Model T, what is it?

[JPL-ACE]

I inherited a cute half-done model T and I don't know what kit it is from. It also is not 1/25 scale. I think it is 143:1 or 142:1 as they are fairly popular. I have the original frame and a modified frame and the modified sedan cabin. I think it is a 1915 Ford Model T Centerdoor sedan. Anyone have or know about it? Just curious. I am building it now with scrap (junkyard parts. See Phonebooth T in WIP, Thanks.

[peteski]

What kind of scale ratio is 143:1 or 142:1?  Do you simply mean 1:43 or 1/43 where the model is forty three times smaller than the actual object?  When you mentioned 1/25 scale you used proper nomenclature.  1:42 is not a scale I have heard of (but it might have been used by some older manufacturer).  Also for automotive subjects 1:32 is a popular scale. This one looks more like 1:32 model.

[RSchnell]

They look like remnants of the old Revell Highway Pioneer Model T kits. The 2nd pic is cutdown center door sedan. The first pic is what's left of a Torpedo Runabout.

[JPL-ACE]

1 hour ago, peteski said:

What kind of scale ratio is 143:1 or 142:1?  Do you simply mean 1:43 or 1/43 where the model is forty three times smaller than the actual object?  When you mentioned 1/25 scale you used proper nomenclature.  1:42 is not a scale I have heard of (but it might have been used by some older manufacturer).  Also for automotive subjects 1:32 is a popular scale. This one looks more like 1:32 model.

Sorry, I wrote the scale in reverse. It still means the same with a little logic. That is, a ratio of 143 to 1 if you are describing the large end first. In any case, 1:143 is the same as 1/143 and 1/25 is the same as 1:25. Google reports 1:143 as the most popular model scale and 1/25 is most popular scale for model cars. Your guess at 1:32 seems right. I guessed way wrong with 1:143. I think I meant 1:43 which is close to 1:32. Bigtruck commenter (in question forum) also thinks 1:32 and pointed to a Gowland and Gowland model that could be the one.

Thanks for your help.

[JPL-ACE]

7 minutes ago, RSchnell said:

Quote "They look like remnants of the old Revell Highway Pioneer Model T kits. The 2nd pic is cutdown center door sedan. The first pic is what's left of a Torpedo Runabout."

 

Thanks for the response. Your pic of the Pioneer Center door seems like a remake (not a re-issue) if the drawing is correct. My model does not have the box on the running board on the passenger side (nor room for it) but it has a canister on the drivers side. I take that as a clue I should see the Box in the pic show up on the model. It doesent. I think I see the frame in the bag of parts and it is not the same as my part, to my eye.

I think I will be content thinking this is a 1915 Ford Center Door cut down a wee bit 😉

Thanks again for the help.

[peteski]

4 hours ago, JPL-ACE said:

Sorry, I wrote the scale in reverse. It still means the same with a little logic. That is, a ratio of 143 to 1 if you are describing the large end first. In any case, 1:143 is the same as 1/143 and 1/25 is the same as 1:25. Google reports 1:143 as the most popular model scale and 1/25 is most popular scale for model cars. Your guess at 1:32 seems right. I guessed way wrong with 1:143. I think I meant 1:43 which is close to 1:32. Bigtruck commenter (in question forum) also thinks 1:32 and pointed to a Gowland and Gowland model that could be the one.

I would suggest not coming up with new scale conventions but sticking with the well established nomenclature already in use.

Still 143 doesn't seem to make sense.  143:1 scale would mean that the model is 143 times LARGER than the original 1:1 subject. That would be huge!  And 1:143 model would be tiny (a passenger car would be less than 1" long).  The one hundred you added to 43 is awkward.  But judging by your response you do understand the model scales.

Some early plastic model kits were not made to specific scale or even mention the scale on the box or in the instructions.  Some were made to "box scale" where the model would be made in a scale which would fit in standard size model kit box.

Edited February 26 by peteski

[JPL-ACE]

Just for your info, another car I may work on soon is about 2-3/4" long. Hot Wheels size but not a Hot Wheels car. With opening doors and trunk/hood. Stay tuned.

[peteski]

52 minutes ago, JPL-ACE said:

Just for your info, another car I may work on soon is about 2-3/4" long. Hot Wheels size but not a Hot Wheels car. With opening doors and trunk/hood. Stay tuned.

That sounds like possibly a 1:64 scale model (That is roughly Hot Wheels scale).  Smallest model I've built was 1:160 (shown sitting on a Quarter), but I also have a similar kit in 1:220 scale still to be built.

 

[NOBLNG]

When asking about kit origins or scale, it would help to show a photo next to a ruler or known (1/24 or 1/25) scale model. Much easier for responders to estimate the scale.

[rattle can man]

I don't think it is one of the Highway Pioneers. From the picture, it does not look like the Body has been modified. the Highway Pioneers on ScaleMates all have 1/4 windows, 4 doors, or convertible tops.

Further, All of the Aurora small scale Model Ts also have more windows and doors. But they did have a crude looking Hemi and mags.

[rattle can man]

I looked at 1:32, 1:35, 1:43, 1:48, and 1:56 scales.

[JPL-ACE]

4 hours ago, peteski said:

That sounds like possibly a 1:64 scale model (That is roughly Hot Wheels scale).  Smallest model I've built was 1:160 (shown sitting on a Quarter), but I also have a similar kit in 1:220 scale still to be built.

 

 

WOW, sitting on a quarter!, thats cool.

[JPL-ACE]

3 hours ago, NOBLNG said:

When asking about kit origins or scale, it would help to show a photo next to a ruler or known (1/24 or 1/25) scale model. Much easier for responders to estimate the scale.

Sorry, I thought about that later. Next time.