Revell 1/16 '34 Ford - who's built them?

[Jantrix]

Back in the late 80's(?) these kits came out, and I bought up the Phaeton. Even then I was disappointed with the modern billet rod nature of them and never finished it.

So who's built them and how did it turn out?

Lets see some pics.

[Jantrix]

Wow. Nobody huh? Not a surprise.

[Ace-Garageguy]

If the kit had been made in 1/8 or 1/12, I'd have one...but I don't have much in 1/16 (well, I have the Entex SS100 and MG-TC, and if there was a '32 Ford in 1/16, I'd have to have a '34 as well...though I don't have any of the Model A kits either.) Does that make sense?

[Roncla]

I did buy the 34 Coupe back in  the day when they were released but never did build it and sold it as I wasn't that impressed with what was in the box.

Being 1/16 there was little available from the aftermarket to make it in to what I envisioned  back in then

[Casey]

I have started or worked on a few of the coupes, but never completed one. The body is gorgeous, the SBC is perhaps the nicest available 1/16 scale, and the suspension parts are overall very nice, too. The main problem is the kit was released in 1988, and the the only way to build this kit out of the box is as an early "billet" style rod, which severely hampers one's options. The interior tub is a wrap-around style, with modern (though nice) bucket seats, a cupholder in the center console, etc., so other than the dash itself, there's not much to use if you are modifying the kit to an older style rod.  Front suspension is IRS (Mustang II, IIRC), which was typical for 1988, but is now horribly out of fashion, and I want to say the rearend is a Ford 9". Wheels and tires are 14" and 15", too, which, yeah, not good in 2018.

I'm not sure if the 1/16 scale or the "billet" look (or both) is what ultimately did this kit in, but it's still a great starting point, and really if you want to build street rod or hod rod, you're probably going to make most of your own parts for it, right? Out of the box it's probably just too much work to get the look of an older style rod, but the potential is there is you want to put forth the effort.

It think all I have left are these test shot parts from the Coupe, but they are nice:

Edited February 15, 2018 by Casey

[Ace-Garageguy]

Hmmmmm...youse guys have me intrigued now. I have a bunch of oddly "scaled" wheels from diecasts that look like they might be a solution to at least that part of the problem, and 1/16 is large enough to make scratch-building suspension bits relatively straightforward...hmmmmm.

[Mark]

Some "traditional" suspension (and engine) bits can be sourced from the Lindberg 1/16 scale T-bucket kits ("Bull Horn", etc) which are essentially scaled-down from the Monogram 1/8 scale Big T.  The Lindberg tires aren't so hot, but then again AMT had some decent ones in their 1/16 scale kits...

[Ace-Garageguy]

44 minutes ago, Mark said:

Some "traditional" suspension (and engine) bits can be sourced from the Lindberg 1/16 scale T-bucket kits ("Bull Horn", etc) which are essentially scaled-down from the Monogram 1/8 scale Big T.  The Lindberg tires aren't so hot, but then again AMT had some decent ones in their 1/16 scale kits...

Thank you sir. I did not know that.

[Mark]

Those kits must have really bombed back in the day, else they would have been reissued.  The billet, fenderless tub would likely stink up the joint sales-wise if reissued, but if either body style could be brought back in the coupe's full-fendered configuration, they might have something here...

[1930fordpickup]

They are not cheap at shows now or ebay.  I am sure on a good day you can get a deal but mostly not.  I think the biggest problem when new was timing and only one build option. Some rework of this kit and today It would sell better.  

[Jantrix]

14 minutes ago, 1930fordpickup said:

They are not cheap at shows now or ebay.  I am sure on a good day you can get a deal but mostly not.  I think the biggest problem when new was timing and only one build option. Some rework of this kit and today It would sell better.  

I think too much would have to be redone to make this a viable reissue. Minimum, the entire interior replaced, wheels/tires replaced, billet engine pieces replaced with something finned/period looking.

Even then it's a gamble.

 

 

[1930fordpickup]

1 minute ago, Jantrix said:

I think too much would have to be redone to make this a viable reissue. Minimum, the entire interior replaced, wheels/tires replaced, billet engine pieces replaced with something finned/period looking.

