40 ford a radical art deco custom

[customline]

1 hour ago, milo1303s said:

OH I LOVE THAT!!! I want one ?

[Bullybeef]

2 hours ago, Jim Dodson said:

The 'hack and see if it fits approach' to design brings Ian Rousel to mind.

I like where this appears to be going, especially the roadster with the undercut front fenders leading edges. Looking forward to seeing more.

Thank you, I’m not familiar with the name Ian Rousel? There was a lot of trial fitting before some cuts were made. Working on the chassis atm hopefully have a worthy update soon. 

[Bullybeef]

8 minutes ago, customline said:

.......and I would like to add to that...CARSON TOP!  (I think that's what's in the '50 ragtop kit) Yes, a Carson top would be the absolute right thing for a pre-war custom Ford.

That would be a nice addition Jim

[customline]

37 minutes ago, Bullybeef said:

That would be a nice addition Jim

  If you can't find any, I can go look in the garage.

[Bullybeef]

I put on my “Critical Thinking” cap last night and have reviewed my work so far. There are a number of imbalances, some I can live with some I will not! The biggest concern for me is the quality of the shell I started with. It has a large number of flaws that I do not like. The fender unit that I started with was also very rough and in hindsight I made some cuts that were kind of unnecessary. But overall the concept is solid in my eyes, I do have another uncut fender unit that I can rework and probably make for a cleaner assembly. As for the body I’m down to only one shell that I could possibly use and redo a fair amount of the work that is already started, a cleaner example will provide me with less cleanup/putty work later in this process. 
I have moved forward with the chassis and getting it to a useful period ride height. 
Thanks for looking and commenting I’m not done with this yet.

[Jim Dodson]

15 hours ago, Bullybeef said:

Thank you, I’m not familiar with the name Ian Rousel? There was a lot of trial fitting before some cuts were made. Working on the chassis atm hopefully have a worthy update soon. 

Ian Rousel has a cable TV show called "Full Custom Garage" and he is always slicing and dicing very disparate junkyard pieces and then figuring out how to make things fit the design he has in his head.

[Bullybeef]

1 hour ago, Jim Dodson said:

Ian Rousel has a cable TV show called "Full Custom Garage" and he is always slicing and dicing very disparate junkyard pieces and then figuring out how to make things fit the design he has in his head.

Ahh that would make sense as to why I’ve never heard of him, I haven’t had cable tv since 2010. Did quick search on the google and he has a lot of talent( well a lot more than me haha). 

[Bullybeef]

The design team and myself got together and collectively agreed that some things were not going well for this build! What I mean is that I did some looking at the hackery I had created and decided I should start with a cleaner example that will facilitate some nicer work moving forward. Step one clean off the work bench and have it devoid of clutter and shrapnel. 
Then I  reached in the tickle trunk and came up with a Tudor body that had the roof harvested already, gently eased the cowl and doors from it and mated them to a cleaner rear section that had been deprived of its doors and roof. Trimmed off the excess body panels and mated that to the front section.

I will be redoing the fender section on the front and rear to clean up same mad scientist type cuts as well, I have them all mapped out and am awaiting fresh orders from the public works on when we can fire up the chop saws.

Thanks for stopping by, make sure to return the supplied ppe and wipe your feet on the way out!  

[Ace-Garageguy]

Very interesting.  

[TarheelRick]

Really digging this build. You have a good eye for design elements. Only change I would make is the flat inside of the rear fenders. All the rest of the body is round and smooth and the rear fenders should be also. Can't wait to see the bondo dust start flying.

[Bullybeef]

19 minutes ago, TarheelRick said:

Really digging this build. You have a good eye for design elements. Only change I would make is the flat inside of the rear fenders. All the rest of the body is round and smooth and the rear fenders should be also. Can't wait to see the bondo dust start flying.

Awww shucks, I’m just a guy cutting up some plastic haha, but thank you for the compliment. The rear fenders as well as the nose are next in line for some redesign work, the marketing department had a firm chat with the design department and have sent along a sternly worded memo to the works department to stop mucking about, end their tea break and get on with the actual work. 
I’m hoping that there will be very little bond dust. I’d much prefer to get the shapes close to fitting cleanly. If you have any suggestion for the rear please feel free to chime in. 

[Bullybeef]

1 hour ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Very interesting.  

I was wondering if you might sneak in here. I know this type of building is more up your alley than opening a box and plunking out a painted cookie cutter build. Have you any thoughts or comments you care to share? 

