AAR Cuda Paint Sequence Question

[Xingu]

The AAR Cuda has flat black on the rear panel, top of the fenders and top of doors. Should I paint the flat black and then mask it off before I clear the rest of the body or should I just clear the body and paint the flat black over it, after it cures?

Pretty sure spraying clear on the flat black will turn in glossy. I know matte clear over gloss will turn it flat.

This is the first model that I have built with gloss and flat on the same surface, so just not sure how to address it.

[Snake45]

  On 11/29/2019 at 2:11 PM, Xingu said:

The AAR Cuda has flat black on the rear panel, top of the fenders and top of doors. Should I paint the flat black and then mask it off before I clear the rest of the body or should I just clear the body and paint the flat black over it, after it cures?

Pretty sure spraying clear on the flat black will turn in glossy. I know matte clear over gloss will turn it flat.

This is the first model that I have built with gloss and flat on the same surface, so just not sure how to address it.

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You could do it either way, keeping in mind that masking adhesive is more likely to leave residue on the the flat surface, and it will be harder to clean off without damage. 

I'd paint, clear, and polish the rest of the body, then mask off and shoot the flat black. But as I said, you can go either way. 

[SfanGoch]

Use frisket film to mask off the areas. It doesn't leave residue and is, to use a technical term, sweller than tape. Zero bleed-through.

Grafix Frisket Film

 

[SCRWDRVR]

  On 11/29/2019 at 3:52 PM, SfanGoch said:

Use frisket film to mask off the areas. It doesn't leave residue and is, to use a technical term, sweller than tape. Zero bleed-through.

Grafix Frisket Film

 

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Can you use it with spray cans too?

[Casey]

Color, clear, then flat or matte where needed, in that order.

[drodg]

  On 11/29/2019 at 3:52 PM, SfanGoch said:

Use frisket film to mask off the areas. It doesn't leave residue and is, to use a technical term, sweller than tape. Zero bleed-through.

Grafix Frisket Film

 

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Not to high jack this thread but just ordered this to do a black out on the hood of a 69 Jo Han Roadrunner.  Thanks

[SfanGoch]

  On 11/29/2019 at 4:21 PM, SCRWDRVR said:

Can you use it with spray cans too?

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I can't think of any reason why you couldn't.

[Snake45]

I tried Frisket back in the '70s. It worked well enough for some things, but I found that it had a number of drawbacks and ultimately wasn't worth the expense/effort to obtain. I still have some around somewhere, but haven't used it in at least 30 years and haven't missed it a bit. 

[SfanGoch]

You used frisket paper, which is a different animal. Frisket paper was exactly that, a low tack masking medium sometimes made from oiled paper. Frisket film is made from clear acetate and is not absorbent, eliminating the risk of possible bleeding under or through when spraying over it.

[Snake45]

  On 11/29/2019 at 9:07 PM, SfanGoch said:

You used frisket paper, which is a different animal. Frisket paper was exactly that, a low tack masking medium sometimes made from oiled paper. Frisket film is made from clear acetate and is not absorbent, eliminating the risk of possible bleeding under or through when spraying over it.

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I used Frisket Film. 

[SfanGoch]

I also used frisket in the mid-late '70s for masking on aircraft models and I remember it being actual paper with a slightly wrinkled, crepe paper-like texture.

[Xingu]

Thanks for the replies and info. I now have a plan of attack.

[1972coronet]

The blackout / accent (et al.) paint is actually textured on the 'real' car ; its nomenclature is Organosol --- 

Here's a page which exhibits that finish : https://the70aarcuda.com/aar-`cuda 

I'm not sure if you're planning to replicate that textured finish (maybe a moot point in 25th scale) ; however , that gnarly stuff was applied before the rest of the car was painted .

[SfanGoch]

  On 12/1/2019 at 5:28 PM, 1972coronet said:

that gnarly stuff was applied before the rest of the car was painted .

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According to this

This is an up close shot of an original 1970 car showing where the stripe over spray went between the hood and the cowl. NO WAY was this area masked off and NO WAY was the stripe painted before the body color. ‘Nuff said!

Organosol: Separating Truth From Fiction

Edited December 1, 2019 by SfanGoch

[gtx6970]

  On 12/1/2019 at 5:28 PM, 1972coronet said:

 ; however , that gnarly stuff was applied before the rest of the car was painted .

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Sorry. 

But I'll respectively disagree with this.

 

I've done some work on an original fc7 paint aar. And can assure you there is purple under the blackout.

[1972coronet]

My mistake ,  mea culpa --- I was *thinking* of the painted tail stripes of the 1970 Challenger R/T . Not sure how I confused the two...