Umm Ford,What's going on?

[Aaronw]

19 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Which is something I do not and probably will not ever understand. ANYONE who's ever been involved with computers or any kind of complex electrical or mechanical systems knows that complex systems do not ALWAYS function as foreseen, and that unexpected failures in modes not predicted are common.

Today's onboard electronic systems are easy to hack into remotely for someone with the right skills (which has been demonstrated repeatedly...but nobody seems to be paying much attention) and the self-drives, no matter how heavily protected by "security" will be vulnerable as well. In addition, they appear (at this time, anyway) extremely vulnerable to relatively unsophisticated means to disable them in multiples. And several exploits against the "internet of things" have shown conclusively how vulnerable to hacking that particular piece of idiocy really is.

There are some very bad people in the world, but there are also those who persist in the delusional notion that everyone everywhere loves puppies and unicorns. I look around, and to some segments of Western society, it's as though 9-11 never happened. So...tell me what makes a more tempting terrorist target than a busy rush-hour interstate segment with a high percentage of driverless vehicles whose sensors and/or communication abilities can be shut down simultaneously. You get a very large steaming pile, in an instant, for a very small investment.

WHY do humans seem to be in such a hurry to give up both their freedoms AND their responsibilities to technology and government, going unthinkingly through life saying lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala, while they look away from the dangers staring them undeniably squarely in the face?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/uber-self-driving-car-fatality-reveals-the-technologys-blind-spots1/

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-42710215

 

Devo called this in 1980

Freedom of choice is what we've got, Freedom

from choice is what we want.

 

Smart guys

 

 

[Luc Janssens]

1 hour ago, dimaxion said:

I will say this . People Buy Imports . Imports will be made . There is another hake up coming soon , Stay tuned , I am . Thanx 

Imports with a domestic brand name, big difference, IMHO

[NYLIBUD]

We just have to wait,and see what happens next.

[redneckrigger]

21 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

WHY do humans seem to be in such a hurry to give up both their freedoms AND their responsibilities to technology and government, going unthinkingly through life saying lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala, while they look away from the dangers staring them undeniably squarely in the face?

 

And THAT question, Bill, pretty much sums up all that is amiss with society today. Well said.

[fumi]

On 1/1/2019 at 11:17 AM, Ace-Garageguy said:

Today's onboard electronic systems are easy to hack into remotely for someone with the right skills (which has been demonstrated repeatedly...but nobody seems to be paying much attention) and the self-drives, no matter how heavily protected by "security" will be vulnerable as well.

This is very well preventable, and no reason for it to happen in first place.  All the entry points for the hacks were from the entertainment system.  There is no need for the manufacturers to tie in the user electronics with the system electronics.

[dimaxion]

Yes  the US Car Makers are yielding the Domestic Car Market . https://www.marketwatch.com/story/four-reasons-detroit-should-keep-making-sedans-2018-07-23 . I watch on PBS : "Autoline this Week ." The focus Detroit is nothing you would expect . Yet , betting the Farm with perceived as Gas Guzzlers after the Gas Crisis ? A shining example of Text Book totally self-destructive . Not that this isn't only  my Opinion for the remaining 3 to  to do . Some of US do understand our leader(les)S demand we drive our own Coffins . Gm is just following the leaders ans shutting and destroying  "Unused Manufacturing Plants" . Including GM Lordstown . Tye Newestand Most Modern of them all . About the Saturn Complex . ? Who owns this now ? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.  Thanx 

[Ace-Garageguy]

9 hours ago, fumi said:

This is very well preventable, and no reason for it to happen in first place.  All the entry points for the hacks were from the entertainment system.  There is no need for the manufacturers to tie in the user electronics with the system electronics.

Exactly, and I've been pushing for stand-alone and hardened mission-critical systems (the ones necessary to control speed, steer and stop any vehicle SAFELY) since 2005, when I first realized just HOW vulnerable today's tech-dependent cars really were.

But another scary thing ignored by everyone in perpetual lala land is that non-nuclear EMP weapons development has been ongoing globally for years, and is within the technological reach of determined bad guys today. An EMP (electromagnetic pulse) can instantly disable ALL non-hardened electronic systems within its range. 

One short pulse from an interstate overpass could produce a result like this:

                                   

Edited January 2, 2019 by Ace-Garageguy