1965 Plymouth Fury Questions.

[StevenGuthmiller]

I'm trying to get back into a Johan 1965 Plymouth Fury build that I started many months ago but abandoned due to a less that stellar paint job.

But it's back on the bench now & I have a couple of questions for the true Mopar experts out there.

First, I need to know if the 426 engine from the Lindberg '64 Belvedere kit would be the same engine available in the '65s.

The Johan kit comes with the 426 Hemi, but I'd really like to stay away from that on this project.

Second, am I missing something, or are there no panel lines on the tulip panel between the trunk lid & rear glass on the '65 Fury?

I scribed in the lines in the rocker panels & the cowl area, but not the tulip panel.

I've done some searching on the web but have not been able to find any indication of where they would have been located, or whether or not they even existed at all!

Any insight into these two questions would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thank you!

 

Steve

 

 

 

[tim boyd]

Steven....the 365hp 426-S Wedge was the top powertrain option in the 1965 Fury lineup.  If I were doing this project, I'd use the box stock engine in the Moebius 1965 Satellite kit, which replicates the same engine in 1/1 scale.  (As you may be aware, the one downside of this well detailed engine is the non-stock, finned TorqueFlite transmission pan).....TIM 

[StevenGuthmiller]

9 minutes ago, tim boyd said:

Steven....the 365hp 426-S Wedge was the top powertrain option in the 1965 Fury lineup.  If I were doing this project, I'd use the box stock engine in the Moebius 1965 Satellite kit, which replicates the same engine in 1/1 scale.  (As you may be aware, the one downside of this well detailed engine is the non-stock, finned TorqueFlite transmission pan).....TIM 

I thought of that, but I don't really want to part out a complete Moebius Satellite just for the engine.

I have a Lindberg '64 Belvedere whose engine is ripe for the picking.

What difference, if any, is there between the two engines?

 

Steve

[BubbaBrown]

426-S had chrome valve covers and air cleaner, single afb 4 barrel . I think that might be it externally. Wouldn't  have a guess on panel lines.

[gtx6970]

Yes.

The lindberg wedge would be correct.

 

Keep in mind its a typical big block mopar. 

 

Single 4 barrel carb only. Chrome valve covers and i think chrome round air cleaner? 

Pretty sure the engine is a turquose color as well (definitly not orange )

[Ron Hamilton]

The Lindberg 426 Engine will work on this application. If you can get a Johan 66-68 Chrysler 300 Air Cleaner, and remove the lettering on the top of the pan, chrome the valve covers and the air cleaner, and paint the engine block, heads, intake and water pump turquoise, you are golden. that is what I am going to install in my '65 Sport Fury convertible.

[StevenGuthmiller]

2 hours ago, gtx6970 said:

Single 4 barrel carb only. Chrome valve covers and i think chrome round air cleaner? 

Pretty sure the engine is a turquose color as well (definitly not orange )

Thank you Bill.

That's pretty much what I've been seeing online.

 

Steve

[StevenGuthmiller]

40 minutes ago, Ron Hamilton said:

The Lindberg 426 Engine will work on this application. If you can get a Johan 66-68 Chrysler 300 Air Cleaner, and remove the lettering on the top of the pan, chrome the valve covers and the air cleaner, and paint the engine block, heads, intake and water pump turquoise, you are golden. that is what I am going to install in my '65 Sport Fury convertible.

Thanks Ron.

I think the first thing that I'll do is test the waters & see if anyone would be willing to trade away a complete stock engine from the Moebius kit, or at least the air cleaner & valve covers.

 

Steve

[Ron Hamilton]

13 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

Thanks Ron.

I think the first thing that I'll do is test the waters & see if anyone would be willing to trade away a complete stock engine from the Moebius kit, or at least the air cleaner & valve covers.

 

Steve

I think one of the best engine set ups is the 440 out of the AMT '71 Charger R/T. It has power steering and a/c, as well as the hoses. For a mid to late 60's application, the air cleaner needs to be swapped out for a Jo Han Chrysler Air Cleaner. I have an Air Trax Resin 69 Chrysler 300 Hardtop in the queue, and that is what I am going to put  into that particular build when I get to it. I have it planned out. Yes, I like Chryslers, Plymouths and Dodges of the '60's. I have a bunch to build before I can't anymore.

[SfanGoch]

Better late than never:

Mopar Engine Colors

[gtx6970]

8 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

Thanks Ron.

I think the first thing that I'll do is test the waters & see if anyone would be willing to trade away a complete stock engine from the Moebius kit, or at least the air cleaner & valve covers.

