Do you think we could see the 68,69 chevy impala and the sweat hogs dream machine return in 2025?

[robo37]

Do you think we could see the 68,69 chevy impala and the sweat hogs dream machine return in 2025? Would love to be able to build 1 had the sweat hogs years ago. but since we had the 60-67 impalas out be nice to see the 68 or 69 even both would be welcome 

[Justin Porter]

Forum member Andy Lesiak produces a 3d printed '68 Impala kit that's miles ahead of any tooling that might be in Round 2's possession. 

[Daddyfink]

They can bring this back and just add the Superfly parts, which I think is what the Superfly version was. 

[sfhess]

Right after the 67 Galaxie kit comes out.

 

[Robberbaron]

6 hours ago, Daddyfink said:

They can bring this back and just add the Superfly parts, which I think is what the Superfly version was. 

Unfortunately, the front end was altered for the Superfly car.  When MPC then brought out the Sweat Hogs version, the roof was then also hacked.  It's unfortunate, since most of the body remains completely stock, down to the factory Grand Prix emblems, etc.

Steve Goldman from Round 2 posts here regularly.  He has previously stated that they have NOT found this tooling in their inventory.  Too bad, since it looks like it wouldn't have been that hard to return it to a full stock '72 GP.

[Daddyfink]

10 hours ago, Robberbaron said:

Unfortunately, the front end was altered for the Superfly car.  When MPC then brought out the Sweat Hogs version, the roof was then also hacked.  It's unfortunate, since most of the body remains completely stock, down to the factory Grand Prix emblems, etc.

Steve Goldman from Round 2 posts here regularly.  He has previously stated that they have NOT found this tooling in their inventory.  Too bad, since it looks like it wouldn't have been that hard to return it to a full stock '72 GP.

Oh wow, I have never seen this kit in person and had no idea that they modded the tooling that much! Thanks for the pics and info. 

[Mark C.]

‘68 and ‘69 Impala would be on a must-buy list for me.  

The GP would be nice, but only if a stock version was buildable.  I wouldn’t be interested in a Sweat Hogs or Superfly version.

[espo]

On 12/19/2024 at 8:37 AM, Justin Porter said:

Forum member Andy Lesiak produces a 3d printed '68 Impala kit that's miles ahead of any tooling that might be in Round 2's possession. 

I would be interested in following your build of this '68 Chevrolet kit. This is either a Biscayne or a Bel Air two door post car rather than an Impala. The reason is I ordered a new '68 Bel Air two door big block car and would like to build a model of that car. 

[Justin Porter]

1 hour ago, espo said:

I would be interested in following your build of this '68 Chevrolet kit. This is either a Biscayne or a Bel Air two door post car rather than an Impala. The reason is I ordered a new '68 Bel Air two door big block car and would like to build a model of that car. 

I don't have one ordered myself. This is the picture Andy posted of one of his many different '68 Chevy kits. At the moment, I HAVE downloaded a 3D printing file for a car kit, but it's a curbside kit of a TVR Sagaris. 

[ranma]

sfhess, The 67 Galaxy maybe a decent kit, But it really don't have a following such as the 68-76 Impala/Caprice's has. How many 67 Galaxy low riders are there compared to that of the 60's/70's Impala/Caprice? How many "donk's?  Sorry but it's really The impala 68/69 that would sell. They seem to be more Popular than the 67 Galaxy's..

Edited December 24, 2024 by ranma

[sfhess]

On 12/22/2024 at 8:32 AM, ranma said:

sfhess, The 67 Galaxy maybe a decent kit, But it really don't have a following such as the 68-76 Impala/Caprice's has. How many 67 Galaxy low riders are there compared to that of the 60's/70's Impala/Caprice? How many "donk's?  Sorry but it's really The impala 68/69 that would sell. They seem to be more Popular tan the 67 Galaxy's..

I just mentioned it because there is another thread similar to this begging for a reissue of the 67 Galaxie kit

chill, bubba.

