Revell thinking about NASCAR again

[FordRodnKustom]

how?

Besides the already mentioned $$ for advertising the brand, there is also research and engineering support for engine development and wind tunnel time. They do still use their respective manufacturers basic engine block and heads. Purely my opinion and I could be wrong.

[martinfan5]

Besides the already mentioned $$ for advertising the brand, there is also research and engineering support for engine development and wind tunnel time. They do still use their respective manufacturers basic engine block and heads. Purely my opinion and I could be wrong.

I think you covered what I forgot to

Edited July 29, 2012 by martinfan5

[mikemodeler]

Anytime a kit company is thinking about doing a new kit, regardless of the subject or whether one likes it or not, we should support them. Will I buy a new NASCAR kit? No. But,there are several thousands of people who will. To me,it's no different than the Moebius Hornet or Chrysler 300. I have no interest in either one of those kits, but there are many people that do. For the sake of people that do build NASCAR models, I hope Revell does go through with the idea. Now,if we could just coax them into producing a kit of a new pickup....

I am with you 100% on this! I have zero interest in most of the new releases and would not buy a NASCAR kit, bit that doesn't mean there aren't thousands of others who will!

As far as the pickup idea, I would buy some, depending on the make and model. An idea I have had in my mind is that if the kit companies were to offer a kit with several building options- dual wheels, flatbed, pickup bed, dump bed, wrecker bed, utility bed, ambulance bed. Probably pretty expensive but could be interesting to ponder. It would have wide appeal and maybe some of the resin guys could work with them on some of the options.

If an all new kit is too much to ask, what about some of the old tools being fixed up? I find it hard to believe that the old MPC Dodge pickup could not be fixed somehow to be reissued again. The last kit that was offered was in Monster Truck form ( I have one 75% done) and while the hood was modified, the body and basic chassis is there. Some simple work to come up with the stock drivetrain and axles and a hood from the Modelhaus and BANG!

[MAGNUM4342]

Kevin, please forgive me, I was not trying to come of as bashing you, sorry if you took it that way, not my intent

I should have been clearer. Once upon a time the series was open to several different engine displacements. Now thier all 358 c.i. I wholeheartedly agree that alot of guys like myself are ticked that vintage subjects are being ignored. Why shouldn't we be? Don't we deserve to get what we want as well? What's wrong with that? If Revell is going to ask the builders if they want NASCAR subject, they should be prepared to get requests from purists, oldtimers, newbies and all other facets. Those of us who desire 50's, 60's and 1970's era cars are just as deserving as those who want the CARP (word jumble) of the future and current model cars.

Martinfan, we're good. No harm no foul. Check the smiley. ( )

[jjsipes]

I think the AMT COT models would have sold a little bit better if they would have tooled up all cars Dodge Ford Chevy and Toyota instead of only releasing the Chevy in how many different liveries. You ca nonly build so many Nascar Chevies before you get bored and want to build another brand

[2002p51]

Like what?

For starters, neither Ford, Chevy, Dodge or Toyota ( or anyone, for that matter) makes a carbureted engine.

Carburetors are gone in the Cup Series this year, Harry. Still in Nationwide and truck series though. All Cup cars now use a spec EFI system. (More trouble and cost than it was worth if you ask me, but that's a whole 'nother rant!) The engines are designed by and cast by the manufacturers, so they differ in detail. Like some above have said, the 2013 cars will have a little bit more brand identity but that's it, still all the same under the skin. The big deal from the manufacturers is money and/or engineering support. That's why Joe Gibbs racing switched from Chevy to Toyota several years ago, they got a better deal. Penske is going from Dodge to Ford for 2013 for the same reason.

[Joe Handley]

I think the AMT COT models would have sold a little bit better if they would have tooled up all cars Dodge Ford Chevy and Toyota instead of only releasing the Chevy in how many different liveries. You ca nonly build so many Nascar Chevies before you get bored and want to build another brand

The price certainly doesn't help, for $25 you got one of a few paint jobs and only the Impala. Selling it in plain white helps, but I don't know why they didn't try it first.

[martinfan5]

The price certainly doesn't help, for $25 you got one of a few paint jobs and only the Impala. Selling it in plain white helps, but I don't know why they didn't try it first.

