Tony T Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Awesome build! Thank you so much for letting us follow along!
Daf57 Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Looks like a great kit, love that red! Thanks for the walkthrough!
charlie8575 Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 The 4-door in the picture is Crest Blue. I've seen a couple of cars in that color- it's a nice blue-gray. I'm betting that picture was taken with the original Kodacolor 64 film, which had incredibly fine grain and superb color saturation. I'm also betting it was not 35mm, which was still a bit rare in the mid-1950s. It was probably 120/220, which produces a higher-resolution photo because of the larger negative area. These builds are coming out very nicely. I'm enjoying watching them. Charlie Larkin
Guest Johnny Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 The 4-door in the picture is Crest Blue. I've seen a couple of cars in that color- it's a nice blue-gray. I'm betting that picture was taken with the original Kodacolor 64 film, which had incredibly fine grain and superb color saturation. I'm also betting it was not 35mm, which was still a bit rare in the mid-1950s. It was probably 120/220, which produces a higher-resolution photo because of the larger negative area. These builds are coming out very nicely. I'm enjoying watching them. Charlie Larkin Maybe from a slide? I know my wife has a lot of old pictures from when her grandpa would have everything put on slides and when made into a photo they come out nearly crystal clear.
AzTom Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 I'm going to have to get one of these. I have a few of the diecast banks Ertl made that I was going to mod but this is so much nicer. This build is really looking great. I did notice that the round band on the rear of the engine should be green, it's part of the engine block.
MJStyline Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 Wouldn't it have to be one of the colors shown on the first post in this thread? Perhaps the silver gray? Certainly not green. http://www.modelcars...opic=64596&st=0 Looks like a shade of blue; I have to dig up my '50 Oldsmobile dealer color/trim book
Tom Kren Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 Len did you have any fit problems with the engine fitting into the engine bay? Mine not fitting walls are to close and hitting manifolds .
charlie8575 Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 Maybe from a slide? I know my wife has a lot of old pictures from when her grandpa would have everything put on slides and when made into a photo they come out nearly crystal clear. Very possible, Johnny. Kodachrome 64 and Kodachrome 25 also had very good color and image quality. Charlie Larkin
Len Carsner Posted October 16, 2012 Author Posted October 16, 2012 Unfortunately, life events have taken precedent over modeling for me these days. Bill has been slaving away to bring this project to its conclusion. Tonight we have a quick up date on his progress. Two views of the first test fitting of the Revell 50 Olds body over the nearly completed interior/chassis etc. We’d recommend using something thin and flat (Bill uses a metal engineer’s scale) to help coax the body down over the interior and open things up just enough to allow the chassis to be moved into place. Once the two-tone paints are thoroughly dry, the rubbing out and polishing can begin. Shown here are just some of the “tools of the trade” we use and recommend. Counter-clockwise: a small bowl of water and a well-used piece of 600 grit wet/dry automotive sand paper; Micro-Gloss white polish; three grades of sand paper, 6K, 8K and 12K; cotton swab, no-oil facial tissue and a piece of soft cotton cloth Work carefully in sequence (600, 6K, 8K, 12K and then apply the white polish) so as not to take too much material away. Better to rub some more than to go through the paint and have to re-shoot things. You could mask-off for painting areas to get a matte black finish but this for us was not one of those times. We use Testors Aircraft Interior black applied with a broad brush. Generally this paint levels out well and when thoroughly dry assumes a somewhat matte finish. Here we carefully brush painted the headliner using Testors Euro Gray to stay with the general shades of gray interior scheme. Once the paint dries we’ll move on to installation of dome lights, window glass and sun visors. Well, like I said, a small update so that everyone knows we're still at it. At this point Bill is nearly done. Me, not so much. But I'm working as hard a sI can to finish soon so we can have the big reveal. Stay with us, the best is yet to come! Thank for looking, Bill and Len
Len Carsner Posted October 25, 2012 Author Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Another week, another update! Bill has his car finished and is relaxing while I work feverishly to complete my car. Good thing this isn't a contest or he'd beat me again! Anyway, here's one last update before the grand finale. It's getting really close! For Lens car he chose a two tone scheme with Tamiya Maroon for the upper color and 1950 Olds Canto Creme for the lower. The creme paint came from Bob's Paint, etc. I hadn't tried his products before so i thought I'd give it a try. At this point the maroon has been sprayed, dried, and covered before airbrushing the lower color. Bob's paint went on beautifully with little to no issues. With the paint dried and the masking removed you get a real feel of the two tone effect. Time to set the body aside and get on with the chassis. To go with the two tone interior I chose contrasting tan-brown colors for the interior. While not prototypically correct, I like it and that's all that matters. Other than our choice of colors and a bit or detailing the chassis of both cars (street and race) look the same, as they should since in this era "stock cars" really were "stock". Just like the chassis both cars engines are virtually identical. The wheels are a tight fit in the tires, so I decided to assemble them first before the whitewall decals went on. I found that assembling the wheel front to the back, then pushing it in from the front and using a dental pick to pull the rear sidewall into place was the easiest method of them assembled. Don't forget to put the axle pin in place when assembling the wheels! Not the best photo, but you'll get the point. Clockwise from the upper left: Tire before inserting the wheel, wheel and tire together, whitewall decal in place, and finally the trim ring and cap. A center emblem is on the decal sheet. At this point Lens chassis is complete, waiting on the body to get its foil, lights, and ornaments. Let go back to Bills car. continued..... Edited October 25, 2012 by Len Carsner