 

Edited December 23, 2024 by sfhess

[ranma]

22 hours ago, sfhess said:

similar to this begging for a reissue of the 65 Galaxie kit

Actually the thread is for the '67 Galaxy kit . Which I have read, and pretty well  state's the same thing I posted above.

Edited December 24, 2024 by ranma

[Carmak]

69 Impala:

An AMT 69 impala would be the most reasonable between the 68 and 69. A scan copy of the original AMT 69 body, hood, bumpers and valance would fit on the existing AMT 70 Impala parts like a glove. The dash and seats are essentially identical for 69 and 70. This would be similar to what was done to bring back the 64 Cutlass.

I just got a nice AMT 69 Impala rebuilder after looking for years so I am sure the 69 Impala will be announced soon  

68 Impala:

Hypothetically a new 68 Impala body, hood, bumpers and valance could be created for the 90's era 67 Impala kit, but Round2 has become resistant to make changes to 90's era tooling based on trouble they have had in the past. A promo clone kit would be more likely option, but this also presents a challenge as a promo style chassis would not work for lowrider builds which would be a natural for this car.

[Mark C.]

Would the ‘68 Impala chassis not be the same as the ‘70?

What I like about the Round 2 cloned kits is that they build up really nicely as is, but if you want to build some of them to a higher detail standard, you can combine them with one of the detailed ’90s kits.

For example, the ‘68 Coronets will fit on the ‘68 Road Runner (etc) chassis, the ‘71 Demon will work with the ‘71 Duster chassis, etc.

Likewise, a ‘68 Impala would work with the ‘67 Impala.

Anyhow, whether we see these or not, it’s interesting to discuss.  FWIW, I hardly see these threads as “begging for them”.  It’s a discussion board where we “discuss”… like kinda the idea of why the forum exists in the first place.

[sfhess]

7 hours ago, ranma said:

Actually the thread is for the said '67 Galaxy kit . Which I have read, and fairly states the same thing I posted here.

I fixed my typo, now you can fix yours.

[Can-Con]

7 hours ago, Carmak said:

69 Impala:

An AMT 69 impala would be the most reasonable between the 68 and 69. A scan copy of the original AMT 69 body, hood, bumpers and valance would fit on the existing AMT 70 Impala parts like a glove. The dash and seats are essentially identical for 69 and 70. This would be similar to what was done to bring back the 64 Cutlass.

I just got a nice AMT 69 Impala rebuilder after looking for years so I am sure the 69 Impala will be announced soon  

68 Impala:

Hypothetically a new 68 Impala body, hood, bumpers and valance could be created for the 90's era 67 Impala kit, but Round2 has become resistant to make changes to 90's era tooling based on trouble they have had in the past. A promo clone kit would be more likely option, but this also presents a challenge as a promo style chassis would not work for lowrider builds which would be a natural for this car.

Actually for a '68 Impala made from the '67 you'd need a complete new interior too. 

"a promo style chassis would not work for lowrider builds which would be a natural for this car." ,,, I beg to differ,,

These were built on the "promo chassis" they came with. Same chassis was used with minor exhaust changes by MPC for all their Impala and Caprices from '68 to '76. I have the complete run with my '69 and '70 being AMT, the rest are MPC.

I did use the AMT '70 chassis under this '69 but I could have used the MPC chassis under it as easily. 

, , and gratuitous pic of my '68. My was a convertible but had a missing windshield frame so I grafted on the roof from the newer '67 kit. Same chassis with minor exhaust differences as the '76.

Edited December 23, 2024 by Can-Con

[Carmak]

On 12/23/2024 at 10:56 AM, Mark C. said:

Would the ‘68 Impala chassis not be the same as the ‘70?

What I like about the Round 2 cloned kits is that they build up really nicely as is, but if you want to build some of them to a higher detail standard, you can combine them with one of the detailed ’90s kits.

For example, the ‘68 Coronets will fit on the ‘68 Road Runner (etc) chassis, the ‘71 Demon will work with the ‘71 Duster chassis, etc.

Likewise, a ‘68 Impala would work with the ‘67 Impala.

