Revell 4 Quarter 2017

[Rob Hall]

I don't recall that the snowplow was ever in a Revell kit. The only kits I have seen with a snowplow were the old MPC Jeep kits from 1969/70. 

I'm thinking that maybe someone got their wires crossed with the Jeep kit calling it Ice Patrol. Who knows, maybe we will get a kit with a snowplow and a snowmobile!

Oops..typo..I was talking about the snowmobile, not the snowplow, as seen in the recent '78 GMC pickup (the pickup is of Monogram origin). 

Edited July 12, 2017 by Rob Hall

[High octane]

looking at what Revell is coming out with ,it's pretty sad that this model company is missing the mark .

by now they should have done a 68' coronet R/T and 69' Coronet R/T and 71'-72' Demon 340 .

and there's nothing for TD kits ? why the 69' Daytona why not a Charger 500 easy change . come on Revell

Leave the reisusses to round 2 .

What's with all the crying 'bout the '68 Coronet kit that was offered by Modelhaus and nobody wanted them??? As far as another model company offering them in the future, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for one.

[stavanzer]

Well, the snow PLOW is a separate set of self contained sprues in the '77 GMC kit. Even bagged by themselves, so in theory at least, could be added to any kit. I've not seen the Arctic Cat snow MOBILE, but I suspect that it is a small set of sprues also. Therefore, Revell could drop either or both sets into to any pickup kit in order to add "flavour" so to speak, and call it a "new" kit.  I am all in favour of this kind of thing. These smaller extras are getting hard to find, and throwing them into a kit guarantees a sale to me. I would not mine seeing the long lost Camper Shell and roof mounted driving lights come back either.

[Rob Hall]

What's with all the crying 'bout the '68 Coronet kit that was offered by Modelhaus and nobody wanted them??? As far as another model company offering them in the future, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for one.

I got mine from the Modelhaus, and have the original MPC kits.  But it would be nice to see a modern-tooled one..I don't see it happening either, though. 

[gtx6970]

"Easily" would hang heavily on whether or not alternate versions are designed in at the beginning. 

What out-of-production kits sell for on eBay, or at shows, really doesn't have any bearing on how well a new kit of the same subject would sell.  It only shows that X number of people want a particular kit, and will outbid one another to get it.  A lot of those people only want the original, and wouldn't buy the new one anyway.

I agree....to a point.

 

But seeing what a Johan 1969 GTX or MPC 1968 Coronet sells at . On a consistent basis. An accurate version of either of these should/would be a no brainer ....... IMO 

[gtx6970]

I got mine from the Modelhaus, and have the original MPC kits.  But it would be nice to see a modern-tooled one..I don't see it happening either, though. 

Then are people like myself. I actually avoid resin.  Unless there is absolutely no other option.  

I'll use a 1965 Dodge Pickup as an example. Resin is the Only option if you want one. 

 

 

I'm regards to less say an 1968 Coronet hardtop. 

I look at total costs expense.  By the time I buy a resin kit. And a parts kit needed to complete it. 

I can be in an original plastic kit for about the same money. Without the pitfalls associated working with resin (such as fitting glass )

Edited July 12, 2017 by gtx6970

[BobbyG]

"Easily" would hang heavily on whether or not alternate versions are designed in at the beginning. 

What out-of-production kits sell for on eBay, or at shows, really doesn't have any bearing on how well a new kit of the same subject would sell.  It only shows that X number of people want a particular kit, and will outbid one another to get it.  A lot of those people only want the original, and wouldn't buy the new one anyway.

Mark, while this may be true, I get it. What people will spend just to have an old kit from when they were kids. As advent modeller, I am guilty of this and a lot of people will buy the old kits to make them more accurate by kitbashing with today's more detailed kits, you see it on this forum all the time. That tells me the market is ripe. I for one do this all the time depending on if I really want that subject detailed out that badly and to fill a void. However, using Moebius as an example, they have come out with subjects we never had with significant accuracy and have made an impact on us...we can't wait for their next release! 

It would  be nice for Round 2 and Revell to use existing tools and modify or duplicate them with new versions. Easily meaning, they have most of the work done and should take advantage of the potential the market bears. Regarding Mopar A and B-Bodies, the design work is already there and the intent was there from the beginning. Yes they are more expensive than just re-popping old tools and redesigning new boxes, but if most of the tools exists, my business sense enables me to think there is a lower investment of time to produce new subjects at a lower cost,that's all. This is nothing new, it's been done for years and it's just taking advantage to what exists while comparing the costs to an all new tool.