Len Carsner Posted October 25, 2012 Author Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Here Bill is preparing to tape the clear parts into place in preparation for attaching them permanently. The question is always what type of glue to use. We recommend using ONLY white glue since it won’t attack the clear styrene and it cleans up with a moist tissue. Bill also took note of the headliner which (though it’s not seen much once the model is assembled) looks to need a second coat of Euro Gray bottle paint. At this point, Bill used low-tac painter’s tape to temporarily hold the clear parts in place until a fine bead of white glue can be run along the edges of each piece where it touches around each interior window openings. Here are two views of Bill’s 50 Olds body in the process of having the exterior trim treated to an application of BareMetal Chrome foil. Bill says he finds cutting strips to length of BMF close to the width of the surface trim to be foiled to work best for him for this operation. Note here some of the tools and materials Bill suggests for applying kit decals like the ones seen here on the Revell 50 Olds deck lid and hood. We always recommend using Micro Set (1) first and once the decal is positioned, Micro Sol to insure a clean, smooth and level application. Also, Bill has begun attaching the plated emblems front and rear. We recommend attaching those part with Elmer’s glue to avoid damaging smears or smudges that can occur with styrene or super glues. We suggest that prior to applying any race car markings, the entire body be wiped down with a surface cleaner like Fantastik using a no-lotion facial tissue. This procedure will remove any oil and grim from handling and prepare the surface for virtual trouble free decal placement. Note here the tools and supplies recommended for applying decals properly. Bill recommends trimming out each of the required decals as close to the edge of the printed image as possible. He used a small amount of filtered water and some folks also suggest a small drop of liquid household detergent in the soaking solution. Make sure to use reference illustrations from the Revell 50 Olds kit instructions to get the markings positioned correctly. Page 11 shows the No. 87 Bill is building. Please note the direction the car number “speed streaks” are going. Both sides should be pointing to the rear for example. It can be pretty tough finding accurate references for a race car from over sixty years ago. Thank God for the internet! Searching for BUCK BAKER 1950 NASCAR Oldsmobile brought up the two reference photos shown here of what is surely the restored or cloned version of this iconic stocker. The end is rapidly approaching! Stay tuned, with any luck at all the final update will be up in just a couple of days. You won't want to miss it! Thanks for looking, Bill and Len Edited October 25, 2012 by Len Carsner
Agent G Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 I love it! Look close though, the color pics of the real car have the "speed streaks" facing forward on the driver's side. I find that curious, clone car or not. G
tabsscale1 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Has anybody had problems with sink marks on the hood where the hood hinges attache underneath? My hood had some really bad ones that had to be filled
AzTom Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 I love it! Look close though, the color pics of the real car have the "speed streaks" facing forward on the driver's side. I find that curious, clone car or not. G It does look like they put a right side decal on the left side All of the photos I found did not have the streaks. The model is sure looking great.
Fat Brian Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Has anybody had problems with sink marks on the hood where the hood hinges attache underneath? My hood had some really bad ones that had to be filled Yep, mine had them as well. A little white putty and they were gone but it does seem odd to have them on a new kit, but the entire hood is odd since it totally lacks any underside detail.
jjsipes Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Your builds are looking great. I really need to get a couple of these but trying to support my so-called local hobby shops but they still have not gotten them in stock yet. Gonna check again today.
Gluhead Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 Has anybody had problems with sink marks on the hood where the hood hinges attache underneath? My hood had some really bad ones that had to be filled Yeah, seems they all do. That was the first problem I spotted on mine, so I had my brother check his just in case and the same for his. They're slight on ours, though...did you end up with deep ones?
bryan_m Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 nice work guys, these two builds are really shaping up! thanks for sharing them bryan
Guest Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Beautiful work guys. I use 5 minute epoxy for windows and chrome emblems, and use white cotton gloves for body handling during all of the final detailing and assembly work.
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