Monogram '29 Ford engine, questions

[Roadrunner]

This is the engine that came with my Monogram '29 Ford. I have two questions:

Is what's depicted a magneto type ignition, requiring no ignition coil?

There seems to be only three exhaust ports per side and the exhaust pipes are so configured. Is this some sort of V-6 engine?

 

Thanks a bunch,

[1930fordpickup]

Looks like a magneto to me. I am going to guess this is a Pontiac Engine with 2 exhaust ports in the center like many other V8's . 

 

[larman]

The motor has a magneto, it's on the back top of the block in your pic. The motor has three exhaust ports because it is supposed to be an Oldsmobile.  Early Cadillacs, Oldsmobile and Pontiac V8s all had 3 port exhausts. The middle 2 ports were together. It is probably supposed to be a 394 cubic inch V8. As I had mentioned before the original issue of the kit you have was the Blue Beetle and that had different heads, etc. To make it look like a Cadillac. 

Edited March 21, 2020 by larman

[Roadrunner]

OK, thanks, a bunch fellas. I'm rather surprised at how much of this stuff I was unaware of.

[Dennis Lacy]

The engine in this kit is absolutely a first generation Cadillac 331 V8. It is NOT an Oldsmobile. The first few issues of the kit back in the 60’s featured a six 2-barrel intake and Cadillac script valve covers. In the 70’s those features were changed to reflect the popular (at the time) tunnel ram intake with dual 4-barrels. A few years ago Monogram reissued the kit restored entirely back to its original configuration except for the Cadillac name on the covers. They also altered the original issue Blue Beetle name to Blue Bandito. Both because of copyright conflicts. 
 

The ignition is a Magneto and does not use a coil. 

[Ace-Garageguy]

5 minutes ago, Dennis Lacy said:

The engine in this kit is absolutely a first generation Cadillac 331 V8. It is NOT an Oldsmobile. The first few issues of the kit back in the 60’s featured a six 2-barrel intake and Cadillac script valve covers. In the 70’s those features were changed to reflect the popular (at the time) tunnel ram intake with dual 4-barrels. A few years ago Monogram reissued the kit restored entirely back to its original configuration except for the Cadillac name on the covers. They also altered the original issue Blue Beetle name to Blue Bandito. Both because of copyright conflicts. 
 

The ignition is a Magneto and does not use a coil. 

Correct. The Caddy engine is the only one with the water manifolds going to the front of the heads as represented by the model.

[Roadrunner]

18 minutes ago, Dennis Lacy said:

The engine in this kit is absolutely a first generation Cadillac 331 V8. It is NOT an Oldsmobile. The first few issues of the kit back in the 60’s featured a six 2-barrel intake and Cadillac script valve covers. In the 70’s those features were changed to reflect the popular (at the time) tunnel ram intake with dual 4-barrels. A few years ago Monogram reissued the kit restored entirely back to its original configuration except for the Cadillac name on the covers. They also altered the original issue Blue Beetle name to Blue Bandito. Both because of copyright conflicts. 
 

The ignition is a Magneto and does not use a coil. 

Great. Thank you very much.

10 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Correct. The Caddy engine is the only one with the water manifolds going to the front of the heads as represented by the model.

I had wondered about that. Thanks for the clarification.

[larman]

13 minutes ago, Dennis Lacy said:

The engine in this kit is absolutely a first generation Cadillac 331 V8. It is NOT an Oldsmobile. The first few issues of the kit back in the 60’s featured a six 2-barrel intake and Cadillac script valve covers. In the 70’s those features were changed to reflect the popular (at the time) tunnel ram intake with dual 4-barrels. A few years ago Monogram reissued the kit restored entirely back to its original configuration except for the Cadillac name on the covers. They also altered the original issue Blue Beetle name to Blue Bandito. Both because of copyright conflicts. 
 

The ignition is a Magneto and does not use a coil. 

The Early Iron series version, says it is supposed to be a "late model Olds".  Which is why  I said it was "supposed" to be one. That being said, if you and Ace say it's a Cadillac, it is!  ?   You guys both know your stuff!!

[Mark]

Monogram "changed" the engine from Cadillac to Olds for the Tom Daniel "Boss ABone" issue.  They also called the transmission a Torqueflite.  Torque tube, yes, Torqueflite, no.

[Dennis Lacy]

6 hours ago, Mark said:

Monogram "changed" the engine from Cadillac to Olds for the Tom Daniel "Boss ABone" issue.  They also called the transmission a Torqueflite.  Torque tube, yes, Torqueflite, no.

They may have called it that on the box but the physical engine in this kit has never changed except for the induction and valve covers.

[Mark]

That's why I said "changed".  The '32 Ford roadster in the same series had a "Boss 302 Mustang" engine that was still a Pontiac mill.

[Daddyfink]

Hey, look! A Cadillac engine with a Magneto! ?

[junkyardjeff]

The ZZ top coupe and the 90s chopped top version was advertised as having a sbc but actually had the Pontiac made to look like a sbc.