lucky 130 Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 Two things, I believe most of the early "289" cobras were red, black, or yellow. The yellow car referred to in this post, not only had flares on the rear, but also had "spats" on the front. I'm not as well versed on cobras as some, I do think these two facts need to be brought to light.
pharoah Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 I was surprised to see that trailer in the kit,too. But I think I know why it's there. The Fireball 500 kit is currently available,so they just molded a few extra trailers while production is in progress. I used to work in a factory that molded plastic. It's just a way to cut costs.
65slotcar Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 56 minutes ago, lucky 130 said: Two things, I believe most of the early "289" cobras were red, black, or yellow. The yellow car referred to in this post, not only had flares on the rear, but also had "spats" on the front. I'm not as well versed on cobras as some, I do think these two facts need to be brought to light. One thing that is for certain, not many racing cobra's are exatly the same. As AFX stated in another post , the race cars where constantly changing and evolving . this Cobra does have rear flares only and i don't see front spats on any picture i can find. It does have front air ducts for brakes and Halibrand wheels , both available from HRM. A rear flare would not be to hard to fabricate.
afx Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, lucky 130 said: Two things, I believe most of the early "289" cobras were red, black, or yellow. The yellow car referred to in this post, not only had flares on the rear, but also had "spats" on the front. I'm not as well versed on cobras as some, I do think these two facts need to be brought to light. The only colors available on a Cobra in '63 were red, white or black. The Allen Grant car is chassis CSX2128 which was one of the Shelby team cars in '63 before being sold on to Grant. He repainted it yellow and added the distinctive graphics. Shelby added the rear flares to allow larger tires to be mounted. To comply with the FIA rules of the day, the fender spats were added behind the front wheels. I built the sister car CSX2127 from the AMT kit including adding the rear flares. Edited January 5, 2018 by afx
65slotcar Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 was hard to see in picture, yellow Allen Grant cobra did have fender spats under 3 logo decals. AFX , cobra looks awesome !
unclescott58 Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 I've been hunting to see what the past releases of this kit looked like on line. I can find nothing on them. Is this a true reissue? Or is it something new? One thing that goes against the grain, if this was issued in the past, is the choice of the trailer. Other than the Piranha Drag Team, all other two vehicles and trailer combination sets came the old AMT service trailer. The Piranha Drag Team did come with the same trailer as the Fireball 500 kit. But, this the only time I've seen that trailer with another kit. All the others had the service trailer. So what's the deal with this kit? Why can I find no information on past releases of it? And if it was issued in the past? What trailer did it come with?
Muncie Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 26 minutes ago, unclescott58 said: I've been hunting to see what the past releases of this kit looked like on line. I can find nothing on them. Is this a true reissue? Or is it something new? One thing that goes against the grain, if this was issued in the past, is the choice of the trailer. Other than the Piranha Drag Team, all other two vehicles and trailer combination sets came the old AMT service trailer. The Piranha Drag Team did come with the same trailer as the Fireball 500 kit. But, this the only time I've seen that trailer with another kit. All the others had the service trailer. So what's the deal with this kit? Why can I find no information on past releases of it? And if it was issued in the past? What trailer did it come with? more on the trailer over here...
unclescott58 Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Muncie said: more on the trailer over here... Thank you for the link on the trailer. But, it still doesn't answer my basic question. Was the Cobra Race Team released in past, and if so, what trailer did it come with? The other thread on the trailer indicates that the new release may have the right trailer with it. But, does it? Again, it doesn't match up with what was offered with similar combination kits, other than the Piranha Drag Team.
Casey Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, unclescott58 said: I've been hunting to see what the past releases of this kit looked like on line. I can find nothing on them. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/amt-grand-prix-amerique-cobra-racing-492249358 1 hour ago, unclescott58 said: Is this a true reissue? *snip* It's very true to the original release, but it's not an exact copy. The trailer is the same as found in the original issue.
1959scudetto Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 4.1.2018 at 6:58 PM, Pete L. said: I'm pretty sure that the double axle trailer can be turned into the pictured with the Allen Grant car quite easily. Revell's Ford pick-up of that era can be used instead of the AMT pick-up. Beside the numbers and the black stripes though, I just wouldn't know where to get those Coventry Motors decals ? Hi Pete, a German slot racing website has them - they say "decals for the Cobra and tow vehicle ! Here is the link: http://www.slotracing-werk.de/decals/cobra-roadster-289-santa-barbara-1963.html
Pete L. Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, unclescott58 said: Thank you for the link on the trailer. But, it still doesn't answer my basic question. Was the Cobra Race Team released in past, and if so, what trailer did it come with? The other thread on the trailer indicates that the new release may have the right trailer with it. But, does it? Again, it doesn't match up with what was offered with similar combination kits, other than the Piranha Drag Team. Yes, the exact same trailer. I had the original kit back in the day. See the Casey post above. Pete L. Edited January 6, 2018 by Pete L.
Pete L. Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 1:35 AM, 65slotcar said: thanks for posting kit review Ray . it's almost worth it just for the decals. i have been searching for Cobra Powered by Ford decals for Shelby transport truck. Pete, i got this nice set of 1/24 decals from www.slotracing-werk.de/ search DSC-decals and you will find the Cobra decals. it has both the car and truck decals on 1 sheet. great deal ! 65slotcar, Thanks for the info, I'll have to decide which decals to consider when I get going !
Greg Myers Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) On 1/4/2018 at 6:57 AM, droogie said: Is there any evidence verifying that Shelby American used a 53 Ford pickup to tow their race cars? Some one did Edited January 8, 2018 by Greg Myers
afx Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Greg Myers said: Allen Grant was a privateer, not part of the factory Shelby team - if that matter to anyone.
Casey Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) + + new box art = $$$$$$$ for Round2 Edited January 9, 2018 by Casey
cobraman Posted January 9, 2018 Author Posted January 9, 2018 Hmmmmm, that's interesting. The wheels are turning. What a cool way to display some of my cobra's.
afx Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 7 hours ago, drodg said: Are the HRM Hallibrand wheels 1/24 scale? Not sure which Halibrand wheels (6-hole or kidney bean) you are asking about but both style are 1/24 scale. However I have used both on the AMT 1/25 scale Cobra successfully.
cobraman Posted January 10, 2018 Author Posted January 10, 2018 The kidney been wheels in 1/25 scale are included with these two early Cobra kits . I don't believe any Cobra kits after these had them .
afx Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 41 minutes ago, cobraman said: The kidney been wheels in 1/25 scale are included with these two early Cobra kits . I don't believe any Cobra kits after these had them . R&M offers resin copies.
drodg Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 Thanks for the response on the Halibrand wheels.
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