Try $33 at my LHS, I just bought one on ebay for a total of $12

[Austin T]

If there were vintage cars introduced or re-introduced I might snap and buy one of those.But the conclusion we have all come to is that you can't please everyone.

[Guest Johnny]

I think that a quality glue kit would be a great addition. The AMT COT is not a fair comparision. I lacks enough detail that at best it is a good foundation to kitbash with ......a Revell/Monogram stock car. Instead of forcing the modeler to undo and redo wouldn't it be nice to have the quality in one kit? Imagine using the same skill that Revell showed in their midget kits making a modern race car.

Would I like drag racing instead.....maybe, but, look at the TV ratings and the fans in the stands. NASCAR is king. It just makes better business sense to tool up what has the greatest market potential. There are more average fans who might be tempted to buy a NASCAR kit than a drag. Do it right, make it a scale replica instead of an unassemblied toy and it might be a good seller. If they do, hopefully Revell won't oversaturate the market like Monogram did previously.

They started out with the snap kit with the idea of adding a full detail glue kit. BUT they could not get enough interest in it to guarantee that it would be financially feasable to do the glue kit!

What they are doing now is trying to feel it out to see if there is enough interest for a modern kit and the numbers just aren't there yet.

I voted for it to try and help it along but can't help but feel a little guilty of saying I was for something I really wouldn't buy.

That could lead to them wasting time and limited resources to tool up a kit only to have it not sell in large enough numbers to make it profitable and in the end cause other kits even more people might want from being concidered or no made because they lost revenue.

[martinfan5]

I really feel that a full detail glue kit will sell a lot better then AMT COT toy

[Chuck Most]

I'm not a huge fan of modern NASCAR, but if they did release the kits and they were even 90% as good as the old Monogram Winston Cup kits, I'd be more than willing to shell out for a few of them. I need one of those Toyota COT V8s for a project or two, and even if you don't build NASCAR models, the kits have tons of nice parts for kitbashing.

[Scuderia]

I think it'd be tough. I'm really torn on this topic which is why I haven't chimed in. On one hand I think it'd be cool to see Revell back, but same time after the last few runs i dunno if i trust them to do it right.

[Dave Van]

A few items to educate. A 2012 NASCAR Cup car has a chassis that has strict tolerances but every chassis manufacture's design is a little different. Why else would a driver get out after a race and say 'this is a new car'??

Engines are DESIGNED and cast by the manufacture or a vendor the manufacture hires. None of the current makes share any parts other than radiators and the such.

All NASCAR Cup engines are Fuel injected not a single carb in sight. It's TBI set up and not direct.....but not a carb.

In 2013 ALL Cup cars will get a makeover and retain more 'stock' look. They will also get unique body sides which is new.

2012 NASCAR Cup sheet metal is the same from the A pillar back. Each make has it's own hood, nose and C pillar window shape.....so no just decals would not work. The grief model companies get for a wheel arch shape being 'off' in a few folks eyes would not compare to Ford decals on a Cup Chevy body!!!!

YES...NASCAR stock car do share parts. The Ford 9 inch has been the rear axle of choice since NASCAR allowed parts swapping. And GM truck arms where the standard rear suspension for years. But they were Ford, GM or Mopar parts.

I for one hope the numbers are there for Revell to do a NASCAR Cup kit. But if they don't here will be TONS of new stuff at iHobby to keep us busy.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Dave Van

[martinfan5]

I think it'd be tough. I'm really torn on this topic which is why I haven't chimed in. On one hand I think it'd be cool to see Revell back, but same time after the last few runs i dunno if i trust them to do it right.

I am with you there, the last run Revell did on were good, but the 2004-5 Monte carlo and the Dodges were not even close, well I think the Dodge was a lot closer then the Monte was.

Dave, thanks for chiming in

[Bad Brad #2]

I am with you there, the last run Revell did on were good, but the 2004-5 Monte carlo and the Dodges were not even close, well I think the Dodge was a lot closer then the Monte was.

Dave, thanks for chiming in

Yeah, if you don't mind a Dodge with a Chevy engine.......

[martinfan5]

Yeah, if you don't mind a Dodge with a Chevy engine.......

It did have Dodge valve covers