Allan31 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 As I said, stunning work Pierre. Since CLEARLY you are the master of the brush, I would suggest looking to other masters who have weathered with brush... Doesn't seem to be too much brake dust to worry about but bug and road splatters are there for sure. For the windshield I would pick you favorite bug color and thin so it is transparent. The car I would start with your silver darkened slightly and also transparent. Stipple both with a small fine sponge or little brush. Build up opacity as you see fit. Hope this helps, best of luck. Of course test out on spare windshields and bodies. 1
Pierre Rivard Posted March 31, 2024 Author Posted March 31, 2024 Baby steps starting the weathering. First decision was to start with a flat clear (after decals), then oiled earth wash. Step two was to simulate spills from refueling 3
Pierre Rivard Posted March 31, 2024 Author Posted March 31, 2024 I decided to pause weathering and get the body to chassis integration finished. I did not know how much manipulation would be needed and how I could damage weathering effects so better get that out of the way. Good decision...despite countless test fitting during the build this step had to be done multiple times as more interference points popped up. Now these two are bonded for life. 3
Pierre Rivard Posted March 31, 2024 Author Posted March 31, 2024 Weathering of the underbody was done to reflect mostly toad dust accumulation. Everything had previously received dark oiled earth washes and I completed the weathering with light ochre yellow pigments. Tomorrow I will be tackling the next phase of the exterior body weathering. 3
Pierre Rivard Posted April 3, 2024 Author Posted April 3, 2024 The rest of weathering... with these products...and the results. Might need to tweak some more...but could make it worse...not sure... 2
kensar Posted April 3, 2024 Posted April 3, 2024 I think it looks good. My opinion is that light weathering is better than overdone. 1
absmiami Posted April 3, 2024 Posted April 3, 2024 Do you apply the Valleyo pigments w a brush and do you thin them first ? Mite try them on my Maser …
Pierre Rivard Posted April 3, 2024 Author Posted April 3, 2024 4 hours ago, kensar said: I think it looks good. My opinion is that light weathering is better than overdone. Thanks Ken, I agree. I did touch up a few overdone areas with light slate grey pigments to tone it down and it looks more balanced that way.
Pierre Rivard Posted April 3, 2024 Author Posted April 3, 2024 3 hours ago, absmiami said: Do you apply the Valleyo pigments w a brush and do you thin them first ? Mite try them on my Maser … Personally I just like to slowly dry brush the pigments one little spot at a time. I'm still working out the technique over silver but I found it was easier to do on a red car (like your Maser?). Matt clear after decals, oiled earth wash and then dry pigments. 1
1959scudetto Posted April 3, 2024 Posted April 3, 2024 Excellent weathering, Pierre - just the right amount of road dust and grime, especially the soot behind the side exhaust!
MarkJ Posted April 3, 2024 Posted April 3, 2024 It looks astonishingly real to me. Looks like it's been through the ringer on the tour of Italy it has just taken. How many total miles did that race cover and how many days were they at it? I remember watching a movie back in the sixtys that had Kirk Douglas in it and part of the movie was about the Mille Miglia. Can't remember the name of it.
MarkJ Posted April 3, 2024 Posted April 3, 2024 the movie was called "The Racers" and it was made in 1955. Below is the link https://www.google.com/search?q=Kirk+Douglas+movie+about+the+Italian+race+Mille+Miglia&sca_esv=82662e44566a7af0&sca_upv=1&source=hp&ei=zdENZuOKEKnFkPIP9OmZ-AM&iflsig=ANes7DEAAAAAZg3f3cmUq1iY6rp5S_oAqauNvp7Y6dTr&ved=0ahUKEwijpcn0haeFAxWpIkQIHfR0Bj8Q4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=Kirk+Douglas+movie+about+the+Italian+race+Mille+Miglia&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:5a9f8fb1,vid:c9yeKLeqep4,st:0
MarkJ Posted April 3, 2024 Posted April 3, 2024 Pierre, the Mille Miglia is in the first 20 minutes of the movie which is about 1 hour and 23 minutes long. It's really worth a look at. Pretty cool for a movie made back in 1955. The cars in the movie get very weathered so they tryed to get it right.
Pierre Rivard Posted April 4, 2024 Author Posted April 4, 2024 15 hours ago, MarkJ said: It looks astonishingly real to me. Looks like it's been through the ringer on the tour of Italy it has just taken. How many total miles did that race cover and how many days were they at it? I remember watching a movie back in the sixtys that had Kirk Douglas in it and part of the movie was about the Mille Miglia. Can't remember the name of it. In 1955 the distance was 992 miles. It's a race against the clock and the clock does not stop at check points (about 20 of them) and refueling stops. The Moss/Jenkinson team started at 7:22 am and crossed the finish at 17:29 for a winning time of 10:07 at an average of 97mph. The Fangio car I am building started at 6:58 and finished at 17:37 for a total time of 10:39, driving alone and running on 7 (one cylinder fuel feed broken) for half the race. On public roads, crossing dozens of towns, crazy stuff!
Pierre Rivard Posted April 4, 2024 Author Posted April 4, 2024 14 hours ago, MarkJ said: Pierre, the Mille Miglia is in the first 20 minutes of the movie which is about 1 hour and 23 minutes long. It's really worth a look at. Pretty cool for a movie made back in 1955. The cars in the movie get very weathered so they tryed to get it right. pretty cool stuff, and the real race footage in the movie shows what kind of roads they were dealing with. I doubt modern race drivers would man up for that.
Pierre Rivard Posted April 4, 2024 Author Posted April 4, 2024 I toned down and finessed the weathering and happy with the results. So this one goes into waiting mode until I receive the set of wheels from Jason. 1
MarkJ Posted April 4, 2024 Posted April 4, 2024 I watched the whole movie this morning. Can you tell what kind of cars they used? Of course, they had to put fake logos on them for the movie. For a 1955 movie it holds up pretty well with no cgi whatsoever. Of course, all the racing scenes were on a sound stage but still very entertaining.
MarkJ Posted April 4, 2024 Posted April 4, 2024 (edited) I like what you did to the updated weathering. All you need now is those great wheels you have on order. Really looking forward to final photos. The orange Porsche in the background. What kit is that and where did you get it? Edited April 4, 2024 by MarkJ
1959scudetto Posted April 4, 2024 Posted April 4, 2024 Is this the Jägermeister 934 from Tamiya or Revell in the background?
Pierre Rivard Posted April 5, 2024 Author Posted April 5, 2024 22 hours ago, MarkJ said: I watched the whole movie this morning. Can you tell what kind of cars they used? Of course, they had to put fake logos on them for the movie. For a 1955 movie it holds up pretty well with no cgi whatsoever. Of course, all the racing scenes were on a sound stage but still very entertaining. You got me curious and into research mode. The 2 cars featured in the Mille Miglia are Ferraris and were owned by Fox Studios and entered in the 54 race (no results though). This enabled them to get race footage in addition to the studio work. Both of them are still "with us"
Pierre Rivard Posted April 5, 2024 Author Posted April 5, 2024 16 hours ago, 1959scudetto said: Is this the Jägermeister 934 from Tamiya or Revell in the background? Tamiya... I need relief from complicated builds after the Alfa 8C, Ferrari 250swb and MB 300SLR...
MarkJ Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 Thanks , Pierre. Thats some awesome information. I kind of figured they must have been Ferraris. You might not have seen my request about the Porsche you have pictured in your build above because it was a late edit to the thread. But what is the Porsche and what kit is that?
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