice, then Round2's Retro-Deluxe

 

The Modern Tool 60 Starliner NEVER had that Wall-Mount!!

I do not believe the Original Annual did either

Nor the Craftsman re-issue

[regular guy]

Thank you. I stand corrected.

This Ford and the Mercury Park Lane look like sister kits.

Might be because the boxes look alike.

The Park Lane had a roll cage and one of the current Ford reissues has

the Race option with a roll cage too.

Think it might be the '65 427 kit.

Funny Ford made this Starliner just for Nascar so the roofline would give

them an advantage but there's no Race version of the kit.

[Bob Ellis]

No second engine according to the bottom of the box.

[keyser]

No second engine according to the bottom of the box.

R2 website has 2 engines listed as a feature of this issue. 

 

There isn't any Park Lane off this tool, or anything with box art resembling it. No idea what you're rambling about a Park Lane and a rollcage, that never happened. Put the pipe down and step away from the keyboard. 

[regular guy]

It's the only merc AMT made in that year range. It's a two door.

Round 2 came out with it same era as Starliner.

They have not reissued that one. Probably will soon since they reissued Starliner.

[Rob Hall]

It's the only merc AMT made in that year range. It's a two door.

Round 2 came out with it same era as Starliner.

They have not reissued that one. Probably will soon since they reissued Starliner.

Actually, AMT made full size Mercury kits from '59-66.  Back from 1959-1966.   The '64 and '66 have been reissued in modern times (the '64 in particular has been reissued at least 3 times since the mid 90s), but they have nothing to do with the modern '60 Starliner kit..

Edited March 7, 2017 by Rob Hall

[Dave Darby]

Could have been either a 406, or a 390 both look identical from the exterior.

Stock engine is a 352. Custom engine is whatever size you want.

[keyser]

59-60 Merc last issued in late 60's. 59 was the Craftsman. 60 was the Magnolia Mauler. Nothing in common with 60 Starliner. Zero. 

The Mercs were on longer wheelbase, couldn't share jack, not even with other original 60 Starliner and Sunliner. 

[regular guy]

Here's the kit I was thinking of.

http://www.modelroundup.com/product-p/amt-6022.htm

Mercury Marauder.Box looks like Starliner box.

So that makes them sister kits.

Styline Ford came out about the same time so that would make a trio.

Sort of starter set of early Ford sedans.

[unclescott58]

Here's the kit I was thinking of.

http://www.modelroundup.com/product-p/amt-6022.htm

Mercury Marauder.Box looks like Starliner box.

So that makes them sister kits.

Styline Ford came out about the same time so that would make a trio.

Sort of starter set of early Ford sedans.

Yea and are they both sister/look like cars because they have four wheels? Just because the boxes look somewhat alike (and I question that) doesn't mean that the contents are necessarily the same. True they are both put out by AMT and made of styrene plastic. But, so is just about everything put out under the AMT label. The '64 Mercury kit is an old kit tooled up in the 60's. The present '60 Starliner was kit tooled up in the 1990's. It's a much more detailed and modern kit design. The original 1960 Starliner kit tooled up back in 1959 is long gone. That's why the modern replacement, which is being reissued now, was made. From reading your comments here and in other threads here, I think you need to learn more about model cars and their history before making the comments you do. Or at least ask questions if you don't about something as a fact. 

Scott

 

[regular guy]

Looks like you can put a 427 in the Marauder. Maybe it comes with one. I have not gone over the kit with a fine tooth comb.

427 engine configurations and applications

• Low-riser intake, 4V
  • 10.9:1 — 390 horsepower (290 kW) at 5600 rpm and 460 lb·ft (620 N·m) at 3200 rpm
    • 1968 Mercury Cougar GT-E only (it was to be offered in the Ford Mustang, according to early press releases, but there are no records or verification of any factory 427 Mustangs). In the spring of 1968, the 428 Cobra Jet officially replaced the 427; however, leftover 427s were installed until late June of that year, when stocks were depleted.
  • 11.6:1 — 410 horsepower (310 kW) at 5600 rpm and 476 lb·ft (645 N·m) at 3400 rpm
    • 1963–1964 Ford
    • 1963–1964 Mercury
• Low-riser intake, 2x4V
  • 12:1 — 425 horsepower (317 kW) at 6000 rpm and 480 lb·ft (650 N·m) at 3700 rpm
    • 1963 Ford, Mercury
  • 11.6:1 — 425 horsepower (317 kW) at 6000 rpm and 480 lb·ft (650 N·m) at 3700 rpm
    • 1964 Ford, Fairlane, Mercury

That makes it a fun kit to build.That's probably why they put the rollcage in the kit.

