British Racing Green

[coopdad]

Guys, I am looking for spray paint (in rattle can) of one of the darker shades of British Racing Green, like used on Jags and Triumphs in early 60's. Tamiya has two listed: Racing Green and British Green but I am unclear which is the dark one. Has anyone got photos? Are there other brands I should look for?

Thanks all,

John

[george 53]

Coop, Maybe if you sprayed it over a black or dark grey primer you'd get tha shade your lookin for? Just a suggestion, cuz I myself have never tried it.

[Zoom Zoom]

You want the Tamiya British green, the racing green is much lighter.

The British Green is very rich and dark. It almost looks black in photos:

[simonr]

You can use Model Master IMP Japan Army Navy Green #2116.

Simón P. Rivera Torres

[MrObsessive]

When I built my D-Type-----I used Krylon "Hunter Green" with just a touch of black over a black primer. The car I modeled was out of a magazine and like Bob said, nearly looked black in some photos.

Now I used an airbrush in applying mine..............I'm just not a big fan of any spray can for painting bodies.....

[Brendan]

You want to use Tamiya's TS-9 British Green, which is the darker of the two.

[Dragon7665]

Hands Down My Favorite Green Great looking Cars Guy's They Capture the Kolor Perfectly :lol:

[lordairgtar]

You are going to have to mix paint specific to the car. British Racing Green was never a single color. Different makes and even different years had different shades.

[coopdad]

Man, beautiful builds... sure, beautiful shapes in a beautiful color, but still excellent craftsmanship!

Now that we have some really good choices for BRG, I am going to divert the topic as, well, it is my thread I originally wanted to paint the car (Triumph TR3) the factory apple green used on works rally cars. I thought there would be no way to find that in a can so I will (probably) be going with BRG. But, might as well ask, anyone seen anything close to that in a can?

Thanks again,

John

p.s. Bob, where did you find that lightweight E type kit? Again, beautiful!

[Brendan]

Man, beautiful builds... sure, beautiful shapes in a beautiful color, but still excellent craftsmanship!

Now that we have some really good choices for BRG, I am going to divert the topic as, well, it is my thread I originally wanted to paint the car (Triumph TR3) the factory apple green used on works rally cars. I thought there would be no way to find that in a can so I will (probably) be going with BRG. But, might as well ask, anyone seen anything close to that in a can?

Thanks again,

John

p.s. Bob, where did you find that lightweight E type kit? Again, beautiful!

Triumph usually ran their cars as a lighter green, not the dark green like the Jaguars and Lotus would have run.

[Zoom Zoom]

Actually, as Brendan noted, Racing Green might be more appropriate for a Triumph.

My E Type Lightweight is an OOB buildup of a resin Profil24 kit. Very enjoyable build, aside from body cleanup/primer it was all built during the 2007 24 hours of LeMans. You can find the buildup of that model in my Fotki album, link below in my signature.

[HotRodaSaurus]

As Lordairgtr pointed out, BRG was never a single colour or shade. Check out archive colour photo's or film and you will see some really light and some darker shades.

I believe this is general for all the racing colours when they used to be international like French Blue, Italian Red etc.

In an earlier thread I noted that the Tamiya Lola T70 box ilustration was blue but the actual colour should have been BRG. I have see the car in a couple of colour photo's and it does look blue but with a hint of green. Has anyone else noticed this?

Cheers, J

Edited August 16, 2008 by HotRodaSaurus

[Guest zebm1]

There is no specific BRG, just depends on personal preference, some are very dark, some are quite a bit lighter. For instance German Silver....it bounces all over the place too, same for Italian Red...have a maserati and a ferrari sitting next to each other an see two different reds....now american white almost always pretty much the same but the blue stripes varied. John Mecom reversed the american colors..metalic blue with white stripes, as did others.

Edited August 16, 2008 by zebm1

[duffer]

In an earlier thread I noted that the Tamiya Lola T70 box ilustration was blue but the actual colour should have been BRG. I have see the car in a couple of colour photo's and it does look blue but with a hint of green. Has anyone else noticed this?

The least of the problems with that kit as it should also have the Aston Martin V8! If you are doing the prototype version, note too that the Surtess white arrow also had a red pinstrip around it, which is often hard to distinguish in contemporary pictures. I'd wager it was probably done with 1/2" red electrical tape back in the day. Oh, and the wheels are slightly incorrect too. The edges of the spokes do not extend out to the rim far enough.

[Guest zebm1]

This is the most recent version of the Surtees Lola T-70 at Goodwood Speed festival.....

