Gregg Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 nope. nada. zip. nein. eia. neut. Still no response from Pace either.
Chuck Most Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Dave- try using Westley's Bleech-Wite. That stuff can strip chrome plating in as little as an hour- often you can let it soak an hour or two, take out the sprue, and blast it under some hot water from the sink faucet and the chrome falls right off.
Chuck Most Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Guess that would depend on local codes. I know at my old shop we'd use it for cleaning and hose it off the floors into the drains, and the city never gave us grief over it.
Ben Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Has anyone bought a metallic purple one from Autoworld yet? I keep searching their website but I can't find them???
Chuck Most Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 They aren't listed as metallic purple, red, white, or whatever. You just kind of roll the dice and end up with whatever color you get.
Chuck Most Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 As far as the undercoat does, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. It's very consistent removing plating, not so much with the undercoat. Seems to depend on how thick it is.
Chuck Most Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Oh- and it (like Purple Power) seems to work best in a sealed container of some sort- I use a Glad clear plastic container with a snap-on lid.
Gregg Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 NO. The purple one will be available only from Auto World. The Metallic Red one is the "lottery" one, one in every case. The Purple is the Special One you can buy. I'll check with them and see when it will be listed and available.
oldscool Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Guess that would depend on local codes. I know at my old shop we'd use it for cleaning and hose it off the floors into the drains, and the city never gave us grief over it. When I was in my twenties I worked as a carb rebuilder and the shop owners flushed carb cleaner down the drain every day. You know, the kind that comes in a five gallon bucket and has a basket to dip the parts in. Very nasty stuff. But then, these guys were really behind the times. They took cash only and refused to work on any non-American car by telling the customer " we remember Pearl Harbor". This was during the 80s . gus Edited January 6, 2012 by oldscool
Chuck Most Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Sounds like a couple of the guys I used to work with. Funny thing is, I have a neighbor who's a WWII vet, he owns a Toyota, and has had a few Volkswagens (including a couple buggies) over the years. I figure if he can forgive and forget, somebody who didn't even live through it could as well. Now, regarding the purple Auto World copies- it's just like the red ones, right- only a handful of each will be molded in the metallic purple?
oldscool Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Love your avatar Chuck. I work with several young people who say "huh?" when I spring the BR549 joke on them. I keep forgetting that they have never seen Hee Haw. gus
Rob Hall Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Love your avatar Chuck. I work with several young people who say "huh?" when I spring the BR549 joke on them. I keep forgetting that they have never seen Hee Haw. gus Hmmmm...I think Chuck's avatar is an image from the movie 'Maximum Overdrive'...
tim boyd Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Today I took a few minutes to build the cardboard background from the new Round 2 reissue of the Manx kit and pose that Model Cars poster car on the background. Here's how it looks.....TIM By the way, if you've never heard of the Wiktor drive-in chain, it's because it doesn't exist. The name came from AMT's former Art Director Ken Wiktor. During the 1960's and early 1970's, a number of AMT's decal sheets included such "insider" messages...a sure sign of a team having fun! TIM
Gregg Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 Thanks, Tim! I hope that flyer gets a lot of new people interested in Model Cars!!!
High octane Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 When I was in my twenties I worked as a carb rebuilder and the shop owners flushed carb cleaner down the drain every day. You know, the kind that comes in a five gallon bucket and has a basket to dip the parts in. Very nasty stuff. But then, these guys were really behind the times. They took cash only and refused to work on any non-American car by telling the customer " we remember Pearl Harbor". This was during the 80s . gus "Back in the day" we used to drain our motor oil in the city sewers.
Casey Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 NO. The purple one will be available only from Auto World. The Metallic Red one is the "lottery" one, one in every case. The Purple is the Special One you can buy. I'll check with them and see when it will be listed and available. It seems odd that Round2's 'site does not have them available for purchase, and AutoWorld's store has the standard kit available, but not the Exclusive kit.
Art Anderson Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 as far as the MCM flyer goes, i hope it works for whatever you wanted it to, but i think it's pretty disappointing. it could have been something had it been a 8x11 sized reprint of the article show or bigger, the way it is in the box, get out your magnifying glass if you want to read it and get anything at all out of the Manx model shown on it. it almost reminds me of those circle track models from a few years back that were supposed to have a "tip" sheet in the box and didn't. honestly, a Manx decal would have been MUCH cooler. i have no interest at all in the Wiktop cardboard thing Actually, the "Wiktop" architecture is that of a former fast-food hamburger chain which, at the time the Manx kit was first issued, was bigger than McDonald's--they being Burger Chef, based out of Indianapolis. Apparently AMT Corporation decided to not bother with licensing from Burger Chef Systems, which themselves went away by 1981. Art
Rob Hall Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Interesting...I remember Burger Chef..had one in New Philadelphia, Ohio that I frequented as a kid, the particular location became a Hardees.. Edited January 8, 2012 by Rob Hall
Chuck Most Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 I keep hearing of those mutliple instruction sheet Round 2 kits... have yet to purchase one myself. Feel kind of cheated.
