Early Model T?

[Aaronw]

So as far as I can tell there are not any early (Pre-1923?) Model T kits in 1/25. I'm looking at the 1925 kits from AMT and they include what appears to be the early style grill and headlights for use on the hot rods.

I'm thinking it wouldn't be too hard to build a new hood to go with that grill converting the kit to an older style T if those parts are correct.

Am I on the right track here?

[sjordan2]

You'll find several in 1/16.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=1%2F16+ford+model+T&_sacat=0&_sop=10&_odkw=1%2F16model+T&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

[Craig Irwin]

Its more involved than that, but yes, earlier Model T's can be built from the AMT 25 T kit. There are resin parts to do some 1915s.

[Nitro Neil]

Aurora made a 1922 Ford in 1/25

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AURORA-1922-FORD-T-STOCK-STREET-DOUBLE-DUECE-2-COMPLETE-MODELS-/200671634177?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb8f62301

[Modelmartin]

Of all people, Tonka made a 1/25 1914 Touring car. It is actually pretty nice. It came in a scenic diorama kit. I found mine on Ebay. I plan on resin casting copies of it at some point. The Aurora is a 1921 and is almost identical to the AMT kit. Those Ts didn't change too quickly. The thing about the Aurora is that the detail is much nicer and more finely engraved. I prefer it over the AMT. It took me a while but I found a few of them for my stash.

Almost Forgot the Tognotti's T from MPC. It is a 1914 Roadster and can be converted back to stock without a lot of trouble using AMT chassis and engine. I would be happy to supply some resin cast small hoods and radiators.

[Chuck Most]

Andy- you forgot your own Center Door T transkit!

There is also the chopped Jimmy Flintstone version.

[Aaronw]

Thanks, I actually ordered the Couplet and Centerdoor last week. I didn't realize the coupelet was a 1915.

I started doing this, but realized it is the earlier front end.

Edited November 13, 2011 by Aaronw

[Modelmartin]

Aaron,

That rail car is too cool. I will throw some goodies in with your order. I will give you a scrap body so you can use the cowl area on an AMT body to make it.

For the Model T lovers I almost have the Cycle fender version ready to sell. This one uses the 27 T touring for a donor so the Frontenac engine can be used. Actually the 23-25 versions with separate tires will work too.

[Modelmartin]

Andy- you forgot your own Center Door T transkit!

There is also the chopped Jimmy Flintstone version.

And My Coupelet and My Fuel Altered version which I sold at least 3 of!!! Too weird for most people. It is out of production, now. So are the Street rod versions of the 1915 cars. I still have the stock Coupelet and 1920 Center door in production.

[Aaronw]

Aaron,

That rail car is too cool. I will throw some goodies in with your order. I will give you a scrap body so you can use the cowl area on an AMT body to make it.

For the Model T lovers I almost have the Cycle fender version ready to sell. This one uses the 27 T touring for a donor so the Frontenac engine can be used. Actually the 23-25 versions with separate tires will work too.

Awesome, thanks!

The rail speeder is turning out to be more work than I initially thought it would be. When I started it I thought I was just going to be swapping the wheels for flanged rail wheels. As I dig into it, obviously there is more to it. Should be neat when all done though.

[Junkman]

What year 'T' is the Tognotti based on, Andy?

Didn't (don't?) you make a roadster based on that?

[Camshaft]

That Coupelet is super cool, I kind of want one.

[Art Anderson]

What year 'T' is the Tognotti based on, Andy? Didn't (don't?) you make a roadster based on that?

Not Andy, but yes, the Tognotti King T uses a mix of 1914 and 1915 bodywork and sheet metal. Before anyone wonders, that wasn't an unusual thing at Ford, or for that matter, most any other carmaker in those years before WW-I. There was no such thing as a "model year" back then, no annual styling changes--just the "running changes" of new parts being slipped in constantly, for whatever reason. It wasn't at all uncommon for say, 1915 rear fenders to be bolted onto 1914 cars as they became available--of course assuming that they'd fit properly.

Art

[Eshaver]

Aaron, first, Andy Martin's Model T is a real show piece . He did real well in replicating a rare model as in Model type . I Back dated a A M T 2925 into a 1917 model by modifying the windshield header , the top and scratch building a hood and grille .

Now the trailer on back is a modified Horse trailer . I'm doing it to be a Bakery goods delivery . Ed Shaver

[Dave Darby]

I've been a Model T nut since I was knee high to a grasshopper back in the early 60's. A great source of reference material is "Henry's Wonderful Model T" by Floyd Clymer. That said, the radiator for the hot rod version in the AMT 25 T kit is simply a sectioned and chromed setup. The main parts in that kit that would be useful for an earlier (pre-1923) are the chassis and running gear. The fenders, radiator, and hood in that kit could be fudged back to 1917, altho minus the fronts, the fenders could go back to 1915. 1916 was the end of the brass era Ts, so Ed's is really a 1915-16 style. 1917 brought in the steel painted radiator (like the one in the 1925 T kit minus the apron at the bottom. 1914 and earlier Model Ts had a flat, wooden cowl, where the 1915 and 16s had the cowl similar to the newer 1917-25 Ts. (See Ed's T and Andy's resin kits above). The Tognotti T is a rare and pricey kit, but many of the parts showed up later in MPC show rods. (check Dave's Show Rods for more). One more thing, the Tognotti has the 1908 -1914 style fenders, but it has a newer body with 1915 style cowl.

Compare to these 1914s...

See the flat wooden cowls? Notice also the rear fenders are not as curved.

[Modelmartin]

This is exactly what the Tonka kit looks like excep the top is folded down..

[Rob Hall]

Neat...speaking of Tonka Ts, stashed away somewhere, I have 3 from my childhood..about 1:16th scale maybe...a roadster, delivery van, and 3rd bodystyle...made in the mid '70s.

Edited November 14, 2011 by Rob Hall

[Chuck Most]

And My Coupelet and My Fuel Altered version which I sold at least 3 of!!! Too weird for most people. It is out of production, now. So are the Street rod versions of the 1915 cars. I still have the stock Coupelet and 1920 Center door in production.

Forgot all about the Coupelet until now! Sucks it's OOP. Guess that means I'll have to get off my duff and order a center door!

I did have fun with that Jimmy Flintstone body, though-

[Aaronw]

Ed, love the gooseneck T.

Dave, thanks for the book recommendation. I just ordered The Model T, A Centenial History by Robert Casey, but was able to track down the other and have it coming too.