[Rob Hall]

 

But seeing what a Johan 1969 GTX or MPC 1968 Coronet sells at . On a consistent basis. An accurate version of either of these should/would be a no brainer ....... IMO 

Not going to happen w/ the GTX.  AMT has their '69 that gets reissued periodically, regardless of any inaccuracies it may have, wouldn't make any financial sense to tool up another.

Edited July 12, 2017 by Rob Hall

[BobbyG]

What's with all the crying 'bout the '68 Coronet kit that was offered by Modelhaus and nobody wanted them??? As far as another model company offering them in the future, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for one.

Nick, Modelhaus' prices have always been pretty steep, not everyone can afford them regardless of how badly they may want the subject or reluctant to work with resin. This is not to say their quality and choices were not superior! Modelhaus was the most reliable and popular with resin buyers and provided the only choices for missing subjects. The original MPC 68 Coronet is bringing $200-300 unbuilt and $150 or so for a built or messed up kit...that tells me there is a demand for a new 68 Coronet. Same thing with JoHan's 70 GTX. Revell is missing an opportunity to capture market demand.

[High octane]

Nick, Modelhaus' prices have always been pretty steep, not everyone can afford them regardless of how badly they may want the subject or reluctant to work with resin. This is not to say their quality and choices were not superior! Modelhaus was the most reliable and popular with resin buyers and provided the only choices for missing subjects. The original MPC 68 Coronet is bringing $200-300 unbuilt and $150 or so for a built or messed up kit...that tells me there is a demand for a new 68 Coronet. Same thing with JoHan's 70 GTX. Revell is missing an opportunity to capture market demand.

While there IS a market demand for those kits that you've mentioned, it most likely won't bring in enough sales to justify making a new tooling, production, packaging, decals, instructions, marketing, shipping, etc.

[BobbyG]

While there IS a market demand for those kits that you've mentioned, it most likely won't bring in enough sales to justify making a new tooling, production, packaging, decals, instructions, marketing, shipping, etc.

Then, what you are saying, the model companies should just stay status quo, rely on old tools that have saturated and overly regurgitated in the market and make no new developments (or really, take advantage of existing tools when it makes sense) to compete? How do you think companies make decisions for new products? I venture to say most decisions are from what the market bears, what consumers want and if it's feasible decisions. With the technology we have today, developing new product is less time consumer and more accurate, and of course there is costs which no doubt are very high compared to re-issuing product...but how can any company sustain without new choices? Just giving my opinion as I have been a modeller for 55 plus years and going on my experience in business as well. 

[High octane]

Then, what you are saying, the model companies should just stay status quo, rely on old tools that have saturated and overly regurgitated in the market and make no new developments (or really, take advantage of existing tools when it makes sense) to compete? How do you think companies make decisions for new products? I venture to say most decisions are from what the market bears, what consumers want and if it's feasible decisions. With the technology we have today, developing new product is less time consumer and more accurate, and of course there is costs which no doubt are very high compared to re-issuing product...but how can any company sustain without new choices? Just giving my opinion as I have been a modeller for 55 plus years and going on my experience in business as well. 

No I'm not saying that the model companies should just stay status quo as they do need new tooling and new products. However today's market is not like it was 10 or 20 years ago, and I feel that in today's market it is a lot harder to sell 10 or 20,000 kits than it was back then. A new tooling has to pay for ALL the costs it involves to make a kit and sell it, AND make a profit. With older modelers aging and passing, and the younger modelers becoming less and less, due to other interest it is a very tough market out there.

Back in the 40's when you had soldiers coming home from the war, they wanted to build plastic military model kits. And in the 50's and 60's when new cars were exciting, many young boys wanted those promos that their parents got from the dealers and also to build model car kits. Those times are LONG gone and will never return. Hobby shops are folding left and right and many people blame it on the online shopping we have today, but the interest in plastic modeling is just not there like it used to be.

[BobbyG]

No I'm not saying that the model companies should just stay status quo as they do need new tooling and new products. However today's market is not like it was 10 or 20 years ago, and I feel that in today's market it is a lot harder to sell 10 or 20,000 kits than it was back then. A new tooling has to pay for ALL the costs it involves to make a kit and sell it, AND make a profit. With older modelers aging and passing, and the younger modelers becoming less and less, due to other interest it is a very tough market out there.