Edited October 22, 2024 by Bullybeef

[stitchdup]

i like where this is heading, if you added a fastback style roof it would be the mirror of somehing i've been thinking about

[Bullybeef]

52 minutes ago, stitchdup said:

i like where this is heading, if you added a fastback style roof it would be the mirror of somehing i've been thinking about

Thank you but I’ll be keeping with my vision of an art deco roadster, post war. 

[milo1303s]

21 hours ago, Bullybeef said:

Looks like something Peewee Herman would drive, that’s a no from me sir

Cool enough for comic book Batman !!! 

 

[Bullybeef]

@milo1303s Bob, while I can certainly appreciate that is correct for the era I’m looking to have my build sit in, it’s not a look that appeals to me. 

Edited October 22, 2024 by Bullybeef

[Ace-Garageguy]

3 hours ago, Bullybeef said:

I was wondering if you might sneak in here. I know this type of building is more up your alley than opening a box and plunking out a painted cookie cutter build. Have you any thoughts or comments you care to share? 

Well, since you asked...I think the lines flowed the best right around here, if you like the lighter more "dashing greyhound" look...

...or here if you want the heavier "road-crusher juggernaut" look of the completely faired front wheels. 

I think the "coachbuilt" molded in windshield frame works better with the overall theme, which is very "streamlined", very Deco, as you say.

Ride height is critical on something like this too, just enough to be barely drivable will look the best, and even the radius of the tires poking out from the lower edges of the fenders needs to be looked at carefully.

The hardest part is recognizing when you're right at the sweet spot, and stop. I started something kinda similar some time back, and totally screwed the pooch by tinkering too much.

[Bullybeef]

4 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Well, since you asked...I think the lines flowed the best right around here, if you like the lighter more "dashing greyhound" look...

...or here if you want the heavier "road-crusher juggernaut" look of the completely faired front wheels. 

I think the "coachbuilt" molded in windshield frame works better with the overall theme, which is very "streamlined", very Deco, as you say.

Ride height is critical on something like this too, just enough to be barely drivable will look the best, and even the radius of the tires poking out from the lower edges of the fenders needs to be looked at carefully.

The hardest part is recognizing when you're right at the sweet spot, and stop. I started something kinda similar some time back, and totally screwed the pooch by tinkering too much.

Thank you for your input Bill, I nixed the front fenders as it seemed I was using to much of the styling of the 41 Lincoln whereas the road crusher look of both front and rear faired wheels in my opinion felt more custom coachbuilt. I have quite a bit of refining to do as this is still in my eyes quite rough. I will revisit the front fenders and see if I can make them less heavy.

[Bullybeef]

Managed a little time at the bench and started some clean up work. I’ve gone back to the first iteration of the windshield frame as per Bills suggestion. Closed in the rear fender section and will keep the stark contrast between the bulbous outer to the flat inside. I think I have the ride height pretty darn nailed down. 

[milo1303s]

On 10/21/2024 at 8:54 PM, customline said:

OH I LOVE THAT!!! I want one ?

Not that one  !! I will take this one though !!!  btw it was about the front end not the colors or crappy rake just the shark nose 39 Graham nose like this one !

 

[customline]

5 hours ago, milo1303s said:

Not that one  !! I will take this one though !!!  btw it was about the front end not the colors or crappy rake just the shark nose 39 Graham nose like this one !

 

OK, but it's gotta have wheels.  

[Bullybeef]

Well all I’ve managed so far this week is a shot of primer to see where we head next.

[customline]

Let's get some primer on that hood, Bil. It would make it easier to visualize it

[Bullybeef]

53 minutes ago, customline said:

Let's get some primer on that hood, Bil. It would make it easier to visualize it

It will be a bit before that happens I’m afraid Jim. The weather turned foul overnight and it’s only plus 6 Celsius today(that’s 42 froggenhalves or a cold McDouble for the land that time forgot below Canada) . A bit Too cold for the old paint shed haha.

Edited October 29, 2024 by Bullybeef

[Spex84]

This is a really cool concept!
I sorta liked the version that had Lincoln front fenders, but to each his own. So many choices, right?
Here's a photoshop with a few thoughts. No pressure, I just liked it enough to start noodling with ideas:
-front fender trimmed at the bottom for better flow in side view, and bottom edge of fenders adjusted so there's no step where the skirt ends.
-lowered further until the rims are almost hidden in front, and completely hidden in the rear
-slight rearward raked stance
-since the theme seems to be "art deco skirted wheels" and the front is quite visually heavy, I added an art deco emblem to give it some zoom (not centered on the wheel, because the design theme is de-emphasizing the wheels anyway)
-if the tires have to be trimmed to fit up in the fenders, who will ever know? Haha.