WITB Hasegawa Toyota Supra A70 3.0T Turbo

[martinfan5]

Latest new tooling from Hasegawa, released just before Christmas.

 

[gasman]

I wonder if the lhd dash from the tamiya kit would fit?

[Rodent]

In the early 90s, I rented a fairly new condo in a small complex. One afternoon there was a "maintenance man" changing light bulbs and making minor repairs to the common area. Older guy, wearing the jumpsuit type of coveralls. Strange thing was that his bulbs and other supplies were in one of these turbo Supras, and it badly needed a wash. Thought he was a pretty well paid maintenance guy to be driving a $40k car. He came over and chatted me up about my Fox body Mustang and my '68 Mustang in the garage. Turns out that he was the owner of my block and one other and didn't trust the property management company to keep up the place.

Always thought these were cool looking cars and this looks like a nice kit. Do wish it had the choice of LHD though.

[Faust]

What's the point of the separate hood, if you don't have an engine under there? 

I do like those, though. I have the Tamiya. 

Wait... did I see seat-backs on that kit? Man, it's already whooping the Tamiya's backside if that's the case!

[WGaree]

3 minutes ago, Faust said:

What's the point of the separate hood, if you don't have an engine under there? 

I do like those, though. I have the Tamiya. 

Wait... did I see seat-backs on that kit? Man, it's already whooping the Tamiya's backside if that's the case!

hood could separate for possible future variations, same with the front bumper being separate   parts layout would seem to suggest plans for something more race oriented (i’m only speculating based on the second front seat being its own tree) 

and yes i agree those look awfully similar to a full seat back for those front seats 

[martinfan5]

This is the next variation of this kit, due out in Feb

 

[niteowl7710]

I would expect they would have to, at some point, do a LHD dash board if they want to be able to produce any of the race cars that ran at the 24hrs of Spa, or elsewhere in the ETCC because those were all built/fielded by Toyota Belgium and were LHD models.  The Supras didn't have a long life in JTCC with the 1987 Season cars - which is the one the Tamiya kit represents and needs a different front bumper being the most successful.  The '88 cars were mildly successful, but JTCC was dominated by the Ford Sierra RS500, and the '89 cars (the blue ones sponsored by Bijo) got a pair of seconds, but were otherwise field fillers as the 1989 seasons started the 5 year romping of the R32 GT-R.  Also the JTCC cars were only ever a pair fielded by Team Tom's, which if Hasegawa were to backdate the car to 1987 still means there are a grand total of 6 of them to be built to represent ALL of them that ever ran.  There are at least 9 of them that ran from 1987-1990 in the 24hrs of Spa, including the infamous Bastos liveried one that is always one of the most requested versions of the Gr. A Supra.

A LHD racecar would begat a LHD road car, as that was the evolution of the 240Z.  A kit that has sold well enough to need another run done this month.

Edited January 14, 2021 by niteowl7710

[fumi]

On 1/14/2021 at 2:23 PM, niteowl7710 said:

I would expect they would have to, at some point, do a LHD dash board if they want to be able to produce any of the race cars that ran at the 24hrs of Spa, or elsewhere in the ETCC because those were all built/fielded by Toyota Belgium and were LHD models.

The European fielded cars were the pre-facelift version and would need an entirely new body to change the side molding and rear license plate housing, I doubt Hasegawa would go that far.  The post-facelift version as made by Hasegawa seemed to have raced in Spa in RHD config, and can be easily produced from the existing tooling.

[Erik Smith]

So the stock version Jonathon posted above - it comes with a bare interior tub - similar to a stripped or race interior? I kind of like the look but? 

[niteowl7710]

1 hour ago, Erik Smith said:

So the stock version Jonathon posted above - it comes with a bare interior tub - similar to a stripped or race interior? I kind of like the look but? 

Yeah the R32 is the same way, it's the concession to using the tooling for both street and race versions without tooling up two entirely separate interior platforms.

