Mike Chernecki Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) Hi Steve, I mentioned this when you were building your '69. Does the '68 have the sunken in area on the passenger side door, both the '69 and '70 have it? Also, I removed the extra door crease on my '70 in the pictures. Edited September 16, 2020 by Mike Chernecki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Mike Chernecki said: Hi Steve, I mentioned this when you were building your '69. Does the '68 have the sunken in area on the passenger side door, both the '69 and '70 have it? Also, I removed the extra door crease on my '70 in the pictures. I'm not really seeing anything noticeable. If there is, it's not pronounced enough to warrant any extra attention. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Getting a start on the engineering required to mate the Revell Charger chassis parts to the Coronet body. As you well know, this is probably the most important procedure when combining these sort of parts between kits. Screw something up now and you pay for it down the road. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 The next order of business was to eliminate those big and bulky grille backing plates. This is something I wish that I had done on my '69. They do nothing for the appearance under the hood, and they will just be a problem later when it's time to add head light buckets. I've also been mulling over the options for continuing the door panel pattern into the rear seat area once the convertible top wells have been removed. I thought about casting the finely fluted part of the front door panel to be used in the rear, but I wasn't confident on that one, so I decided to make completely new panels to be added once the old portion was cut out and removed. This way I can replace all of that detail through out the entire interior so it is all even. I made this panel by simply gluing lengths of very thinly stretched sprue to a piece of sheet plastic. Now I can cut out pieces of this panel to the size and shape desired to be added to the door panels as needed. This is enough for one side, so another will need to be constructed. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatz4u Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Hey Steve, were you a watch maker at one time??? nice detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Nice! How are you able to stretch that sprue so evenly? Mine would be thick and thin in places, I'm afraid! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 41 minutes ago, thatz4u said: Hey Steve, were you a watch maker at one time??? nice detail Hardly Al. Keep watching. I'm afraid that after looking at what it's going to take to get these door cards to look right, things are going to get ugly! Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, Bucky said: Nice! How are you able to stretch that sprue so evenly? Mine would be thick and thin in places, I'm afraid! LOL I just heat the sprue until it gets soft and sags and then pull on the ends with even pressure. Slowly for thicker pieces, and more quickly for thinner. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky1943 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Steven, you really have talent for turning plastic into high art! I enjoy following your progress as much as the finished car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 52 minutes ago, Husky1943 said: Steven, you really have talent for turning plastic into high art! I enjoy following your progress as much as the finished car! Thank you Rob. The more I look at these door cards and what it's going to take to get the rear to match the front, the more I realize that it's going to take really drastic measures to do it. I've pretty much decided that almost the entire door card is going to have to be scratch built! This is pretty much all that I'm saving from the original door panel. I'm only keeping this to help with positioning of the dash board, and the "Coronet" badging on the upper door portion. Everything else is going to have to be made. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 This is the general direction that I'm headed. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Be very careful in making the upper ridge section. In the 1/1 panel this pattern is VERY light in person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, gtx6970 said: Be very careful in making the upper ridge section. In the 1/1 panel this pattern is VERY light in person Yeah, I know Bill, but I don't see any way to make it that fine. Hopefully by the time the paint is applied, it will look close. Even the original panels in the MPC kit are nowhere near that fine. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972coronet Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I'm surprised by the amount of flash on the forward of the fenders , and onto the header panel ---- for an all-new body , on its first run ? Those inner door panels look like tonnes of fun to replicate / scratch-build . From what I'm seeing of your work there , the piping looks to be in-scale (esp. , like you stated , after primer and paint work as a de facto fill ) . Was there a regular hardtop interior tub ever produced for the '68-'70 Coronet annuals ? Were they all convertible-based ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, 1972coronet said: Was there a regular hardtop interior tub ever produced for the '68-'70 Coronet annuals ? Were they all convertible-based ? No, All the original interior tubs were convertible only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972coronet Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, gtx6970 said: No, All the original interior tubs were convertible only I have the first Round2 run of the 1970 Super Bee ( c.2012 ) , but I never paid attention to its interior tub . Doesn't Harts Parts make a resin 1970 'Bee tub with hardtop panels , sans console ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972coronet Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, 1972coronet said: Doesn't Harts Parts make a resin 1970 'Bee tub with hardtop panels , sans console ? Answered my own query : https://hartspartsresin.com/product/70-dodge-coronet-super-bee-non-console-interior-4-speed-tub/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 hours ago, gtx6970 said: Be very careful in making the upper ridge section. In the 1/1 panel this pattern is VERY light in person That lighter red part looks to be a solid sheet of embossed vinyl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Bucky said: That lighter red part looks to be a solid sheet of embossed vinyl. I'm sure it is. Unfortunately for me, it's a very intricate design that's not going to be easy to duplicate. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, 1972coronet said: Answered my own query : https://hartspartsresin.com/product/70-dodge-coronet-super-bee-non-console-interior-4-speed-tub/ I'm a little confused by the Hart's parts photo of that interior. The description says non convertible, yet the photo clearly depicts a convertible tub with the top mechanism wells and full arm rests. A true non convertible interior would have the same design of panel as the front with small arm rests. Steve Oops! My mistake. It says "non console". (all I can see on my screen on the website is "Non-Con") It's still a convertible tub. Edited September 18, 2020 by StevenGuthmiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) Most annual kits from the 60s that had both a hardtop and a convertible version have convertible interiors in the hardtop. There are many examples. This resin interior tub was no doubt mastered from a kit part. Edited September 18, 2020 by Rob Hall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972coronet Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said: It says "non console". (all I can see on my screen on the website is "Non-Con") It's still a convertible tub I'm likely going to buy one of those tubs (and the separate bench seat) for the '70 'Bee I have . I wonder if one were to cut the rear bench down the centre ( in a "V" shape or a horizontal slice ) and moved the interior quarters outward a similar amount... how much trouble would that "bee" ? Certainly , your '68 R/T (same pattern as the '500' trim , IIRC) is a different animal from the '70 pattern (both seating and doors / quarters) ... heretofore the challenge . Harts Parts are excellent , at least in my experiences with his offerings . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Both the 68 and 69 MPC Coronet kits back then were hardtop and convertible versions. Both had the exact same conv interior tub. The original 1970 Coronet also had a convertible interior tub, even though there was no conv version of the kit made back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just now, gtx6970 said: The original 1970 Coronet also had a convertible interior tub, even though there was no conv version of the kit made back then There was a convertible promo, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just now, Rob Hall said: There was a convertible promo, I think. Not in 1970. Actually there was no 1970 Coronet promo of any kind. MPC 2 door hardtop kit only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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