 

Steve

 Let me see what i have. I may be able to help

[Art Anderson]

On 3/15/2018 at 9:57 PM, StevenGuthmiller said:

I'm trying to get back into a Johan 1965 Plymouth Fury build that I started many months ago but abandoned due to a less that stellar paint job.

But it's back on the bench now & I have a couple of questions for the true Mopar experts out there.

First, I need to know if the 426 engine from the Lindberg '64 Belvedere kit would be the same engine available in the '65s.

The Johan kit comes with the 426 Hemi, but I'd really like to stay away from that on this project.

Second, am I missing something, or are there no panel lines on the tulip panel between the trunk lid & rear glass on the '65 Fury?

I scribed in the lines in the rocker panels & the cowl area, but not the tulip panel.

I've done some searching on the web but have not been able to find any indication of where they would have been located, or whether or not they even existed at all!

Any insight into these two questions would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thank you!

 

Steve

 

 

 

Steve, the photo of an unrestored example says it all! Keep in mind that the '65 Plymouth was a unit-bodied car, and in a quick image search online, I've seen a couple of pics of restorations, and there is NO seam visible between the "tulip panel" and it's adjacent rear quarter panels.  As such, more than one detail such as this would be characteristic of a unibody car would be seen, back in the day when the only other US automaker, besides Chrysler, went so "whole hog" into unit-body construction.

Art

Edited March 17, 2018 by Art Anderson

[dartman]

On 3/15/2018 at 10:10 PM, tim boyd said:

Steven....the 365hp 426-S Wedge was the top powertrain option in the 1965 Fury lineup.  If I were doing this project, I'd use the box stock engine in the Moebius 1965 Satellite kit, which replicates the same engine in 1/1 scale.  (As you may be aware, the one downside of this well detailed engine is the non-stock, finned TorqueFlite transmission pan).....TIM 

 

My dad had a 65' Sport Fury with that engine in the 70's.....

[moparfarmer]

On 3/15/2018 at 8:57 PM, StevenGuthmiller said:

I'm trying to get back into a Johan 1965 Plymouth Fury build that I started many months ago but abandoned due to a less that stellar paint job.

But it's back on the bench now & I have a couple of questions for the true Mopar experts out there.

First, I need to know if the 426 engine from the Lindberg '64 Belvedere kit would be the same engine available in the '65s.

The Johan kit comes with the 426 Hemi, but I'd really like to stay away from that on this project.

Second, am I missing something, or are there no panel lines on the tulip panel between the trunk lid & rear glass on the '65 Fury?

I scribed in the lines in the rocker panels & the cowl area, but not the tulip panel.

I've done some searching on the web but have not been able to find any indication of where they would have been located, or whether or not they even existed at all!

Any insight into these two questions would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thank you!

 

Steve

 

 

 

If you want the 383 from the Lindberg 64 Plymouth, I'am coming to NNL North in May..Let me know if it would be okay..Has plain valve covers and proper air cleaner as on shown picture..Let me know by email moparfarmer@hotmail.com..

[rel14]

OH them high school days,  my dad had a 65 plymouth fury 3, 2 dr,, with a police 383 c.i. in it,,  Oh lord would that thing scream,   still wish I had that car,,,  Won money back in the day with it,, before dad found out,,,   My rear is still sore,,,,LOL

[afx]

On 3/16/2018 at 11:40 PM, SfanGoch said:

Better late than never:

Mopar Engine Colors

This was great info so I made it a thread - hope you don't mind.

 

[GMCMAN52]

Steve

Pm you regarding a/cleaner

[1972coronet]

On ‎3‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 8:32 PM, Ron Hamilton said:

I think one of the best engine set ups is the 440 out of the AMT '71 Charger R/T. It has power steering and a/c, as well as the hoses. For a mid to late 60's application, the air cleaner needs to be swapped out for a Jo Han Chrysler Air Cleaner. I have an Air Trax Resin 69 Chrysler 300 Hardtop in the queue, and that is what I am going to put  into that particular build when I get to it. I have it planned out. Yes, I like Chryslers, Plymouths and Dodges of the '60's. I have a bunch to build before I can't anymore.

Caveat regarding the differences in rocker arm ( colloq. , "valve" ) covers : the 1969 & earlier setup is different from the 1970 & later setup (due to evapourative emissions controls ; PCV valve and breather swapped-sides , and oil fill cap was a separate piece on the 1970 & up engines ) . If the 'covers from the Moebius or Lindberg will fit the AMT 440 from the '71 Charger , then all the better . 

Edited April 6, 2018 by 1972coronet
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