Salvinos JR Monte Carlo

[Dave Van]

There should be sheet metal 'crush panels' in those gaps around the rear chassis.

I'm not a apologist for JR but if the body is 95% correct and the chassis suspension corrected I'll give them a passing grade. Running a hobby company (two of them) and working in the kit biz....I KINDA understand.

[niteowl7710]

11 minutes ago, Dave Van said:

There should be sheet metal 'crush panels' in those gaps around the rear chassis.

I'm not a apologist for JR but if the body is 95% correct and the chassis suspension corrected I'll give them a passing grade. Running a hobby company (two of them) and working in the kit biz....I KINDA understand.

From what I've read of their back and forth, there is no plan to fix the mostly-sorta "it started at a Mopar project" front suspension.  Also when you're being "forced" to run extra tooling to cut new front and rear bumpers and grille inserts for the Oldsmobile, maybe that's a clue you should fix the "universal" nature of your Monte Carlo bumper.  I mean do I need to buy the Mopar Wing Car kit to get the correct '74 Monte Carlo bumper?  Is that going to be the way they sell extra kits - just make you have to buy the next new tool kit to get all the fixed pieces for the last one?  How very Yenko/"COPO" Nova of them.

[PettyKW43]

For all the years I’ve been building NASCAR models , there has never been a single kit of any given car that was perfect! I do give these guys credit for their efforts not only in tackling subjects never touched but also acknowledging that mistakes were made and they are striving to improve. Not only that , with the recent acquisition of the older Monogram tools we as small niche market are only to benefit! I won’t say that the Olds kit was great but I did buy a couple and will buy a couple more to cover the cars I want to do and I will fix what needs fixing at a cost that is still cheaper than any of the resin bodies that I have ever looked at! Let’s go build some plastic boys and girls! Keep em coming Salvinos!

[Bucky]

On 7/27/2018 at 1:41 PM, Sledsel said:

I love the fact they are going into the 70's Nascar era...... If they are good, i will buy them for sure

Hope to see some non-GM offerings though.

 

I agree with Andy on the non-GM NASCAR kits.

How about one of these?

Buddy Arrington Imperial.

[Dave Van]

2 hours ago, niteowl7710 said:

From what I've read of their back and forth, there is no plan to fix the mostly-sorta "it started at a Mopar project" front suspension.  Also when you're being "forced" to run extra tooling to cut new front and rear bumpers and grille inserts for the Oldsmobile, maybe that's a clue you should fix the "universal" nature of your Monte Carlo bumper.  I mean do I need to buy the Mopar Wing Car kit to get the correct '74 Monte Carlo bumper?  Is that going to be the way they sell extra kits - just make you have to buy the next new tool kit to get all the fixed pieces for the last one?  How very Yenko/"COPO" Nova of them.

Thankfully in a free economy we get to pick what we spend money on. Would I prefer a 99% PERFECT kit??? YES!!

But it comes down to personal choices.....buy or not. As I said if body is good, corrected suspension....I'll buy a few. 

Another great thing about a free economy is ANYONE can make a better product and out sell the inferior. thx 

[Merkur XR4Ti]

I seldom if ever turn my models upside down. I display them on a shelf. If they look good on the shelf I'm happy.

 

I haven't built my Salvino Olds yet, but the built ones I've seen LOOK right to me. This Monte looks right too. So I'll be buying it as well and not displaying it upside down.

 

My .02. Can't wait.

[PettyKW43]

I would love to see the Imperial in kit form , as a matter of fact I would love to see anything else that we have not seen yet. With all the raw materials at our disposal there is no reason to not be able to make any of these kits near perfect in accuracy! Looking at the Olds front suspension and within an hour it’s changed up , even as a shelf piece, trim away the torsion bars and it looks GM/Ford.

['70 Grande]

Looking at the Olds front suspension and within an hour it’s changed up , even as a shelf piece, trim away the torsion bars and it looks GM/Ford

I was kinda wondering the same thing.  I plan on removing those torsion bars and adding some support braces in an attempt to convert the "look" of this front suspension into something more GM-like.  Any thoughts PettyKW43 on what alts might help pull-it-off?

[Dave Van]

I use the old 90's era AMT NASCAR kits for the rear trailing arms.....you can do the same with the front suspension from those kits. 

If you want to go super easy....trim off the torsion bars and add a small dia plastic rod from the lower control arm (at the ball joint)  at a 45 degree angle to the lower radiator/frame support. 

[martinfan5]

I admit, I would look to see the Imperial , for some odd reason Ive liked the Imperial , one of my granddad's had a 81-83 Imperial , and as a 14 year old, I thought it was cool car.

Edited September 21, 2018 by martinfan5

[PettyKW43]

On 2018-09-20 at 8:51 PM, '70 Grande said:

 

 

I was kinda wondering the same thing.  I plan on removing those torsion bars and adding some support braces in an attempt to convert the "look" of this front suspension into something more GM-like.  Any thoughts PettyKW43 on what alts might help pull-it-off?

What I would do is add a small half circle of tubing to the front frame rail and blend it in, then take a coil spring from the parts box trimmed to fit between the bottom of the frame rail and the lower control arms. Front is done and at the back I would use the rear suspension assembly from any AMT 90’s stock car kit and this chassis is done. But on the Monte Carlo kits the rear suspension parts to convert are already planned for the kit.

[niteowl7710]

Looking through other things there does appear to be two front bumpers, one for each of the years, so I withdraw my "objection" over that aspect of the kit.  Odd that they mixed and matched front ends in that CAD drawing.

[Chuck Kourouklis]

Hmm. Lookit. Two sets of spindles.  Drums and disks.

[niteowl7710]

1 hour ago, Chuck Kourouklis said:

Hmm. Lookit. Two sets of spindles.  Drums and disks.

Yeah there's a bunch of spindles, brakes and offsets they were tooling up that aren't specific to the Monte Carlo and can be used to universally fit their chassis under anything you want and thereby adjust the ride height and track width - which I give them credit for is pretty nifty on general principal.  The separate front fascia clip also alleviates my concern about how the round vs. stacked quad headlights would be handled, I hope they engrave the turn signal panels on the '74.

[Rob Hall]

Would the hoods also be different for the round vs. stacked headlight fascias? 

[PettyKW43]

On 2018-10-02 at 2:57 PM, Rob Hall said:

Would the hoods also be different for the round vs. stacked headlight fascias? 

They should be as the hood was definitely different!