Art Anderson Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 What you say makes sense and would explain the various colors under the chrome. Although I've seen many injecting molding operations in my work, I was not in the industry itself and I wonder if all plastic kits are cut into one mold. The bodies especially need more than just a two part mold ... they have 4 or more parts with sliding pieces to allow freeing the body from the mold. Since the body is the reason for the color differences it would have much to do why the chrome tree differs in color. It could be just due to using excess colored beads in the chrome tree to balance out all the costs and efficient quantities. It would be interesting to hear from someone with experience in the industry speculate on this. And sorry, Dan. if that includes you .. I'm not doubting what you said. Ordinarily, you would be right about the body tooling, but not on the Manx: This kit body is molded in a simple 2-piece tool, as evidenced by it's being on a parts tree with two other pieces, none of them requiring slide cores. With virtually every full-bodied model car kit ever produced with a one-piece body shell (early Premier kits done in 1953-54 and Ideal Toy Company's 1955-issued screwdriver kits excepted), it takes 6 cores to mold the body shell: One to mold all the upper surfaces of the body shell, one for the right-hand side, one for the left-hand side, one for the front, one for the rear, and the last one being a "male" core which molds all the surfaces of the inside of the body shell. Of these, the front, rear and both side molds are "slide core" tools, so-called because in the process, these literally slide inward to mate up against the upper core, then the mold closes, bringing all 6 cores together tightly, at which point the molten styrene is injected under very high pressure. After the mold's water jacket is injected with cold water, which cools the tooling to the point that the molten styrene solidifies, the mold bases open apart, the four slide cores retract, and ejector pins push the body shell off the inner core mold. But, if you look at the Manx body in the kit, the only parting line there is around the "lip" of the body, which would have been a natural call, seeing as how the Meyers Manx fiberglass bodies were made--simply by laying up resin and chopped glass fiber into a one piece mold, in exactly the same manner as a fiberglass boat hull, or for that matter, any fiberglas bathtub. Actually a very simple process indeed! As for all parts being molded in the same tool base, yes, that is how AMT tooling was cut back in the day--those tool bases are huge, mininum of 2' X 4', and about 3' thick when both halves are mated together. The slide core cavity for the body was part of the very same mold in almost all model car kit tooling. This tool also included the cavity for the chrome parts tree, while clear parts (windshields etc) and clear red parts (taillights) were run on much smaller injection mold presses. Vinyl tires, of course, were run separately, in tool bases as large as I described for the kit itself, each tool having as many as 48 cavities all for the same tire. Hope this explains a bit! (drawn from numerous walks through the production area of AMT Corporation, on East Maple, in Troy MI, 1975-79) Art
skmodelcars Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 I got one of these Thursday night from my LHS and it's one of the metallic red "Kat Kits"! The note enclosed says 1 in 12 are the metallic red "Kat Kit. I'll probably look for one or three to build!
Art Anderson Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 Interesting...I remember Burger Chef..had one in New Philadelphia, Ohio that I frequented as a kid, the particular location became a Hardees.. Burger Chef Systems started in Indianapolis in the early 1960's, and spread rapidly across the eastern US, Rob. By 1970 they had more stores than did McDonald's. but lacked the corporate controls over their franchisees that McDonald's has always excercised (McD's owns every bit of real estate in the US where a McD is located, owns the building, the franchisee being the "owner-operator" of the business, paying rent on the property, plus a percentage of the gross of the restaurant. People may still remember Burger Chef birdhouses that were all over the place in the late 60's to early 70's--those were produced by the guy who owned the first LHS in Greater Lafayette at one time, he closed his store to concentrate on producing those birdhouse kits, which were wood, prepainted and silkscreened in BC colors and lettering. Toward the end, Hardee's took up most of the remaining BC stores, converted them to Hardee's, the rest simply faded away. Hmmm, makes me wish I could go out right now--get a Big Chef, fries and a chocolate shake! Mmmmmmm!!! Art
Eshaver Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Burger Chef Systems started in Indianapolis in the early 1960's, and spread rapidly across the eastern US, Rob. By 1970 they had more stores than did McDonald's. but lacked the corporate controls over their franchisees that McDonald's has always excercised (McD's owns every bit of real estate in the US where a McD is located, owns the building, the franchisee being the "owner-operator" of the business, paying rent on the property, plus a percentage of the gross of the restaurant. People may still remember Burger Chef birdhouses that were all over the place in the late 60's to early 70's--those were produced by the guy who owned the first LHS in Greater Lafayette at one time, he closed his store to concentrate on producing those birdhouse kits, which were wood, prepainted and silkscreened in BC colors and lettering. Toward the end, Hardee's took up most of the remaining BC stores, converted them to Hardee's, the rest simply faded away. Hmmm, makes me wish I could go out right now--get a Big Chef, fries and a chocolate shake! Mmmmmmm!!! Art Art, I'm all with ya . I too remember ole Burger Chief too................ Ed Shaver
Ben Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Any word on when the purple ones will be available from AutoWorld? Does anyone have a red one that they would rather trade for a white one?
RodneyBad Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Picked up a 3rd one today and it is another white. Like looking for the Gold Willy Wonka ticket.
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