allegheny Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Hey guys, Which brand of kit would be best to build a 1964 GTO(stock)? Thanks! Paul
george 53 Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Unless ya got an ORIGINAL AMT kit, problably the next is the Monogram 24th kit, then the Polar Lights kit in 25th scale.
Erik Smith Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 The monogram 1/24 kit is nice - although pretty typical for the era, simplified but separate suspension,etc. It is readily available and cheap too.
Art Anderson Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 The monogram 1/24 kit is nice - although pretty typical for the era, simplified but separate suspension,etc. It is readily available and cheap too. Revell Monogram's kit is of the 2dr "post" sedan, where the Polar Lights version is the hardtop. As for accuracy, Monogram's kit is a bit off proportionally, and much too squarish, boxy. The Polar Lights kit, while a snapper, has a much more accurate body shape to it, and it's 1/25th scale. Art
george 53 Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Well, there ta go Paul. An this is from a gentleman who used to cast , so I kinda think he KNOWNS what he's talkin about. I'd take his word for it.
allegheny Posted October 10, 2011 Author Posted October 10, 2011 Thanks guys for the info, really appreciate it. Now, the hunt begins!
allegheny Posted October 10, 2011 Author Posted October 10, 2011 When you guys talk about the old AMT 1964 GTO, are you talking about the AMT/ERTL Johnny Lightning version? Thanks! Paul
High octane Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 I was building Arnie "The Farmer's" '64 GTO a few years back and used the Monogram kit as I compared it with the Polar Lights kit also and I think that Monogram's was much better. As far as 1/24th & 1/25th, if you put them both side by side you'll see very little difference as far as scale goes.
george 53 Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Paul, The guys are refering to the ORIGINAL AMT release of the 1964 Tempest/LeMas kit/ GTO kit. They were both released but those rascals ARE expensive. If you don't mind the scale differences, you got a nice choice ta start from.
allegheny Posted October 10, 2011 Author Posted October 10, 2011 Thanks George! I think I will get the Monogram/Revell 64 GTO. I do not want to invest the $$$$ for the original issue AMT version, especially if I was to make a mistake! Is this the one to get? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MONOGRAM-1964-PONTIAC-GTO-RED-OLD-1-24-FS-mcm-VINTAGE-MODEL-KIT-/380375376219?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DDLSL%252BSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BIEW%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D380362604681%252B380362604681%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3383126763597682419
highway Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Paul, here are a couple pics of the Revell/Monogram kit from one of it's more recent reissues. I've seen the Polar Lights kit in person, and in my opinion the only way it should have been mentioned was if the title of this thread was "Worst kit to build build a 1964 GTO"!!! EDIT: This is one of the 2 in 1 reissues Dave mentioned, and if you'd like a pic of the box for it and what the other version looks like, let me know. I think I still have the box here somewhere. Edited October 10, 2011 by highway
allegheny Posted October 11, 2011 Author Posted October 11, 2011 Wow! You guys build some great models! Makes me want to buy a "real" one and drive it at the Woodward cruise! Paul
MrObsessive Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) Personally, I preferred the Monogram one over the others............it just seemed more "right" to me. Here's my stillborn '64 convertible that I never finished..........the acetate windows have now warped among other things. I may take it totally apart sometime and redo it. Don't look for that anytime soon though............... Edited October 11, 2011 by MrObsessive
Scale-Master Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I can't imagine anyone looking at the PL GTO and not seeing the banana-esque failure in the shape of the body. The Monogram is my choice, and looks far better to me. You'd have to pay me to build a free PL version...
bandit1 Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 WOW! some really nice GTO'S there guys! hey i want my 64 back!
Wayne Buck Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Oh Boy!! This thread turned into a smorgasbord of awesome looking '64 Goats! My vote goes to the Monogram kit as well. Admittedly, I haven't seen the other two kits in person, but my father and I are Pontiac and Chevy nuts and I think the R/M version looks nice and goes together ESPECIALLY NICE. Here's a molded in red monogram that I built. (I didn't have any trouble with bleed through BTW) (Wish it was at least wearing the GR-RRR license plate in those pics. The motor wasn't even glued in yet! LOL I'll have to take some new shots of her one day...) Bill, that convertible is just BEAUTIFUL!!
allegheny Posted October 11, 2011 Author Posted October 11, 2011 So if I go with the "stock" version with red molded plastic, will I have any issues with "bleed through after painting? The red molded versions are cheaper and more plentiful then the "2n1" versions. Thanks! Paul
Rob Hall Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I think the Monogram '64 is going to be or has been recently reissued recently molded in white.
allegheny Posted October 13, 2011 Author Posted October 13, 2011 This is the GTO I'm going to build my model by: http://ultimategto.com/cgi-bin/showcar.cgi?type=lot&pic=/1964/64_00155_5
RickRollerLT1 Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 Like everyone said, stay away, far away from the Polar Lights/AMT's 64' 'Goat kit (heck, the PL Cornet is far better than that POS!)and get the Revell-Monogram one (due to be rereleased soon under their "Classic Crusers" lineup in white plastic)...Or if you got big bucks to spend, the orginal AMT kit from 1964. The only thing the Polar Lights kit is good for is the interior/seats/dash, chassis, suspension parts, maybe the wheels & tires, and exhaust... to maybe use on the AMT 64-65 kits. But the PL body and engine (worst phonco motor ever imo!) are only destioned to be ether discarded in the trash bin, or used as test parts mules for paint/primer.
Eshaver Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 Hey Round- 2 ya listening .............................................................................................................................................................? Ed Shaver
Jantrix Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 I've also built the Monogram kit and enjoyed it. My only gripe was that the rear quarters were so pinched in the rear that it kept squeezing the chassis further up into the body. I ending up using a piece of carboard folded accordion style into the trunk area to keep things square. I built this when I returned to the hobby in '01.
Junkman Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 So far I have always avoided the Monogram kit for obvious reasons, but it looks so much better in the pics than the AMT. How does it work out scale-wise, when you put it next to - let's say - an AMT '65 Goat?
Art Anderson Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 Like everyone said, stay away, far away from the Polar Lights/AMT's 64' 'Goat kit (heck, the PL Cornet is far better than that POS!)and get the Revell-Monogram one (due to be rereleased soon under their "Classic Crusers" lineup in white plastic)...Or if you got big bucks to spend, the orginal AMT kit from 1964. The only thing the Polar Lights kit is good for is the interior/seats/dash, chassis, suspension parts, maybe the wheels & tires, and exhaust... to maybe use on the AMT 64-65 kits. But the PL body and engine (worst phonco motor ever imo!) are only destioned to be ether discarded in the trash bin, or used as test parts mules for paint/primer. Odd that you would say that. The Polar Lights '64 GTO compares FAR more favorably to reference pics than the Revell Monogram kit. OK, so it's a snapper, so what? Scale and shape wise, it's pretty much right on the money. Same with the original AMT '64--but that one is in mega-bucks territory. Art
Scale-Master Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 Odd that you would say that. The Polar Lights '64 GTO compares FAR more favorably to reference pics than the Revell Monogram kit. OK, so it's a snapper, so what? Scale and shape wise, it's pretty much right on the money. Same with the original AMT '64--but that one is in mega-bucks territory. Art No it is not Art. See the banana shape in the body of the PL attempt? How can you not see that? It is not a trait shared by the real car, or the other kits. It is horribly distorted and nowhere “near the money”. Did you have something to do with this kit? Is that why you are trying to defend it so vigorously?
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