[pius222]

On 1/13/2021 at 6:28 PM, WGaree said:

hood could separate for possible future variations, same with the front bumper being separate   parts layout would seem to suggest plans for something more race oriented (i’m only speculating based on the second front seat being its own tree) 

and yes i agree those look awfully similar to a full seat back for those front seats 

After several variation in 2024, still no engine.

[pius222]

On 12/30/2023 at 12:12 AM, Spottedlaurel said:

@Camaro lover Tamiya's recently reissued Toyota Soarer has the 7M engine, it's a proper full depth one with transmission, not just the top half on a plate.

This is the older issue. By coincidence I happened to take a photo of a 1:1 example in the summer:

Would be period correct for the Supra.

I also have one of the very nice Hasegawa versions, reading the above has got me thinking about doing the same thing. I'll have the 7M spare as I'm looking to drop a Celsior/LS400 V8 into my Soarer.

The only thing I suspect the Hasegawa kit won't have is a LHD dashboard. If you were desperate to build it that way I could let you have one from Tamiya's older Supra Mk3 kit, as that has both LHD and RHD. Might not be quite as accurate as the Hasegawa, but would be a starting point and perhaps some of the detail could be swapped over?

Have you gotten this to work?  I have both kits, but not sure where to begin cutting on the hasegawa supra chassis nor the soarer engine bay.

[niteowl7710]

10 hours ago, pius222 said:

After several variation in 2024, still no engine.

Hasegawa hasn't put an engine in anything since the 1980s in plastic form, and the early 90s in the few kits that got the "High Detail" upgrade with white metal parts.

[Spottedlaurel]

15 hours ago, pius222 said:

Have you gotten this to work?  I have both kits, but not sure where to begin cutting on the hasegawa supra chassis nor the soarer engine bay.

That would imply I'd got beyond the point of daydreaming about it! Sadly not yet, but you inspired me to take a look at both of mine and have a think......

I guess it depends how thorough/accurate you want to be. As a minimum, and assuming you want to use the radiator and a/c condensor from the Soarer, everything in red. The Supra looks to have a manual 'box, but the Soarer is suto, so optional as to what you do there. It would be nice to keep that member that supports the radiator, but everything gets concealed by an undertray so it's down to you how detailed you want to get on something that won't be seen.

The Soarer's engine block looks to be a little shorter than the Supra's but the 'box is longer so it balances out. The sumps are similar at least.

When seeing the extra detail on the admittedly much more recent Hasegawa kit it is a shame they don't do a full engine.

The other thing will be what you want to add under the hood, the Hasegawa kit is a bit basic there as it's not designed to be viewed. But at least the hood is a separate panel so doesn't need to be cut open.

Overall it doesn't look like a simple plug-and-play swap, but would be satisfying when done.

Edited June 23, 2024 by Spottedlaurel

[Chuck Kourouklis]

On 6/22/2024 at 5:47 PM, niteowl7710 said:

Hasegawa hasn't put an engine in anything since the 1980s in plastic form, and the early 90s in the few kits that got the "High Detail" upgrade with white metal parts.

Well, 'cept for this 'n, right?

and MAN, they're goin' for dollars squared right now, if not cubic.

[Justin Porter]

1 hour ago, Chuck Kourouklis said:

Well, 'cept for this 'n, right?

and MAN, they're goin' for dollars squared right now, if not cubic.

That and the handful of new-tool F1 kits that Hasegawa did in 1/20th like their exquisite Lotus 79 and Ferrari 312T. Of course, both are currently out of production and also worth small fortunes each as well.

[Chuck Kourouklis]

That's RIGHT.  Plumb forgot the 1/20 and seeing how I'm enjoying the Salvinos Indy Car right now, I mighta remembered. ?

[niteowl7710]

7 hours ago, Chuck Kourouklis said:

Well, 'cept for this 'n, right?

and MAN, they're goin' for dollars squared right now, if not cubic.

Honestly, I thought that kit was older than it is...from back when they made the 328s.