W Humble Posted April 30, 2022 Posted April 30, 2022 Issue 213: IF exhibitor Jarel Wolfe exhibited his neato ramp rod as a Dodge on pg. 45, and Tom Valento believed it, they are mistaken. It's a White 3000 tilt-cab, built during most of the 'fifties. I know, because our family (Armor Van & Storage) bought one new in 1952, and later I owned it in the 00's. Came as both gas and Diesel, and ours had the large wider sleeper cab. I'm converting a resin repop to that configuration for a car-hauler flatbed, based on a Ford C-Series chassis with big V-8 power as a car hauler. We oughtta' get these things right, huh?! 1
Ace-Garageguy Posted April 30, 2022 Posted April 30, 2022 One of my all-time favorite truck designs, the White 3000...
W Humble Posted May 1, 2022 Author Posted May 1, 2022 Our 3000 is still around; moribund with a poor repaint -- breaks my heart to see it now. It was a good driver, being gasoline (original flathead six replaced by later model overhead after about 1 million miles --so my step-dad claimed) with 5-speed and Brownie. I removed the fifth-wheel to make it a simple flatbed -- hence the model project -- and converted the electric cab-tilt to hydraulic, etc. Just too expensive for one guy to restore to what it deserved! Known as 'The Green Hornet'.
traditional Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) Years ago , my twin brother, Larry, built a stock White 3400 (diesel version of the 3000) using mostly brass and some modified diecast body parts. He had a service manual to reference all the parts and proportions, etc. Even the 35 foot trailer was mostly hand fabricated brass. The model and build were featured in MCM #187 Edited May 1, 2022 by traditional 6
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 ^^^ Damm. That is absolutely wonderfully beautiful.
Cool Hand Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, traditional said: Years ago , my twin brother, Larry, built a stock White 3400 (diesel version of the 3000) using mostly brass and some modified diecast body parts. He had a service manual to reference all the parts and proportions, etc. Even the 35 foot trailer was mostly hand fabricated brass. The model and build were featured in MCM #187 Wow!! that is an impressive amount work to create that truck. Amazing skill and dedication. Edited May 1, 2022 by Cool Hand
W Humble Posted May 1, 2022 Author Posted May 1, 2022 Yes, indeed! I have that article in the box with my resin project -- as inspiration! I think the original DC cab is the basis for the resin cab, provenance unknown because it was a gift from my truck-modelin' nephew. There were many versions of the base 3000, and it sold very well, esp as an inter-urban rig. I tried to win the 'Space Patrol' rocket in the '50s, which was based on a 3000 straight chassis; remember telling my Dad "We boys could put the rocket ship in the back yard, and you could have the new truck for a job" which got a wry look, because he was already an vice-superintendent of schools! Ralston-Purina sponsored the 'Space Patrol' show (or was it 'Tom Corbett, Space Cadet"?) and the rig can be searched on-line. Make an interesting build, esp as a diorama! We used our 3000 as a yard-mule after switching to White/Freightliners (13-speed Road Rangers; some shifting!) It was swiped one night, but the thieves (probably joy-riders) didn't know about the CA 'spring brakes' that were added about 1963, and without enough air, the tractor stopped in the middle of an intersection! The old White had a red-jeweled light in the middle of the dash-board top that signaled to the enforcement folks that you had air pressure below 40-pounds. Guess they thought it was bling?! Step-dad had it about half restored when he passed, about 15 years ago. Oh, the stories!!
W Humble Posted May 1, 2022 Author Posted May 1, 2022 This is ;our' White 3000, posed in front of Fremont Ford plant, new in '52. Trailer was a 1942 35-foot Utility furniture van, large for the time. Story: Step-dad tilted the cab at White Motors in Stockton once, forgetting his 4-cell flashlight in the sleeper; it fell right through the windshield -- which luckily they had in stock!!
Scott Colmer Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 So I'm looking at the truck that was featured in MCM. Wow, just Wow! I go back to I can see who built it. " Ahh Cliff Read. No Wonder!" Great stuff, Cliff. I always admired all your street rods, but I had no idea you did the same with trucks. Amazing work!
traditional Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 18 hours ago, Scott Colmer said: So I'm looking at the truck that was featured in MCM. Wow, just Wow! I go back to I can see who built it. " Ahh Cliff Read. No Wonder!" Great stuff, Cliff. I always admired all your street rods, but I had no idea you did the same with trucks. Amazing work! Thank-you for the kind words, Scott. But actually, That White 3400TD Tractor/trailer model was done by my twin brother, Larry.
misterNNL Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/1/2022 at 10:40 AM, Cool Hand said: Wow!! that is an impressive amount work to create that truck. Amazing skill and dedication. I have the greatest admiration for that level of dedication and craftsmanship. Top shelf stuff!
Scott Colmer Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 4:54 AM, traditional said: Thank-you for the kind words, Scott. But actually, That White 3400TD Tractor/trailer model was done by my twin brother, Larry. Ahhh, so modeling talent is genetic.
Scott Colmer Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 Mr. Humble, Did you post your build on the truckers page? I would like to check out your work. Scott Freeman Colmer
W Humble Posted June 28, 2022 Author Posted June 28, 2022 Scott: Call me 'Wick' (not Mr.) -- to paraphrase what the non-coms (which I became, as a SP5, +-) 'You don't have to call me 'sir'; I work for a living!" No photos yet; not really finished! I have posted with trucks/commercials as I was trying to find an early '60's Dodge Power-Wagon kit or resin to build 'my' USFS Class III fire tanker from 1968 -- and no joy! It was my third season as Foreman, 'Red Card' rated Crew Boss: Tanker 333 was a '62 P-W, 100-gallon slip-in unit in regular w.b. Dodge with 4WD, (oc!) and the crummy A-series 318 V-8. I say this because one of our Forest mechanics had a nice side business buying used 2-bbl. intakes and reselling them to their shop to replace the ones that cracked through the exhaust heat riser and intake ports under the carb. Even our '56 Dodge Sierra wagon had this affliction on it's A-273, much to mom's chagrin. Well, I hope my White 3000 'labor of love' will be posted this year -- with a late '50's style Altered Model A (the old Mono A-bone phaeton kit, still with it's 1961 candy truquoise paint and decals on the back! Wick
Dave Darby Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 On 5/1/2022 at 10:25 AM, traditional said: Years ago , my twin brother, Larry, built a stock White 3400 (diesel version of the 3000) using mostly brass and some modified diecast body parts. He had a service manual to reference all the parts and proportions, etc. Even the 35 foot trailer was mostly hand fabricated brass. The model and build were featured in MCM #187 Holy cow, that is a work of art.
Chuck Most Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 Tom Valenta, not Valento or whatever gibberish you typed. Maybe work on being "getting things right" yourself before calling making a stink about other people dropping the ball. ? 1
W Humble Posted March 5, 2023 Author Posted March 5, 2023 Chuck, I've been working on 'getting things right' for about 70 years, from when I built my first plastic kit, one of Aurora's 'Famous Fighters' Spitfire. So, dropping the ball is okay with you? A mis-typed vowel doesn't seem like much of an issue, but I apologize to Tom. Okie dokie? Wick
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