Anyhow, whether we see these or not, it’s interesting to discuss.  FWIW, I hardly see these threads as “begging for them”.  It’s a discussion board where we “discuss”… like kinda the idea of why the forum exists in the first place.

The AMT 70 Impala tooling was created in late 69 by modifying the AMT 69 Impala tooling. The 69 Body fits perfectly on the 70 interior and chassis. There was no AMT 68 Impala (the "For 68" AMT 68 Impala is a full custom 67 Impala) so there is in no AMT 68 Impala body to clone from. The only stock 68 Impala was made by MPC. Also as noted by other the 68 Interior is quite different from the 70 so a new interior would be needed.

I discussed why I don't think Round2 will use the 67 Impala. Since I made my post I was thinking about how they tooled up a 4dr HT body for the 67 so they might know enough about the 67 mold that they will expand it to a 68.

Edited December 25, 2024 by Carmak

[Carmak]

On 12/23/2024 at 4:14 PM, Can-Con said:

"a promo style chassis would not work for lowrider builds which would be a natural for this car." ,,, I beg to differ,,

"a promo style chassis would not work for lowrider builds which would be a natural for this car." - Poor choice of words on my part. The promo style chassis limits the type of lowrider build. A proper height tripod stance is "challenging" with a promo style chassis  

I really like the vinyl top and side moldings you added. 

I have 67(annual), "for 68", 69 & 70 for AMT and 68, 69, 72, 73, 74, 75 & 76 for MPC. I was already thinking a couple of them would get vinyl tops, your vinyl tops make that an easier decision.

"and a gratuitous pic of a 68"

Edited December 25, 2024 by Carmak

[Motor City]

[Ron Hamilton]

I had a busted up resin 68 Impala Fastback. So I combined it with the AMT 67 Impala SS427. I still have to work out the firewall and windshield wipers. Also, I want to redo the fender louvers. What do you think?

[Mark C.]

On 12/24/2024 at 11:30 PM, Carmak said:

The AMT 70 Impala tooling was created in late 69 by modifying the AMT 69 Impala tooling. The 69 Body fits perfectly on the 70 interior and chassis. There was no AMT 68 Impala (the "For 68" AMT 68 Impala is a full custom 67 Impala) so there is in no AMT 68 Impala body to clone from. The only stock 68 Impala was made by MPC. Also as noted by other the 68 Interior is quite different from the 70 so a new interior would be needed.

I discussed why I don't think Round2 will use the 67 Impala. Since I made my post I was thinking about how they tooled up a 4dr HT body for the 67 so they might know enough about the 67 mold that they will expand it to a 68.

Thanks for the clarification.  I had forgotten that the AMT ‘68 was basically a custom ’67.

So a ‘69 is possible by combining with the AMT ‘70 tool, but a ‘68 is possible only by cloning the MPC tool, which seems to be within the scope of what Round 2 is doing these days.  Then a builder could still kitbash with the newer ‘67 kit if they wanted a more detailed chassis.  Sounds like a win-win to me.  👍🏻

Anyhow, as I have said before, I’m more than happy with what they have done already and am continually amazed at the new announcements as they come along.  I don’t expect every kit to be cloned, but am thankful for whatever they do!  It’s a great time to be in the hobby!

[Ragtop Man]

I think a '68-9 Impala HT / Caprice / Bel Air mix of some type would be very commercial and cross a lot of boundaries. Street custom, low rider, light commercial, etc, etc.  It would be quite a sell to the decision board to say we need a '68 after we did a '67, versus a other unserved subjects. 

However, I doubt you get there by modifying existing tools, handsome Impala sport sedan notwithstanding. 

Even 'new tool' designs were late 90's products - pushing or over 25 years old now. Even if they were done in CAD, the software has changed radically for the better. 

It is less expensive and more effective to simply cut a new (albeit simplified) tool where the bulk of the design work can be applied where it really counts, getting the body interior and chrome really correct and clean. Let the detail freaks do their thing frame swapping, etc, just get the outside right and the rest will follow.