Even then it's a gamble.

 

 

All very good points Rob.  With the limited amount of aftermarket may be why we don't see them built up more often.  The size may be what keeps people from taking them to shows.  I think I have only seen maybe 20 large scale models at shows in the last 15 years. 

[Jantrix]

I think that with some scratch-building, the Minicraft Model A's and the AMT '57 and '55 Nomad kits, you might be able to come up with something interesting, but man it would be an expensive undertaking.

[Ace-Garageguy]

7 minutes ago, Jantrix said:

I think that with some scratch-building, the Minicraft Model A's and the AMT '57 and '55 Nomad kits, you might be able to come up with something interesting, but man it would be an expensive undertaking.

Yeah, that's the bast point in favor of not getting involved with one of these.

[mike 51]

The "bast" point eh?

Kinda ironic....

45 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Yeah, that's the bast point in favor of not getting involved with one of these.

 

[Ace-Garageguy]

3 minutes ago, mike 51 said:

The "bast" point eh?

Kinda ironic....

 

"Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something." -Plato

Edited February 15, 2018 by Ace-Garageguy

[Casey]

5 hours ago, Mark said:

Some "traditional" suspension (and engine) bits can be sourced from the Lindberg 1/16 scale T-bucket kits ("Bull Horn", etc) which are essentially scaled-down from the Monogram 1/8 scale Big T.  The Lindberg tires aren't so hot, but then again AMT had some decent ones in their 1/16 scale kits...

The 1/16 Pyro Lindberg T-based kits contain some nice period parts, namely the six-carb intake manifold, two piece Stromberg(?) carbs, and many of the suspension bits, too. Front axle has poseable knuckles, rear is a decent looking quick change style, and there are brake drums and backing plates. Really a nice parts kit for a '60s rod, better than the Minicraft 1/16 Model As IMHO. Not quite sure which trans this is, but it's '60s vintage unlike the modern auto in the Revell '34s:

[Ace-Garageguy]

11 minutes ago, Casey said:

The 1/16 Pyro Lindberg T-based kits contain some nice period parts, namely the six-carb intake manifold, two piece Stromberg(?) carbs, and many of the suspension bits, too. Front axle has poseable knuckles, rear is a decent looking quick change style, and there are brake drums and backing plates. Really a nice parts kit for a '60s rod, better than the Minicraft 1/16 Model As IMHO. Not quite sure which trans this is, but it's '60s vintage unlike the modern auto in the Revell '34s..

Looks at first glance like it might be a sorta '37 or so Buick top-shift toploader with a longer tailshaft...

What engine's in the Lindberg T kit? Any more pix?

PS. I keep moving your wire wheels around and posting notes everywhere to remember to mail them out...   

[Casey]

2 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

What engine's in the Lindberg T kit? Any more pix?

http://modelkitreviews.proboards.com/thread/50/1-16-bullhorn

SBC with finned valve covers.

[Ace-Garageguy]

1 hour ago, Casey said:

http://modelkitreviews.proboards.com/thread/50/1-16-bullhorn

SBC with finned valve covers.

You da man.  

[Mr. Metallic]

On ‎2‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 5:35 PM, Casey said:

 better than the Minicraft 1/16 Model As IMHO.

 

I've had one of these 34 coupes forever, and finally scored a Minicraft 31 roadster to kitbash it with (traditional suspension and flathead). What's wrong with the Minicraft Model A kits?

[Casey]

3 hours ago, Mr. Metallic said:

I've had one of these 34 coupes forever, and finally scored a Minicraft 31 roadster to kitbash it with (traditional suspension and flathead). What's wrong with the Minicraft Model A kits?

Compared to the parts in the Pyro/Lindberg 1/16 T-based kits, they're simply not as nice. For a stock build or something which will use strictly Ford parts, the Minicraft kits will work fine. If you want to lean more towards a hot rod style build, the Pyro/Lindberg kits are the better option IMHO, especially considering nothing in the Revell '34 kits is stock.