See wikipedia FE article for good explanation of 427 overhead cammer.

Bet the Ford's were real mad about Nascar saying forget it after all that engine development.

[unclescott58]

Looks like you can put a 427 in the Marauder. Maybe it comes with one. I have not gone over the kit with a fine tooth comb.

427 engine configurations and applications

• Low-riser intake, 4V
  • 10.9:1 — 390 horsepower (290 kW) at 5600 rpm and 460 lb·ft (620 N·m) at 3200 rpm
    • 1968 Mercury Cougar GT-E only (it was to be offered in the Ford Mustang, according to early press releases, but there are no records or verification of any factory 427 Mustangs). In the spring of 1968, the 428 Cobra Jet officially replaced the 427; however, leftover 427s were installed until late June of that year, when stocks were depleted.
  • 11.6:1 — 410 horsepower (310 kW) at 5600 rpm and 476 lb·ft (645 N·m) at 3400 rpm
    • 1963–1964 Ford
    • 1963–1964 Mercury
• Low-riser intake, 2x4V
  • 12:1 — 425 horsepower (317 kW) at 6000 rpm and 480 lb·ft (650 N·m) at 3700 rpm
    • 1963 Ford, Mercury
  • 11.6:1 — 425 horsepower (317 kW) at 6000 rpm and 480 lb·ft (650 N·m) at 3700 rpm
    • 1964 Ford, Fairlane, Mercury

That makes it a fun kit to build.That's probably why they put the rollcage in the kit.

See wikipedia FE article for good explanation of 427 overhead cammer.

Bet the Ford's were real mad about Nascar saying forget it after all that engine development.

Again what does this have to do with AMT's '60 Ford? Buy the Mercury kit, and start a thread about it. 

Scott

 

[mike 51]

Again what does this have to do with AMT's '60 Ford? Buy the Mercury kit, and start a thread about it. 

Scott

 

Please do not encourage this nonsense...we don't need more threads like these.  

[sfhess]

With slight modification you can use the Starliner floor pan and chassis under the 64 Marauder for more detail.

[Chuck Kourouklis]

As has been pointed out several times, the '60 Starliner was a new-tool kit released in 2000.  Originally there were separate stock and street machine versions, and the latest boxing, like the one from 2008, uses retro-style graphics and includes both versions in one box.  There were indeed two engines tooled separately in their entirety, though both were FEs - think the hot version might originally have been described by AMT as a 406.

Though the '61 Styline kit, the '63 or '64 Galaxies and the '64 Marauder are promo-based kits dating back to the '60s and have nothing to do with this Starliner in terms of tooling and design, AMT did time the re-release of a few of those kits right around the release of the new '60 so more enterprising modelers could enhance the older kits with newer one's drivetrain and undercarriage.

[regular guy]

'more enterprising modelers'

I like that!

Grouping them together is because of subject. Year and make.

So the Styline is all show no go because it's based on curbside.

That's okay with me. I'll take any Advanced Customizing or Styline.

That reminds me. We can through  in the Advanced Customizing Ford kit with

these.It was a Galaxie or something.

That makes four early 60's Ford sedans.

 

[regular guy]

This one:

http://www.spotlighthobbies.com/amt19foga50012.html

The '61 Styline and this '63 1/2 Advanced Customizing go together and

the this '60 Starliner and the '64 Marauder go together.

So two pair of early '60's Fords.

While you have the 'more enterprising modelers ' you have the 'discriminating buyers' too.

They buy kits that work with a theme or have a reason to buy kit.

So if I was into early 60's Ford kit's I'd get these.

Well back to planning the 'putty customizing studio'.

Edited March 7, 2017 by regular guy

[kentak]

As I recall, one difference is the transmission, one is a 3 speed (with overdrive?) and the other is 4 speed, so probably the 3 speed is meant to be a 352, which was the hi-performance option in 1960 and the other can be a 390, 406, 427 since externally they are nearly identical.

 

[Cpt Tuttle]

I put the Starliner chassis, engine and interior in my 64 Galaxie build to get a better level of detailing, worked out perfect.