Back in the 40's when you had soldiers coming home from the war, they wanted to build plastic military model kits. And in the 50's and 60's when new cars were exciting, many young boys wanted those promos that their parents got from the dealers and also to build model car kits. Those times are LONG gone and will never return. Hobby shops are folding left and right and many people blame it on the online shopping we have today, but the interest in plastic modeling is just not there like it used to be.

Nick, I do agree on all points.

Hopefully our hobby can grow with the younger generations as they seem to with the military followers. And the reason for that is so many vets want to build aircraft, ships and vehicles that they have depended on while serving our country, to your point. Just wish we can intrigue more youths into car modeling as well. We can only hope for the best.

[Daddyfink]

Revell Ice Patrol Pick Up with Snowmobile

Vs. Monogram Snow Plow GMC

Edited July 13, 2017 by Daddyfink

[High octane]

Nick, I do agree on all points.

Hopefully our hobby can grow with the younger generations as they seem to with the military followers. And the reason for that is so many vets want to build aircraft, ships and vehicles that they have depended on while serving our country, to your point. Just wish we can intrigue more youths into car modeling as well. We can only hope for the best.

As far as our younger generation goes, there are not a lot of cars on the road that would make good modeling subjects and make a profit for modeling companies to produce. And a large part of our younger generation is into video gaming and other electronic devices and have little or no interest in model building. Times have been changing for awhile now, not necessarily for the better, and certainly not for the model companies and of course hobby shops in this day and age.

On a more personal note, I myself had started plastic model building back in the 50's and continued to do it off and on to this present day. I do it for my enjoyment and do not really care at all if the younger generation picks up on it. I will be testing the waters with my grandson in a couple of years, and maybe he'll like building model cars and maybe he won't. That would be strictly up to him.

[mk11]

I've not seen the Arctic Cat snow MOBILE, but I suspect that it is a small set of sprues also...

Parts for the sled are actually on two sprues (three counting the windshield).

 

[stavanzer]

Thanks, for sharing those pics. I'd have never guessed they were that spread out. Now I'm really, really curious to see what the "Ice Patrol Jeep" has in it.

[Dodge Driver]

Any chance of getting aftermarket grilles for the Honcho? I'd like to backdate one to the late seventies style appearance. I just don't care for that 1980 grille.

Edited July 12, 2017 by Dodge Driver

[Rob Hall]

Who knows, maybe a resin caster out there will take a liking to the old Jeep...would be neat to see variations of this available... the funky early Gladiator front would be neat to see.

 

 

[martinfan5]

Here is a look at the box art Chase E's Napa Chevy SS, I am purposefully not posting the pic in the thread, all credit goes to Jay Savarese

http://imgur.com/mtMTCBF

[Can-Con]

Thanks, for sharing those pics. I'd have never guessed they were that spread out. Now I'm really, really curious to see what the "Ice Patrol Jeep" has in it.

After seeing the pics of the parts layout, it could be one of two things,,

IF you block off the sprue to the hood on that one tree, the added truck parts could be used on the Jeep as easily as the Chevy pickup. [roll bars, lights and push bar bumper]

Or, [and I'm more inclined to think this] it could be just a mistake by Hobby Lobby, or whoever originally made the list.

 

I don't think we'll know for sure until R-M releases their filer and makes the official announcement.

[hpiguy]

After seeing the pics of the parts layout, it could be one of two things,,

IF you block off the sprue to the hood on that one tree, the added truck parts could be used on the Jeep as easily as the Chevy pickup. [roll bars, lights and push bar bumper]

Or, [and I'm more inclined to think this] it could be just a mistake by Hobby Lobby, or whoever originally made the list.

 

I don't think we'll know for sure until R-M releases their filer and makes the official announcement.

Tower Hobbies made the list. Tower Hobbies and Revell are owned by Hobbico, they are all under the same parent banner.  It's doubtful Revell gave their business partner bad information, but someone could have typed it up wrong in the process.

http://www.hobbico.com/who.php 

[The Junkman]

Has Revell released an informational poster showing ALL its projected releases, not just autos?  Just curious for other areas of interest.  (heresy, I know)

[martinfan5]

Not yet

[The Junkman]

Not yet

Well, poo.