Concrete Patio Surface Finishes

[stavanzer]

My house is relatively new (1986) and a tract home, not a custom build. In it's Day it was a faux "Upscale House" with High End features at a Tract Home price. (i.e. Fireplace, Vaulted Ceilings, a then trendy "Galley style Kitchen, enclosed Laundry Room and combined Brick/Stucco exterior finish.) It has a vague Semi-Mediterranean flavor to the outside, with California Spanish touches. It is a real Mishmash of styles, and pretty common for what was being built back then. It was (and STILL is!) a nice house.  Framed with 2"x6" studs and all copper plumbing, it is a real "Keeper". My Wife and I love it.

That said, there is a small (14' x 8') patio in the back with a small roof. It is a decent patio, if a bit small. But, when it was built, the concrete was done in the "Glass Smooth" surface finish that guarantee's that the slightest bit of water converts the patio into an Instant Ice Rink. I just finished my nightly watering and put my foot wrong. I saved myself tonite, at the cost of a wrenched shoulder, and an over-extended hip.  What I want to know, is what is with the mirror finish concrete in patios and walkways back then? The walkway from the driveway to the front door, has the same slippery finish, and is just as treacherous in the rainy season. Why was this done? I'm clueless as to the reason.......

I'll be looking at Lowes/Home Depot for some Non-Skid Paint or Acid Etch or something to fix this, as I'm too old to break a hip slipping on a wet patio. (not that you are ever young enough to slip, but you know what I mean) I'm tired of living with this problem and a need to fix it........

Thanks for listening to me.

[espo]

I would think a lot would depend on how much you want to spend to correct your problem. I have seen some paints offered at Home Depot that have you adding some fine sand to the finish before it dries. This would give you some better footing when wet. Problems may be that in time the paint doesn't adhere over time and starts to lift becoming bad looking. There are companies that will put down a cap type layer of concrete and use big rubber stamps to put a design in the new concrete as it dries. This would be a lot more money, but as you say you both love your home and plan to stay, so maybe you can justify the expense. I suggest looking on line at the DIY Network for home improvement ideas. You are only limited by your budget kind of like everything else in life. Good luck to you on your DIY project. 

[OldTrucker]

Surprised after this long the surface hasn't started to chip and flake up.

Saw this on a lot of driveways and garage floors in the late 80's early 90's. Don't know why anyone would want it that shiny and slick!

 

[stavanzer]

For Concrete lain in 1986, it is in very good condition. Almost no weathering at all.

I'm still at a loss as to how to fix the slippery finish.

[JohnU]

One idea might be sandblasting the surface. I’ve checked some YouTube videos and web sites that describe the process. Depending on the grit used, it can be done to clean, even out color, add decoration or apply a textured finish. Could be a more affordable alternative than skim coating more concrete.

[Dave Ambrose]

I remember that finish. It was A Thing(tm) for a while. Don't know why they thought that was a good idea. 

You might be able to just etch the concrete to get rid of the slickness. I'd try that first. 

Behr makes non-skid paint in various colors. We painted a shed floor with it, and the texture is just right. It goes on quickly with a short nap roller. It's also usable on concrete, but I would certainly acid etch the concrete first. I plan on using that paint in my garage, and maybe the patio, tho I really want to stain the patio concrete instead of painting it. 

[stitchdup]

On 6/14/2020 at 1:47 AM, JohnU said:

One idea might be sandblasting the surface. I’ve checked some YouTube videos and web sites that describe the process. Depending on the grit used, it can be done to clean, even out color, add decoration or apply a textured finish. Could be a more affordable alternative than skim coating more concrete.

I can recomend this, it works really well. I've blasted some old stone built houses and they came out brilliant, just needing a little pointing to even up the cement after. Just be sure you tape up all your windows and doors before starting or you'll be finding it for years after

Edited June 18, 2020 by stitchdup

[Spidercond]

I dry brushed light gray over a darker base, then dabbed on a bit of tan with a sponge to break things up. Gave it a nice weathered concrete look.

[stavanzer]

6 hours ago, Spidercond said:

I dry brushed light gray over a darker base, then dabbed on a bit of tan with a sponge to break things up. Gave it a nice weathered concrete look.

Thanks, Kyle.

I'm talking about my 1-1 patio, not a model....

[espo]

On 5/30/2020 at 10:10 PM, stavanzer said:

My house is relatively new (1986) and a tract home, not a custom build. In it's Day it was a faux "Upscale House" with High End features at a Tract Home price. (i.e. Fireplace, Vaulted Ceilings, a then trendy "Galley style Kitchen, enclosed Laundry Room and combined Brick/Stucco exterior finish.) It has a vague Semi-Mediterranean flavor to the outside, with California Spanish touches. It is a real Mishmash of styles, and pretty common for what was being built back then. It was (and STILL is!) a nice house.  Framed with 2"x6" studs and all copper plumbing, it is a real "Keeper". My Wife and I love it.

That said, there is a small (14' x 8') patio in the back with a small roof. It is a decent patio, if a bit small. But, when it was built, the concrete was done in the "Glass Smooth" surface finish that guarantee's that the slightest bit of water converts the patio into an Instant Ice Rink. I just finished my nightly watering and put my foot wrong. I saved myself tonite, at the cost of a wrenched shoulder, and an over-extended hip.  What I want to know, is what is with the mirror finish concrete in patios and walkways back then? The walkway from the driveway to the front door, has the same slippery finish, and is just as treacherous in the rainy season. Why was this done? I'm clueless as to the reason.......

I'll be looking at Lowes/Home Depot for some Non-Skid Paint or Acid Etch or something to fix this, as I'm too old to break a hip slipping on a wet patio. (not that you are ever young enough to slip, but you know what I mean) I'm tired of living with this problem and a need to fix it........

Thanks for listening to me.

Saw this pop up today, have you done anything with your patio or still trying to figure out what you want to do? Something I have seen advertised around here is a true epoxy coating like you would normally find in say a garage, but a local company is also adverting doing this on sidewalks and patios. Had this done in our garage a few years ago and if done right it is very durable and even my floor jacks don't seem to leave any marks. The colors are endless and many finish options available. 

[johnyrotten]

Look into a polyurea coating. More expensive than epoxy, doesn't chip and expands/ contracts with the concrete. My boss used it in certain parts of our shop.

Edited August 6 by johnyrotten

[stavanzer]

Dave & Johnny.

Job Uncertainties have kept me from having the money to fix it.

I do have a 8'x10' indoor/outdoor rug out there right now.

It's better than nothing.

Thanks for asking. 

[NOBLNG]

You could glue down some good outdoor carpet? Probably the cheapest option. The drawback is possible staining from spills, and if your roof doesn’t have much overhang it would get wet when it rains.

[TarheelRick]

37 minutes ago, NOBLNG said:

You could glue down some good outdoor carpet?

Personally, I would not recommend this option. When my father built the house I am living in, he put outdoor carpet on both outside porches. Now admitted that was 55 years ago, but it didn't take too many years before the weather took its toll on the carpet. And since it is glued down, they did not use Testor's orange tube, it is a real bear to get up. When I enclosed the front porch I tried to pull it up, gave up on that rather quickly. Instead laid down a layer of 3/8" plywood and some laminated flooring.