It's actually BRG.....

Edited August 18, 2008 by zebm1

[HotRodaSaurus]

This is the most recent version of the Surtees Lola T-70 at Goodwood Speed festival.....

It's actually BRG.....

The Tamiya Lola Surtee's is a coupe but the example of how this colour(BRG) is missreprisented is perfectly shown here as these also look a shade of blue.

Thanks for the post, J

[Guest zebm1]

Actually this racecar was driven by Surtees during the CanAm era. It is powered by a Gurney-Weslake engine.

Edited August 19, 2008 by zebm1

[duffer]

Thought I'd better scan this to save further confusion ('scuse the quality)!

This is the british racing green Aston Martin powered prototype T-70 that Tamiya modelled in 1/12, only they thought it was blue and stuck the Chevy lump in it!

Note also the 'P' suffix stands for prototype.

Edited August 19, 2008 by duffer

[duffer]

Actually this racecar was driven by Surtees during the CanAm era. It is powered by a Gurney-Weslake engine.

I have some engine shots somewhere if anyone is interested?

[Guest zebm1]

Here is the engine in the CanAm T-70.....

[HotRodaSaurus]

Thought I'd better scan this to save further confusion ('scuse the quality)!

This is the british racing green Aston Martin powered prototype T-70 that Tamiya modelled in 1/12, only they thought it was blue and stuck the Chevy lump in it!

Note also the 'P' suffix stands for prototype.

Thanks for posting this, I can see how the guys at Tamiya got it wrong. Is that P at an angle or is that another thing wrong?

As no one models a 1/12 Aston or Gurney Weslake engine I will have to stick with the Chevrolet

Which book or magazine is the picture scanned from please.

Thanks, John

[duffer]

Thanks for posting this, I can see how the guys at Tamiya got it wrong. Is that P at an angle or is that another thing wrong?

As no one models a 1/12 Aston or Gurney Weslake engine I will have to stick with the Chevrolet

Which book or magazine is the picture scanned from please.

Thanks, John

John,

The book is 'Lola T70 V8 Coupes' by Ian Bamsey. Got mine at Chaters, but don't know if it's still in print. It's a good read but not that many more photos of this particular car. One more colour shot on the cover, a colour rear shot and one more side on in colour. Rather than put them all up here I could scan them for you and send, but can't find a way to PM you here.

Yes, both the 'P' and '1' were crooked!

If you wanted to go for authenticity with the kit parts you could go for decals from F1Specialties. They do two T-70 sets and I bought the Sid Taylor scheme which I think looks great, though I've still not built mine. I also have a second damaged T-70 that will be roof chopped one day!

http://www.f1specialties.com/main/conversions/l70.php

I ordered my decals direct and F1S are great to deal with. They also do other options for Tamiya 1/12ths. Don't use the Belgian guy on eBay as his prices are an absolute rip!

The kit wheels and engine are correct for the Sid Taylor car (but the tyres should be Goodyear - F1 Specialties do decals for those too). I did a lot of research into this car but never found out much! The Bamsey book has some good pics at the Brands BOAC 500, but the car was often run with grey primer patches all over it. Taylors spyder T-70 is now doing the Historic rounds though and has been often displayed at Goodwood.

I got hold of one of the chassis builders at Lola a few years ago that worked on the original cars. From memory he recalled that the chassis' (if painted and not polished) were done in that dove grey that was used on Morry Minors!

Edited August 20, 2008 by duffer

[Guest zebm1]

Hey Duffer, are yu talking about one of these two Lolas.....

chec out tha yellow racer in tha background, still haven't figured out what that is.....

[duffer]

Hey Duffer, are yu talking about one of these two Lolas.....

chec out tha yellow racer in tha background, still haven't figured out what that is.....

Crikey...no idea what the yellow single seater is.

The red Lola is in the John Surtess/David Hobbs scheme (F1Specialties do decals for this one). Not sure how authentic many of the current Historic Series cars are. There's a lot of controversy about T-70s at the moment because one can order a 'new build' Lola using original parts and specs and it's elligible for Historic racing. There seems to be one or more extra Lola's at every Goodwood Revival.

I think it was John Strakey that said something to the effect of 'out of the 14 cars Lola originally built only 36 survive'

I located the owner of the original Sid Taylor car a few years ago who has owned it since the 70s. Sadly it's been stored away in boxes for many, many years.

[Guest zebm1]

Hey Duffer, Let's see some pics of thet Aston-Martin monster motor......