Harry P. Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/05/01/croatia-80000-electric-supercar/?intcmp=features Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Cole Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I'm guessing... because the filthy rich also want to pretend they're "going green"? Let's build more soot-spewing electric plants, to keep all those environmentally friendly electric cars running! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Johnny Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I'm guessing... because the filthy rich also want to pretend they're "going green"? Let's build more soot-spewing electric plants, to keep all those environmentally friendly electric cars running! Honestly Jon, when is the last time you saw a "soot spewing" electric plant??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62rebel Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 well; we do have quite a number of coal-fired plants; the burning of, and mining of, which are potentially highly polluting.... but, coal is relatively cheap, we have quite a reserve of it, and once mined, it's easy to transport..... and, it provides hundreds of thousands with employment throughout the work force. there's no simple answer to electric power until there are solar cells that are both affordable and efficient.... wind power is nearly impossible to implement efficiently because no-one wants the towers nearby... same with nuclear, only more so; nobody wants to live in Springfield. the rich would buy this thing merely to appear ecologically responsible. and fool no one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Johnny Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 The plants are the cleanest they have ever been. There are huge deposits of "clean coal" out west that Clintomn seen fit to make "protected" lands so it couldn't be mined. Maintained the VW of a Professor from Southern Illinois University that was running the "clean coal technology" studies. they developed a scrubber that would bring the pollution down below the government mandated standards big time and the answer to that?? The greens petitioned the government and EPA and got the standards raised even higher. they did this multiple times as they got the scrubber to reach and exceed the EPA limits! Like anything else the tree huggers want taken away they will attack full on every way they can think up, most of the time without a legitimate claim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Anderson Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Electric cars, from the very beginning back around 1900, have almost always been far more expensive than either steam or gasoline internal combustion. That said, early on, it was all about being easy to drive (those rolling "china cabinet" electrics of a century ago appealed to females lacking the upper body strength to hand crank a gasoline engine--bear in mind, it was just about this time of year in 1912 that Cadillac introduced the first practical electric starter for automobiles!), in addition to being virtually silent and of course, completely free of smelly exhaust and the inevitable odor of motor oil. Of course, the proponents of electric cars today tend to see them as the commuter car alternative to gasoline power--fine if you are affluent enough to not only own one, but are a two (or more) car family. On paper, an electric does fit the role of a commuting car for most small and medium-sized cities--probably not so practical if you live in SOCAL, where commutes in and out of say, LA, entail a drive of perhaps 50 miles one-way. That just does not work with the available electric car technology--stretching the known range of a pure electric to the max, and with the relative scarcity of charging stations no matter where one looks! It's a little-noticed fact that even in really good times over recent years, US gasoline consumption is actually down from say, the middle 1990's, due to the much greater fuel efficiency of modern cars (which is precisely why the federal gasoline tax as constituted no longer can begin to cover the maintenance of our highway system, and the same is also true for most states (This has been well documented in the press over the past 4-5 years, but since it's not sensational news, most people never read about it!). Still, it would be fun to have the bucks to afford a Tesla--I've seen a couple of those on the street here--and to hear one screech the tires in otherwise total silence is almost deafening! Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Anderson Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 The plants are the cleanest they have ever been. There are huge deposits of "clean coal" out west that Clintomn seen fit to make "protected" lands so it couldn't be mined. Maintained the VW of a Professor from Southern Illinois University that was running the "clean coal technology" studies. they developed a scrubber that would bring the pollution down below the government mandated standards big time and the answer to that?? The greens petitioned the government and EPA and got the standards raised even higher. they did this multiple times as they got the scrubber to reach and exceed the EPA limits! Like anything else the tree huggers want taken away they will attack full on every way they can think up, most of the time without a legitimate claim! Saw a news clip a couple of years back--of Al Gore giving a speech somewhere. The news camera's zero'd in on former Mr. Vice President's motorcade waiting for him to come out of the hall where he was speaking........a lineup of Chevy Suburbans, all of them happily idling, awaiting Gore's coming out of the building. So much for GREEN, Mr Gore! Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rel14 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Waa Hoo I save $20.00 in gas, and spend a extra $30.00 on my electric bill,, do get the savings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepp Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Gasoline car that nobody can afford... so what's the point? http://wikicars.org/en/Bugatti_Veyron Car that only goes in a straight line for a few seconds that nobody can afford... so what's the point? http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/vintage-speed/anatomy-of-a-top-fuel-dragster What does it matter? This is a model car forum. Typically, what we build is the stuff of fantasies. Sometimes those fantasies get built in 1:1 so who are you to complain about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Cole Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Honestly Jon, when is the last time you saw a "soot spewing" electric plant??? World wide, coal is still in use to produce electricity, though not exclusivly. And "Clean" coal is just a PR lie from their lobby. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil-fuel_power_station Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 The only truly "clean" energy is electricity created by dams, solar or wind (that is, after the dam or windmill is built or after the solar panels are installed). Electricity created in any other way (nuclear, coal-fired plants) produces pollution and hazardous waste. So electric cars may themselves be "clean," but you have to remember how the electricity they use got to the end of the plug... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Saw a news clip a couple of years back--of Al Gore giving a speech somewhere. The news camera's zero'd in on former Mr. Vice President's motorcade waiting for him to come out of the hall where he was speaking........a lineup of Chevy Suburbans, all of them happily idling, awaiting Gore's coming out of the building. So much for GREEN, Mr Gore! Art How do you know they were idling? I thought we were supposed to avoid politics on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scale-Master Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 How do you know they were idling? I thought we were supposed to avoid politics on here. I'm sure if there were people in them, they were idling. Have to power the A/C with the engine... Is it political to point out blatant hypocrisy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 How do you know they were idling? I thought we were supposed to avoid politics on here. They are always running when they are outside waiting , this way they can leave in a matter of seconds to protect whomever the important person is inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 My problem with the electric cars is they still go the same distance on a charge as a 100 year old electric car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 My problem with the electric cars is they still go the same distance on a charge as a 100 year old electric car. That's where cars like the Volt have the advantage, while they don't have the all electric range, that little gasoline generator helps fix that little problem. All electric like that really isn't viable unless you want the ability to brag for having something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmvw guy Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 When they come out in 1/25th scale I hope we can all still afford them. ..LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadillacPat Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 The whole point to being rich is so you never have to think about buying an electric car. Like ZZ Topp says," You can have yours just gimme mine." CadillacPat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) So...what's the point of a Lamborghini Aventador? Or a Fabergé egg? Or a 200-ft yacht? Etc. Edited May 1, 2012 by sjordan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadillacPat Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 So...what's the point of a Lamborghini Aventador? Or a Fabergé egg? Or a 200-ft yacht? Etc. Very simple, Lamborghini-----To drive the heck out of, Faberge Egg------To invest or just to collect, Yacht-------To party on When you can afford them you don't have to have a point, that's the point!!!!!!!! Capitalism, enjoy the heck out of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CadillacPat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 So...what's the point of a Lamborghini Aventador? Etc. I agree, there are mega-buck cars out there that run on gas that are just as impractical. I guess I see electric cars as being a "solution" to the problem of cars that burn gas. Maybe that's because electric cars have been marketed as being practical, sensible alternatives to cars that pollute, and I've bought into the sales pitch. So seeing an electric car that's priced where just about nobody can afford it sort of defeats the purpose of it being a practical alternative to cars that run on gas, and it becomes nothing but a useless automotive exercise (unless, of course, you happen to be in a financial position to drop a million dollars on a car). I guess it's sort of like solar panels that are so expensive to buy and install, that it would take you 20 years worth of electricity savings before you recoup the initial investment and actually begin to start saving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Very simple, Lamborghini-----To drive the heck out of, Faberge Egg------To invest or just to collect, Yacht-------To party on When you can afford them you don't have to have a point, that's the point!!!!!!!! Capitalism, enjoy the heck out of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CadillacPat I have to agree with that, well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-hermit Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 What I wanna know is why can't anybody else make an electric car that can "carry the car a distance of 372 miles on a single charge." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 What I wanna know is why can't anybody else make an electric car that can "carry the car a distance of 372 miles on a single charge." They could. But at what cost? That's the trade-off. Hyper-productive batteries are still way expensive. The technology that's in that car, you're not going to see in a run-of-the-mill Prius. At least not yet. But they're working on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-Machine Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Who killed the electric car? The marketplace. When an electric pickup truck can be charged anywhere in less than ten minutes, and travel about 350 miles on a charge while carrying 1,000 pounds of cargo, I'll buy one. Until then, gasoline- or diesel-powered ones will do just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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